Published July 28, 2007


The Generation Game


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How big is your piece of the pie?

After ten years of a boom and on the eve of a downturn, Irish society has been turned on its head by a Generation War. The clear winners have been the middle-aged Jagger Generation. They have been enormously enriched by the property boom, creating a new class of Accidental Millionaires. The younger generation – the cash-strapped Jugglers – will be badly exposed as the credit wave recedes.

The Bono Boomers, wedged between the winners and losers, are not about to grow up just because the economy turns down. They’ve too many important dates to keep, like ‘designer camping’ at the Electric Picnic. The Bono Boomers are Ireland’s first ‘permalescents’ – a permanently adolescent generation, too young to be old, too old to be hip.

When the Botox Economy is laid bare and the financial filler of others people’s money becomes evident, this Generation Game will play itself out as the Jaggers, Jugglers and Bono Boomers struggle to maintain their slice of a diminished pie.

However, the slow-down gives us the opportunity to take stock. There are plenty of reasons to be optimistic. Taking a trip around the globe from Shanghai to New York, from Latin America to Central Europe, we can learn from history and appreciate that Ireland has a unique economic resource: our Global Tribe. If we exploit the demographic potential of the Diaspora, we can re-invigorate the nation.

The twenty-first century gives us the opportunity to see the island of Ireland as the cradle of a global nation which extends worldwide and is gelled together by the shared experience of the Tribe.

The prosperity of future Irish generations is based on harnessing the collective power of past generations. This is the global Generation Game.

 

Extracts Available Online:

What is the Generation Game?

The Jack Charlton Theory of Economics

 

The Generation Game TV Series Online:

Episode 1 · Episode 2 · Episode 3

 

 

‘Funny, irreverent, bitingly accurate and even-handed’
The Irish Times

‘Full of attitude’
Village Magazine

‘The most definitive guide of Ireland today. Reed it and weep’
Sunday Tribune

‘Brilliant and funny’
The Guardian

‘Spot on. A deft dissection of social mores’
The Irish Independent


  1. Paul

    the Jaggers and the Jugglers!!!, Maccer will ya cut the waffle!!!

  2. beautfan

    Looking forward to this. Didn’t read you last one but saw the programme -
    always beeter to read the book before the film comes out. Will be buying.

  3. Fred Hanna

    “…updates on it’s publication…” (Par. 2)

    Lynne Truss detailed many problems with “it’s ” vs. “its”.

    Get with the correct grammar.

  4. Cathal Dunne

    Who should we offer the citizenship rights to? How far back up the family tree should we go? Would those that left in the 70s and 80s but didn’t return be only eligible or would first-generationers have it too or should I just buy the book and find out?

  5. webmaster

    Thanks for the grammar watch Fred. Would you believe I even have her book? Either I should re-read it or just not work late at night. Anyway its corrected. :)

    @Cathal: David is on holidays until the end of August. He will be replying to questions then, but I’m sure he will recommend buying the book!

  6. Cathal Dunne

    Thanks for the response webmaster. The Generation Game sounds intriguing. The Pope’s Children was quite a good read so I am looking forward to reading more of David’s thoughts and ramblings.

  7. David Jones

    Is David addicted to buzz-words in some off-shoot of tourette’s?

    Where will the commentariat-using-nonsense-terms end?

  8. Noreen

    Cathal, Anyone Irish who left in the 70s or 80s still has Irish citizenship (unless they’ve revoked it, but Ireland recognises dual citizenship so that would be most unusual), and their children are also automatically Irish citizens from the minute they’re born. Grandchildren of Irish emigrants can become citizens through applying.

  9. Cathal Dunne

    Thank you Noreen, that’s very illuminating what you said. I didn’t know that grandchildren of emigrants could still claim citizenship, you learn something new everyday!

  10. Paul

    Love your work David, but let me echo the posted remarks about your incessant labelling of every subgroup in Ireland! It’s a gimmicky tactic to grab media attention. Gimmicks are for getting noticed, but you GOT noticed. we BOUGHT your book and watched the show – you HAVE our attention now, and you have much value to add to the national debate. So please lose the labels ……..

    Good luck with the new book ;-)

  11. webmaster

    Hi

    The book is due for release next week.
    That means out in shops in Dublin Tues-Wed and the rest of the country by the end of the week.

  12. webmaster

    PS: Check back Monday for a preview of the first chapter

  13. Cathal Dunne

    Can’t wait to read it. Can’t say I share the same views David has of the property market, but enjoy reading his perspective.

  14. neil c

    can you post a link to an online retailer that will ship abroad ?

    amazon is saying 6 weeks ….

    /nc

  15. Well, it was released today in Galway, weighing in at a hefty €25 for the hardbacker.

  16. Stephen

    I enjoyed The Pope’s Children and look forward to reading the Generation Game. Every society needs a conscience and a sober look at Ireland as it really is. It will be interesting to be part of Irish society over the next 30 years as the comedown from the Celtic tiger progresses. Having grown up in the 80s and 90s the book resonated with me. The popes children echoes sentiments in ‘bowling alone’ and ‘nologo’ and ‘taming the tiger’.

  17. Raymond Darling

    Looking forward to the Generation Game( No Not bruces version ;-) ) My mother always reckons if you have the intel to correct grammer you understood the word and got the point! Let u no what i tink of the program! regards Raymond

  18. Brendan

    Ideology, politics and journalism, which luxuriate in failure, are impotent in the face of hope and joy.

    – P. J. O’Rourke

  19. Mick

    Hi David:

    Like most of the diaspora I have watched Ireland’s self important rise with equal measures of both wonder and disbelief. To anyone that was so inclined it wasn’t difficult to punch a hole in Irelands trumpeted export figures over the last 10 years etc etc. Some of the Software export figures I have read are laughable. Ireland it was widely reported was the 2nd largest software development hub on the planet !! They were and still are currently the function of an the American manufacturing off-shore tax haven. Burning CD’s is not software development Bertie. Little or nothing to do with the intellectual property of the nation.

    As an individual that returns to Ireland 4-5 times a year I have some news from the diaspora that does not make for comfortable reading. In the UK I have been reasonably lucky to create and manage one of the country’s largest internet companies. But I have always dreamed about returning home. Unfortunately Ireland has become a highly undesirable location for many reasons. Property insanity for one, but much more importantly, Ireland has lost it’s soul. It’s got none of it’s original attractions as far as my friends are concerned. The pubs are empty, the class rooms are overcrowded, the streets are full of rowdy immigrants and the ordinary working class appear to have given up any hope that it will return to it’s former equilibrium. I don’t doubt that Killiney is an immigrant free haven of creches and oyster bars but the rest of the country is in post bubble shock.

    As an emigrant myself, I remember and still experience racism in the UK….but that’s cool, we were never welcome. Ever. Not in the States, not anywhere. So it grieves me when I listen to the liberal Jagger set speaking on behalf of the diaspora and how Ireland should embrace massive uncontrolled immigration. It’s time to stop. It’s time to think and assess. It’s time to make the tough decisions before they are made for us. I never cease to be shocked by the control that the vested interests have on the media pipe in Ireland. Estate agents appear to run the editorial at the Indo and Times. The only thing that has changed recently is the fact that the evidence is now undeniable. So fair play to you David that you played your part in administering the economic smelling salts. But I do not share your optimism for the country at all. In a way I think you are trying to balance a difficult message, which is understandable. But there is not a lot of love out here the the ol’ country. A nation of beggars on horseback. Ireland doesn’t have the key IPR. All the smart IPR left long ago. In ireland a plumber with two labourers on his books is considered an entrepreneur. In America you don’t enter that club till you’ve off loaded your first venture backed firm for $300M. We’ve got our our semantics conveniently skewed as usual. Because there’s nothing the Irish love more than the Irish…

  20. Dervla

    Dear David,
    I hope you can give time take on board the following perspective and logic to talk surrounding r and d , knowledge based economics and what I agree with yo upon -reduced spending on cars.
    I think the country individuals ,institutions, businesses and
    proffessional entities need an epicurean examination of their offers and spending.
    I hope the generational mileui of my age group (23), will participate into inquiring about prospects,its effects on social empathy.
    With our arguably introspective economic talk may the premise for our economic outlook be a participation in
    the global biosciences sector-outcomes being likely disease eradication this century, economic waves to surf along the way.
    Let us hold ourselves accountable for spending, encourage public investment into such endeavours, cut back on cars ( there’ll probably be biofuel laws and taxes coming in anyway)
    In the meantime ,let’s hold institutions,universities financially accountable and transparent to everyone including assembly line workers,who graft at present
    and probably will continue somewhere else in the future.
    With our existing diaspora right here ,lets be honest and sensitive to all labour in how we pursue r and d.
    I am politically partisan when i propose and consider the above as worthwhile considerations-pragmatism calls.
    Let’s decentralize dublin based humanities degrees to athlone, it would free up that kind of ‘labour’,cost,
    make room for a fraternal approach to sustainable
    prosperity, characterised by biomedical r and d.It would seem a platform for a nation taxed to participate in global
    ambition to necessarily improve our unnecessarily
    predisposed cancer susceptibility-a lot to do with lifestyle
    in increasingly demanding social contracts and assumption ie: work life balance.
    What’s the point of anyone working without facing
    these truths facing us ahead, for anybody in any aspect
    of the diaspora.

  21. kevinh

    I’m not quite clear what is meant by the demographic potential of the diaspora. Does it mean encouraging the diaspora to come and live in Ireland, or does it mean using the diaspora as a resource to buy our goods and promote our interests? If it is the first, then we’ve been there before without much success. Prior to onset of sustained net migration which began in 1996 (and which is ongoing) there was only one brief period, since the Famine, during which immigration exceeded emigration. That was in the 1970s. Annual net migration averaged around 13,000 people for the decade. This net migration was made up virtually exclusively of former emigrants returning to Ireland primarily from the UK with their, often British-born, children. These immigrants were very close to Ireland in the sense that they were either Irish-born returnees or the immediate descendants of Irish-born parents. All were Irish citizens. Yet, these diasporans did not find it easy fitting in to Irish society. Irish people in Great Britain, as one of your earlier commentators noted, have never been made particularly welcome; although, it’s slightly better now than in the 1970s when many chose the option to return home, encouraged to do so by the Irish government. What is depressing however is that the hostility to the Irish on the part of the British host society has been replicated on the part of Irish host society towards those diasporans who speak with a British accent; in particular, their claims to be Irish are ridiculed. The same applies to Irish-Americans, Argentinian-Irish, the Antipodean Irish, African-Irish etc. In 1995 President Mary Robinson made a speech to both Houses of the Oireachtas titled, ‘Cherishing the Diaspora’. The contempt and disdain with which this was greeted by many of our TDs spoke volumes. Irish people in Ireland are friendly, warm and welcoming – to a point. However, they guard jealously their understandings of Irishness which, as it is lived and expressed by the SWIC (Settled White Irish Catholic) indigenous ethnic majority, is not an open and inclusive identity. It cannot accommodate even the first generation of the diaspora. Reaching out to the diaspora has been tried before, it wasn’t very successful then and it’s not likely to be any more successful now.

  22. Donnelly

    Ah now! I love the buzz words. Its just a creative use of words that effectively communicate numerous factors in the sum of one or two words. The ‘jaggers’ one gives me a chuckle. I picture my ma on her golfing holiday in Africa with an alienated expression on her face about being associated with Mick Jagger of all people. And I’m a Bono Boomer in a smelly designer tent at electric picnic! (Tee hee hee). Ah sure there was even matching cow print camping chairs to go with the cow print tents. And we aint ever growing up! We’ll be carousing about salsa dancing with hot sweats and fuzzy dyed hair looking farb.

    yay to the buzz words!

  23. I read your last book “The Pope’s Children” on a flight to the US when it came back. It was fine, overly long and slightly snide in it’s categorisations of people. I started your new book on the way to the US last week. I read 20 pages and put it away. I didn’t like the snide descriptions of groups of people. The turn off for me, is that I have read your articles for years in the Business Post, and actually, used to buy it just for that. I feel now that you are an “uno” – you have one song to sing – the “I didn’t Do It” kid from The Simpsons.

    You are obviously a smart guy, and are thoughtful and insightful on the TV. I think you have a lot to offer outside of your “economy crash” riff.

    Personally, I’m a lot more interested in the contradictions of Ireland. We don’t celebrate our independence even though we wanted it for 800 years. We love rogues even if it’s us they’re fucking over. The public service is a huge voting block, riven by incompetence but also in almost complete control of the country. This is where the Celtic Tiger unraveled, in my opinion.

    Why is the Irish music industry such as basket case?

    I do really appreciate you original and independent voice, but I do think you can offer more.

    I know I sound a little harsh, but I think that’s maybe I think what you’re doing really matters.

    Thanks,

    David (davidos360@gmail.com)

  24. Fergal Treanor

    Ireland — Agenda for the New Century

    What lies ahead for Ireland? How can we capitalise on the success of the Celtic Tiger? What is our answer to the re-emergence of Asian powers? How will we ensure that our economy and culture assert themselves in the twenty-first century? A new generation of Irish thinkers has recently emerged, advancing audacious and radical proposals on these questions.

    In his groundbreaking study of our future: „The Best is yet to Come“, Marc Coleman has argued that Ireland must emulate Israel if it wishes to succeed. He praises the rapid growth of Israel’s population, saying what unites our two nations is a huge international Diaspora, close ties to America and the fact that each has a traumatic history. Granting that: “The consequences for the displaced Palestinian people are severe and have to be noted”, he points out that any further mention of the Palestinian question would be “beyond the scope” of his work.

    Like Israel, he argues, Ireland must revive its “unique identity”, and bring about “the resurrection of one of Europe’s most ancient cultures”. Demography plays a role here too; at Israeli density levels, Ireland’s population would be no less than thirty-eight million souls. Though “racialism” is off his agenda, Coleman writes: “cultural purity is a different matter”, and identifies the Irish language as the core of our “unique identity”. (This contrasts with David McWilliams, who wants citizenship rights based on blood, as illustrated by the case of the Mullingar Argentineans mentioned on his website.)

    These are crucial considerations which must be acted upon if they are to become a reality. I therefore propose the following measures, which will give Celtic Ireland its rightful place at the centre of World attention:

    1. Capital of Ireland to be moved to Knock.
    This will underscore our enormous cultural distance from all things British, bring us closer to America, shift our focus towards the ancient Celtic homelands of the noble Gael, and create new synergies between the lay and ecclesiastical branches of government. All business of state shall be conducted in Irish.

    2. Tallest building in the world to be constructed in our new capital.
    Create a new wonder of the world, a lofty tower no less than one Irish mile high. Taiwan has done it, Dubai is doing it, why can’t we? Such a building would symbolise our new belief in ourselves and promote the new Irish architecture. Set atop this great structure shall be an effigy of a great Irishman, such as The Virgin Mary, James Larkin or James Connolly. Needless the say, the entire building would be as Gaelige.

    3. Increase our population to unprecedented levels.
    By 2050, the population of Ireland should be larger than that of Germany and France combined. Immigration to be supported with free Irish lessons for all, as demanded by immigrant platform iMeasc. Each arriving family to be given an “Éire starter pack”, including Solpadine, the keys to a BMW 7 series automobile (though the automobile itself will be on tick), the Collected Stories of Sean O’Faolain, and a camán. Higher birth rates to be encouraged, with grants for large families, and the title “Hero Mother of the Republic” for women who bear more than ten sons without suffering a ruptured aneurysm of the splenic artery. At twelve million Irishmen, we will have equalled Denmark for population density. At thirty-eight million, Israel. Why stop there? At Bangladeshi population density levels, there would be no less than a hundred million culturally aware Celts in Éire, asserting ourselves in ever more fluent Irish. Should we become as dense as our close friends the Vatican, we will swell up to one hundred and thirty million. A return to the principles of reproduction espoused by this invaluable ally would certainly aid our cause.

    4. Compassion towards the “Unionist” community.
    The troubled question of how to treat those loyal to the British Crown after the inevitable reunification of our Gaelic homeland remains a difficult one. Coleman and McWilliams differ on the question of blood purity; here, I suggest leniency towards those not of Celtic stock. Though racially and genetically alien to us, “Unionists” can be treated as human beings, and, where willing, reeducated in questions of national identity. Having mastered Gaelic and accepted the “cultural purity” of the New Ireland, they may be accepted as fully-fledged members of the community. For those who cannot or will not accept this necessity, repatriation to Scotland is the best thing. Nobody wants a “Two-statelet” solution. While the consequences for the displaced “Unionist” people will be severe and have to be noted, they are beyond the scope of this article.

    5. Secession from EU, armed if necessary
    Finally, we must break free of the colonial yoke being imposed on us by the faceless Eurocrats in Brussels. The State Organs of the Republic of Ireland have a great tradition of opposing technocracy tooth and nail; now is the time to act on our convictions and bid farewell to the backward continent of Europe. Having taken the humiliation of the Upper-Saxon Schilling for nearly forty years, are we now to pay money just so some Slavic upstarts from God knows where can outpace our economy with the help of our hard-earned punts? Why should we pay for our own downfall? As the only country out of twenty-seven to hold a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, we have shown that like Israel, we are the only democracy in our region. Indeed, considering the military strengths of Belgium and Poland, it must be said that we too are in a “rough neighbourhood”. In case of military resistance to our fight for freedom, we must arm ourselves now, so that Ireland’s future soldiers may not merely outnumber our continental foes, but outgun them as well. Our friend and Ally the United States, always a champion of Irish freedom, may be of help to us in this. They have armed Israel, why not Ireland too?

    These are radical measures, but necessary if Ireland is to compete with India and China as a 21st century global power. We hope, we pray, that our dreams will be realised. We must work hard, breed hard, and keep faith. With the help of God and his holy mother, Celtic Ireland shall be a shining example to the 21st century world. Glóir agus Shona dhúinn, beidh amárach níos fearr ar fad.

  25. Dear David,

    I have just read and enjoyed greatly your latest book, The Generation Game, which my sister, who lives in Dublin, sent me for Christmas. I am in London.

    As someone who lives, works and has my being among the North London Jewish community, I was intrigued by your suggestion that, like Israel, Ireland has in its Diaspora community a unique economic asset which, unlike Israel, it fails to utilise for the greater good of the country.

    The suggestion seems to be that if Ireland offered citizenship rights, in the form of passports, to all its exiles this would, as in Israel, create an international global network of contacts invaluable to Irish business interests, provide the country with a supply of desperately needed skilled workers, obviate the need to import foreign workers who threaten to undermine its cultural identity and turn the country into an internationally sought after talent hub enabling us to stay ahead of the economic games for decades to come.

    I see what you are saying. This is innovative and creative and as someone who admires the Jewish community, I agree there is much we can learn from them. But there are significant differences which you ignore.

    Contrary to popular belief, Israeli citizenship and passports are not the automatic right of the Jewish Diaspora. Only those who were born in Israel, or born outside of Israel to a parent born in Israel, or to a parent who acquired citizenship through immigration, are entitled to an Israeli passport.

    Members of the Jewish Diaspora can apply to make Aliyah (immigrate to Israel). But according to the Law of Return only those who can prove that they had at least one Jewish grandfather or Jewish grandmother can do so and even then they are only granted a full Israeli passport after at least one, but usually two, years of residency in Israel. Please see http://www.israelexperts.com/visa.html to verify.

    Furthermore, Israeli citizens who live outside the State of Israel are not allowed vote. Only those who are resident in Israel on election day have this right. The rational for this is that that only those who live within the boundaries of the state (and not merely those who pay taxes) have the right to select the legislators who make the laws which govern their lives. They have an obvious immediate vested interest in this in a way that a Diaspora or expatiate community, which has invested its life-interests elsewhere, cannot.

    Thus Irish policy which grants automatic passport rights to those born in Ireland, or to those with a parent born in Ireland, or to those with a grandparent born in Ireland is far more liberal and accommodating than Israeli policy. But as in the state of Israel, Irish citizens who live abroad may not vote in Irish elections and for exactly the same reasons.

    Granting passports to those who could trace an Irish ancestor as far back as the famine is a reckless and irresponsible suggestion. As you yourself point out, there are already some 70 million people around the world who claim Irish ancestry. Would you seriously suggest that that all of them be granted passports, and therefore the right to live and vote in Ireland? Israel has a population of 6 million people and an Diaspora of 6 million people. If the entire Jewish community moved to Israel, the population of the country would double. Ireland has a population of 4 million (5 if you count Northern Ireland) and a Diaspora of 70 million. The country could not cope if even a fraction of that number decided to move to Ireland.

    Having said that, you idea of implementing an Israeli type Birthright/Homeland programme in Ireland is ingenious. Children of exiles coming to Ireland for a few weeks each summer, immersion courses for our American, British, Australian, Canadian and Argentinean cousins, seeing the beauty of our country, learning a few words of the language, our history, summer camp type adventure treks, singing our songs and a video recording of the whole thing to take to the folks back home – brilliant. It would, as you say, reinforce their sense of Irishness and ensure a perpetual renewal of the world wide Irish Tribe.

    But would it solve Ireland’s employment problem? Our need for skilled workers, perhaps. But those who come from foreign counties come to do the work the Irish will no longer do. And of course the irony is that those who come are the ambitious, the upwardly mobile and the achievers. They may do the work the Irish will not do, but their children will not, and so the whole cycle of the need for immigrants must start all over again. This has been the British experience. No matter how many immigrants come, more will always be needed to do the menial tasks as the off spring of the first generation move up the social ladder.

    The solution. No, it’s not immigration which, as you rightly point out, has the potential in a small country like ours to undermine our national identity. Why not instead a simple Waldon like National Civic Service whereby all young adults on reaching age 18 are required to do one or two years National Civic Service, not unlike National Service but non-military, doing the jobs currently undertaken by immigrants? Dressed in attractive, but non-military uniforms, granted free public transport, paid a flat rate wage, given special privileges, earning a GI Bill type education scholarship for every National Civic Service year put in, and perhaps participating in some of the fun activities organised for our overseas cousins on the Homeland programme with the potential for reciprocal exchanges in their countries, this could be presented as a very desirable and exciting opportunity for our young people.

    As with the Homeland programme which guarantees a perpetual renewal of the world wide Irish Tribe, even in the face of our own declining emigration, this would ensure an everlasting supply of key workers in essential but low grade jobs without destroying the character and culture of the country by importing into it an unending stream of people from overseas with no natural affinity for Ireland.

    Food for thought.

    Pat McGoldrick

  26. David Mc Williams

    Hi Pat, thanks for the comments. Although the differences with the Jewish experience are there for all to see, there are still crucial similarities. This is an important iniative and one which I’m glad to report the present government is quite excited by. So let’s watch this space. Best David

  27. Patricia Killeen

    Dear David,

    I had the pleasure of hearing you speak in the Irish College and as I’m passionately interested in the changes that have taken place in Ireland, the life style, mentality etc. since the Celtic Tiger, it was a particularly enjoyable and relevant evening for me.

    On that occasion I mentioned to you that I have various TV projects in the pipeline, including a series of documentaries on subjects relating to this unique period in Irish.

    I would be very interested in setting up Irish-French co-productions. I am currently working with a French author and a French production company (www.purpleprod.fr). The producer has excellent contacts with ‘Arte ‘and has previously worked on several of their ‘soirées thematiques’. We have started presenting the first of the documentaries in the series to various contacts and ‘Planete’, the documentary channel, has agreed to buy it once ‘finished’ and ‘Tourisme Ireland’ has agreed to pay for a recce for 2 or 3 people to go to Ireland to film.

    We also have new concepts for :
    - a reality show set in Ireland
    - a cross cultural game show
    - humoristic learn French show

    I would really appreciate any advice or any pointers you could give me and as I mentioned in a previous mail, I would be delighted to go into more detail re any of these projects to a private e-mail address.

    Once again I was delighted to hear you speak and thoroughly enjoyed reading the Pope’s children and am about to start the Generation Game.

    All the best and a very happy St. Patrick’s day to you and your family!

    > Patricia Killeen (Paris)
    > tel: +33(0) 672496379

  28. Ruffled

    David

    Your description of workplace bullying is superb on Pages 136 to 142 in chapter Debt collectors’ ball under headings
    The other face of globalisation
    Exclusion
    Ventilation
    The character assassination
    Execution

    Have you had a look at the statistics and payouts of the Employment Appeals Tribunal ?

    This type of thing was alive and well during the economic boom years.

    How much have these statistics contributed to attracting muli-nationals to invest here ?

    Regards
    Ruffled

  29. John Paul

    Right, so I read the two books, and as you can see from above I am one of the Pope’s children. A couple of points for you then Mr. Williams:

    Firstly, just out of curiosity, what car do you drive? According to yourself Mercs and BMW’s are for Jaggers, Mazda’s, Mitsubishi’s, and a couple of small hatchbacks are for the granny’s who leave the kids off at the creche’s, Scandanavian cars, or indeed anything Scandanavian, are out, as are Breakfast Roll man 4 x 4′s, and Mondeo’s are ‘middle-England’. So presumably you didn’t mention your own car in there. Are you a French-Car man yourself? Or Italian? … a sturdy Fiat maybe?

    Secondly, while I enjoyed the books – particularly the Generation Game – and got a lot out of them, I still didn’t find myself in there anywhere. I emphathise with the HiCo’s to a certain extent but they drive me nuts – I’m well familiar (sorry, … very familiar) with that music snobbery which you mention, and the accompanying wooden bracelets on the wrists, the wind-pipes at the front door – yeah, I’ve met a lot of those types. On the other hand, I went to school with a lot of lads who turned into Decklanders, who like the DIY and who go to holiday’s on some Portuguese, or Spanish island – and I never saw myself in those people.

    But, you know, there are a lot of us who fall in the middle of these stereotypes – who like to travel and not to holiday, but who shop in Aldi or Lidl for fresh fruit and veg., not because of anything against farmer markets, but because its cheaper, (and there are no bargains at farmers markets anyway), who don’t do yoga but who exercise a lot, (and not in a gym) and most importantly of all, who haven’t entered the property market as a Juggler, but who are renting patiently … what of us then?

  30. Prozac….

    Prozac….

  31. Hi David,

    Long time no comment. I have been drunk on the feed of the land, only to sober up
    to a better educated unemployed work force than myself. I am now 24 and have few friends left in Ireland now. Most live in the UK or OZ and enjoy doing so. Since 2006 I have lived in relative poverty and never regained the income I earned in that year. I now live with the electric picnic goers whom are single, renting and earn in one year what my mid twenty friends and I earn in 3.
    You might say I shouldn’t live with them then and you’d probably be right but we seem to get on.
    I don’t live in Dublin and never have but the effect of the downturn hit me two years ago. I guess the moaning isn’t going to help this country but being a proud Irish man not used to this lake of opportunity I find myself writing out plans to escape to London every week.
    I totally agree with your present outlook even though I disagreed with some of your thoughts in the past. Logic advice might say everyone has to do what is right for them but if we live in this global economy it should offer hope for whom?
    For the electric picnic entrepreneurs? Who’ll have fellow concert goer investors? Who’ll pay a fine minimum wage I’m sure! I hope guys like you are asked for solutions by the Government for the best way forward for Ireland and people who know most get together and keep our 3rd level educated in Ireland.
    I watched one to one on RTE the other night to see UCD President talk about 4th level, I believe in Life Long Learning but unless you have front line work experience that comes with a job, deadlines, pay rewards etc… I think it demonises an already college educated population (and says to us between the lines) find work outside of Ireland chumps here’s a one-way a plane ticket.

  32. [...] turn nasty. David has already correctly identified the cause of downfall of the Fatherland in The Generation Game, it's a generation war, the Jagger generation kills off the Juggler generation in in Ireland. I [...]

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