December 5, 2017

Northern Ireland and the Trip Advisor Index of Economic Vibrancy

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When I was a boy I never went to a restaurant with my parents. On very special occasions we might go to a hotel grill room. Restaurants were for other people, of a different caste. Restaurants signified not just wealth or commercial status; a more adventurous palate indicated a subtle form of worldly sophistication.

 

Back then, appreciating the aromatic delights of ginger facilitated your entry to rarefied strata. Not anymore. But while restaurants may have lost some of their social cachet, they still reveal, sociologically, something about a place.

 

So, let me introduce a new indicator of economic development, the TripAdvisor index of economic vibrancy. This measures the number of restaurants reviewed on TripAdvisor in any town. Restaurants capture economic dynamism, disposable income, demography, and social vibrancy, all of which, when added to hard numbers, help give a sense of a place.

 

Simon Coveney’s recent remark that he would like to see a united Ireland in his lifetime prompted me to compare the TripAdvisor indices for the Republic and Northern Ireland. If we are talking about a united Ireland, we should know what we are dealing with.

 

So, before we talk restaurants, let’s talk people.

 

Ironically, despite the fact that Ireland’s future is framed in demographics, demographics are rarely actually examined. Without data, we just have opinions; with data, we have forecasts.

 

Data from the 2011 census in of Northern Ireland show the Protestant population in the North is falling more quickly than most appreciate. The Catholic population is doing the opposite. One striking number is the comparison, by religion, of the very oldest cohort in Northern Ireland with the very youngest.

 

The Catholic population of children, as a percentage of the total, has nearly doubled in 90 years while the Protestant population has practically halved.

 

In the over-90s the religious split is 70 per cent Protestant and 28 per cent Catholic. There are just over 10,000 people over 90 in the North. Children of the 1920s, they are the first generation born in the newly created Northern Ireland, and the religious split in this age group demonstrates the demographics that underpinned partition.

 

Now look at the population in Northern Ireland, from the same census, of children under five. There are 147,000 under-fives, and this age group is 48 per cent Catholic and 37 per cent Protestant.

 

So, between the births of these two groups, 90 years apart, the Catholic population of children, as a percentage of the total, has nearly doubled while the Protestant population has practically halved.

 

Northern Ireland Population

 

Every politician needs to be aware of these facts when considering Brexit and the future relationships on this island. They help us to forecast the political future of the North using numbers rather than opinions or slogans. (For the sake of transparency, let me declare that my Protestant family in Belfast were split down the middle, half voting for Brexit, the other half to remain. Christmas dinner at the in-laws’ should be interesting.)

 

Extrapolating from these figures, I calculate that Catholics will become the absolute majority in Northern Ireland around 2036, and this majority will only strengthen from then on. That’s less than 20 years away. The Belfast Agreement was signed 20 years ago, and it seems like only yesterday.

 

What does all this mean? It means changes are coming, and coming quickly. Could Coveney be right about a united Ireland? Maybe.

 

But could the Republic absorb the North economically? To answer this, we have to understand that the two economies are very different. The union with Britain has been an economic calamity for Northern Ireland. All the people have suffered, Catholic and Protestant, unionist and nationalist.

 

In 1920, 80 per cent of the industrial output of the entire island came from the three counties around Belfast. Belfast was the biggest city in Ireland in 1911, larger than Dublin, and was home to Ireland’s innovation and technology.

 

At partition, the North was industrial and rich, the South agricultural and poor. Fast-forward to now, and the contrast couldn’t be greater. The collapse of the Northern Ireland economy compared with that of the Republic has been unprecedented. East and West Germany come to mind.

 

Economically, the Union has enfeebled the North while independence has enriched the South – particularly since the peace process. Commercially, there was a huge peace dividend, but it went south.

 

The Republic’s economy is four times larger, generated by a work force that is only two and a half times bigger. The Republic’s industrial output is today 10 times that of the North. Exports from the Republic are 17 times greater than those from Northern Ireland, and average income per head in the Republic, at €39,873, dwarfs the €23,700 across the Border.

 

Immigration is a traditional indicator of economic vitality. In the Republic, one in six people are immigrants, the corresponding figure for the North is one in a hundred.

 

Dublin is three times bigger than Belfast, far more cosmopolitan, and home to hundreds of international companies.

 

It would still be a huge challenge to the Republic’s economy to absorb the North – and many Southerners mightn’t want to if asked.

 

The differences aren’t just economic; they are cultural, not only in the sense of flags and commemorations but also socio-culturally.

 

And this is where the TripAdvisor index comes in, revealing that the North is another country in a different sense. Take Kilkenny and Armagh, a similar-sized Northern town with city status. TripAdvisor has reviews of 176 restaurants in Kilkenny but of just 43 in Armagh. The entry for Coleraine has only 58, for Antrim just 49.

 

This tells its own story of small-business activity, how we socialise, how we spend money, and how society is structured. The North is different. Demographics are leading to a changed North, but Coveney’s dream of a united Ireland might not be the end point. Some Northern Catholics may want to remain in the Union, which ironically could be more attractive if the Catholic population were in the majority, because they’d have the power without having to pay for it.

 

Also, many people in the Republic might baulk at the unification bill. But the demographic patterns pose the most significant and immediate challenge for unionism, because, within a generation, democratic politics in the North will come down to whether unionism can persuade nationalism to keep Northern Ireland intact.

 

Now that is a tall order.

 


    • Deco

      The GDP statistic in both RoI and NI is highly questionable. Due to two absurd variations in transfer accounting.

      But the article is in The Irish Times – accuracy is secondary to presentation.

  1. Truthist

    Here is an even more meaningful indicator of matters in common to all on this island I daresay ;
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    FOR HOMOSEXUAL KICKS + SATANISM + STATE-CRAFT + GEO-POLITICS

    IT DEMONSTRATES :

    NORTH + SOUTH Collusion

    IRISH STATE + NORTH EAST OF IRELAND + BRITAIN Collusion

    CATHOLIC & PROTESTANT LITTLE BOYS RAPED & MIND-CONDITIONED BY :
    BRITISH ROYALS ;
    incl.
    Earl Lord Mountbatten [ Founder of CIA, Last Vice Roy of India, Admiral of the UK Navy Fleet, & so much more
    Sir Anthony Blunt ; 1/2 Brother of the King of England, The 5th Man [ 6th Man being the leader Victor Rothschild ; Thus, how USSR got the Nuke Know-How ]
    UNIONIST-LOYALIST DEATH-SQUAD MEMBERS
    MI5 & MI6 SPOOKS ; incl. Head of MI6
    SENIOR BRITISH POLITICIANS ; incl. Prime Minister Edward Heath
    JIMMY SAVILE ; Very likely
    ANGLO-IRISH GENTRY OF IRISHSTATE & NORTH EAST OF IRELAND
    SENIOR IRISH STATE POLITICOS
    BENT IRISH GUARDS ? ; Very likely
    CAPTAIN NAIRAC ? ; I believe so
    FAMOUS SHOWBIZ MALES
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    inter alia
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    Ewe think Sinn Fein remiss in not pursuing this whole issue ?
    Points to Sinn Fein being ultimately rejected by Nationalists.
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    What are Simon Coveney’s thoughts on this whole scene ?
    And, Varadar’s ?
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    http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/12/international-network-whistleblower-kerr.html
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    Anglo-Irish vice ring. https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2017/10/not-just-ted-heath-british-establishment-paedophilia-and-its-links-to-ireland/

  2. Original-Ed

    Who in their right mind would want to it on – the two tribes can never integrate. The unionist side being descendants of border reevers, who were by nature semi-feral, will always remain ghettoised. Even those who upped and left northern Ireland for the US in previous centuries ended up running ahead of authority and hiding out in the Appalachian Mountains. Marching on the 12th there, they became known by a distinctive name.
    Then there’s the KKK connection – it goes on and on, all equates to trouble

    • Truthist

      Border reevers raiding from the Lowlands of Scotland into the North of England ;
      Stealing cattle.
      England got rid of their reever / raider problem by giving Irish plantations to ‘em.

      • The raiding was in both directions depending on the local politics and economics. The raider families lived across border lines that constantly moved north and south.

        “Border reivers were raiders along the Anglo-Scottish border from the late 13th century to the beginning of the 17th century. Their ranks consisted of both Scottish and English families, and they raided the entire Border country without regard to their victims’ nationality.
        Border Reivers – Wikipedia
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers

      • The colonists (or “British tenants”) were required to be English-speaking, Protestant, and loyal to the king. … The Scottish colonists were mostly Presbyterian and the English mostly members of the Church of England. The Plantation of Ulster was the biggest of the Plantations of Ireland.
        Plantation of Ulster – Wikipedia
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster

        • Cont….

          Continued migration from Scotland to Ulster[edit]
          Most of the Scottish planters came from southwest Scotland, but many also came from the unstable regions along the border with England. The plan was that moving Borderers (see Border Reivers) to Ireland (particularly to County Fermanagh)[citation needed] would both solve the Border problem and tie down Ulster. This was of particular concern to James VI of Scotland when he became King of England, since he knew Scottish instability could jeopardise his chances of ruling both kingdoms effectively.

          Another wave of Scottish immigration to Ulster took place in the 1690s, when tens of thousands of Scots fled a famine (1696–1698) in the border region of Scotland. It was at this point that Scottish Presbyterians became the majority community in the province. Whereas in the 1660s, they made up some 20% of Ulster’s population (though 60% of its British population) by 1720 they were an absolute majority in Ulster.[63]

    • yadayada

      KKK connection. Dream on. That was Dixie. The ulster Presbyterians were largely in the northern states.

      • Truthist

        Ur KKK rebuttal essentially absolving the Raiders / Reivers > Ulster-Scots Planters > Ulster-Scotch of being connected to KKK has some merit in that the majority of the folks involved in exploiting the slave scene & this associated with KKK in the beginning were not of our grumpy Theologian brethren.
        .
        That u get aggrieved about Slavery in the USA & the slavery interests KKK,I do so hope that u have a primitive fridge.
        The evidence is all found in their own encyclopedia ;
        A great scholarly work it is so it is 8-)
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        Sincerely Yours,

        Truthist
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        EXTRACT ;
        From 1710 to 1775, over 200,000 people emigrated from Ulster to the original thirteen American colonies. The largest numbers went to Pennsylvania. From that base some went south into Virginia, the Carolinas and across the South, with a large concentration in the Appalachian region. Others headed west to western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and the Midwest.[25]

        Transatlantic flows were halted by the American Revolution, but resumed after 1783, with total of 100,000 arriving in America between 1783 and 1812. By that point few were young servants and more were mature craftsmen, and they settled in industrial centers, including Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and New York, where many became skilled workers, foremen and entrepreneurs as the Industrial Revolution took off in the U.S.[citation needed] Another half million came to America 1815 to 1845; another 900,000 came in 1851-99.[citation needed] That religion decisively shaped Scotch-Irish culture.[26]

        According to the Harvard Encyclopedia of American Ethnic Groups, there were 400,000 U.S. residents of Irish birth or ancestry in 1790 and half of this group was descended from Ulster, and half from the other three provinces of Ireland.[27]

        A separate migration brought many to Canada, where they are most numerous in rural Ontario and Nova Scotia.
        …………………………………………..

        ANOTHER EXCERPT ;
        Geographical distribution

        Finding the coast already heavily settled, most groups of settlers from the north of Ireland moved into the “western mountains”, where they populated the Appalachian regions and the Ohio Valley. Others settled in northern New England, The Carolinas, Georgia and north-central Nova Scotia.[citation needed]

        In the United States Census, 2000, 4.3 million Americans (1.5% of the U.S. population) claimed Scotch-Irish ancestry.[citation needed]
        Areas with greatest proportion of reported Scotch-Irish ancestry

        The author Jim Webb suggests that the true number of people with some Scotch-Irish heritage in the United States is in the region of 27 million.[69]

        The states with the most Scotch-Irish populations:[70]

        Texas – 287,393 (1.1%)
        North Carolina – 274,149 (2.9%)
        California – 247,530 (0.7%)
        Florida – 170,880 (0.9%)
        Pennsylvania – 163,836 (1.3%)
        Tennessee – 153,073 (2.4%)
        Virginia – 140,769 (1.8%)
        Georgia – 124,186 (1.3%)
        Ohio – 123,572 (1.1%)
        South Carolina – 113,008 (2.4%)

        The states with the top percentages of Scotch-Irish:

        North Carolina (2.9%)
        South Carolina, Tennessee (2.4%)
        West Virginia (2.1%)
        Montana, Virginia (1.8%)
        Maine (1.7%)
        Alabama, Mississippi (1.6%)
        Kentucky, Oregon, Wyoming (1.5%)
        ……………………………………..

        YET ANOTHER EXCERPT ;
        IMPORTANT FOR TO EXPLAIN THAT MOST DESCENDANTS “SOUTH OF DIXIE” ARE NOW OF OTHER THAN PROTESTANT RELIGIONS

        Religion

        Initially the Scotch-Irish immigrants to North America in the 18th century were defined in part by their Presbyterianism.[71] Many of the settlers in the Plantation of Ulster had been from dissenting/non-conformist religious groups which professed a strident[citation needed] Calvinism. These included mainly Lowland Scot Presbyterians, but also English Puritans and Quakers, French Huguenots and German Palatines. These Calvinist groups mingled freely in church matters, and religious belief was more important than nationality, as these groups aligned themselves against both their Catholic Irish and Anglican English neighbors.[72]

        After their arrival in the New World, the predominantly Presbyterian Scotch-Irish began to move further into the mountainous back-country of Virginia and the Carolinas. The establishment of many settlements in the remote back-country put a strain on the ability of the Presbyterian Church to meet the new demand for qualified, college-educated clergy. Religious groups such as the Baptists and Methodists had no higher education requirement for their clergy to be ordained, and these groups readily provided ministers to meet the demand of the growing Scotch-Irish settlements.[73] By about 1810, Baptist and Methodist churches were in the majority, and the descendants of the Scotch-Irish today remain predominantly Baptist or Methodist.[74] Vann (2007) shows the Scotch-Irish played a major role in defining the Bible Belt in the Upper South in the 18th century. He emphasizes the high educational standards they sought, their “geotheological thought worlds” brought from the old country, and their political independence that was transferred to frontier religion.[75]
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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans

        • Truthist

          Typo > Clarification ;
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          IMPORTANT FOR TO EXPLAIN THAT MOST DESCENDANTS “SOUTH OF DIXIE” ARE NOW OF PROTESTANT RELIGIONS OTHER THAN PRESBYTERIAN
          e.g.s
          Baptist
          Methodist
          Evangelical

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          As a curious fact and to compare, a list of the US states by percentage of Polish Americans (emigration starting from 1585; btw – the Poles established their colony in the US 12 years before the Pilgrims; and they organised the first strike in the US – as experts in naval industry – in 1619 to protest their disenfranchisement in the New World):

          01. Wisconsin 9.65%
          02. Michigan 9.59% – Mr Trump, in his own admission, won the election thanks to Polish votes in those 2 states
          03. Connecticut 8.85%
          04. Illinois 8.13%
          05. New Jersey 7.35%
          06. Pennsylvania 7.28%
          07. Massachusetts 5.76%
          08. Delaware 5.55%
          09. Vermont 5.29%
          10. New York 5.24%
          11. Minnesota 5.21%
          12. Rhode Island 4.58%
          13. Ohio 4.28%
          14. New Hampshire 4.20%
          15. Nebraska 3.80%
          16. Maryland 3.61%
          17. North Dakota 3.07%
          18. Florida 2.91%
          19. Indiana 2.83%
          20. Arizona 2.79%
          21. Colorado 2.77%
          22. Nevada 2.53%
          23. Maine 2.34%
          24. Alaska 2.29%
          25. Montana 2.29%
          26. West Virginia 2.07%
          27. Washington 2.06%
          28. Virginia 2.00%
          29. Missouri 1.93%
          30. Wyoming 1.86%
          31. Oregon 1.77%
          32. South Dakota 1.75%
          33. Kansas 1.70%
          34. District of Columbia 1.70%
          35. Idaho 1.65%
          36. California 1.50%
          37. North Carolina 1.46%
          38. New Mexico 1.35%
          39. South Carolina 1.35%
          40. Iowa 1.28%
          41. Georgia 1.15%
          42. Texas 1.15%
          43. Tennessee 1.11%
          44. Hawaii 1.03%
          45. Oklahoma 0.97%
          46. Utah 0.96%
          47. Kentucky 0.95%
          48. Arkansas 0.88%
          49. Alabama 0.69%
          50. Mississippi 0.64%
          51. Louisiana 0.58%

          Also little known is the fact that a century ago, Ford built his power based on skilled Polish workers, who were doing the most advanced jobs.
          Historically, Polish-Americans have assimilated very quickly to American society. Between 1940 and 1960, only 20 percent of the children of Polish-American ethnic leaders spoke Polish regularly, compared to 50 percent for Ukrainians. This led to a sad fact that language proficiency in Polish is rare in Polish-Americans, as 91.3% speak “English only” (but then again, I reckon that 0% of Irish-Americans born and bred in the US retained Irish accent).

          Contrary to the “eastern European cheap labour” myth, Polish-Americans have over 20% higher average income than average Americans (this is similar as the Irish Americans – while Pennsylvania Germans have average income; the richest ethnic group are, unlike everyone thinks, not the Jews, but Indian Americans; also interesting is that Latvian Americans have higher incomes than British Americans), and 50% more of them have higher education.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Couldn’t resist adding one more statistic – Irish are the fourth most frequently married ethnic group in the US (5%) – other eastern Europeans 8%, Italians 10%. English only 1%. The most frequently married ethnic group by the Polish Americans were German Americans (17%) – shocking behaviour ;-).

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Irish are the fourth most frequently married ethnic group in the US – by the Poles.
            The famous conductor Leopold Stokowski (in pop-culture known from Disney’s Fantasia) was Irish-Polish.

  3. yadayada

    I believe this is the fifth or sixth time his drum has been banged. With all this brexit, you’d think he might have something else to write about.

    Hardly statistically robust. Why do Protestants live into their nineties more often than Catholics? They do, actually.
    Who emigrates?
    Catholic immigrants such as Portuguese and poles are included with indigenous Catholics.

    The north was richer for the first 70 years. That’s ignored for some reason.

    Most importantly, the Irish Catholic is heading towards overall minority status on an all island basis.

    There’s a new world coming and this is yesterday’s row.

  4. yadayada

    I believe this is the fifth or sixth time his drum has been banged. With all this brexit, you’d think he might have something else to write about.

    Hardly statistically robust. Why do Protestants live into their nineties more often than Catholics? They do, actually.
    Who emigrates?
    Catholic immigrants such as Portuguese and poles are included with indigenous Catholics.

    The north was richer for the first 70 years. That’s ignored for some reason.

    Most importantly, the Irish Catholic is heading towards overall minority status on an all island basis.

    There’s a new world coming.

    • Truthist

      Very good points.
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      2nd issue of ur post is the better for omission of ;
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      “… this is yesterday’s row”
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      What a pity we never had the open + honest row about religion.
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      After all, ultimately, every problem is a spiritual problem.

  5. yadayada

    And that’s twice I’ve banged that drum. If anyone knows how to delete a post, please do it.

  6. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    And that’s it? With all the dramatic events that are taking place in the north of Ireland right now – I mean Brexit, DUP, hard-border, single market, the regulatory alignment, and all other legal, economic, political and geopolitical issues resulting from the collapse of the May-Varadkar talks last night – that’s all that the Author and the venerable Commentators have to say about this week’s political developments in the North?!
    I thought that I’ll find out from yous what the nearest legal future of NI (and the future of both Ms May and Conservative-DUP coalition) will be :-( – with contrasting discussions and detailed analysis of politics in the north.

    Honestly, is the northern politics a bit like their football team – that no one is following it closely?!

    • McCawber

      You are looking too hard.
      The answer lies in the following question.
      Who has the power to effect the final solution.
      Answer the politicians on the mainland.
      We know they want rid so it’s all about timing and opportunity.
      The only obstacle is the Republic’s unwillingness to play ball.
      The snake/s in the grass is/are the EU.
      The EU want to keep Ireland in servitude to them.
      What better way to achieve that than a united (disunited it would be) Ireland.
      Simon Coveney is either a fool or playing to the gallery if he says he wants to see a united Ireland.

  7. Adelaide

    Last year I was back in Malmo, Sweden, a short visit, having been a regular visitor to the city in the early 90′s, and I had to keep reminding myself that the Malmo city of my memory was indeed the one and same place, am I in Islamabad or Malmo? The transformation was beyond, well, words. One people had replaced another people. Muslims. Malmo Muslims, who I believe are now the city’s majority population, who according to my Swedish old friends, never integrate, have disdain for Swedish culture and law, and feel themselves to be superior to the native infidel Swedes. My old friends all fear, privately, that this will end in a bloodbath of some kind, because it’s them against us, not us against them, so a civil war or something, but that ominous something will, inevitably, happen.

    On the plane back, the thought popped into my head, is this not what Unionism is? And since then, for the love of me, I despise Unionists as much as I despise those Malmo Muslims for bloodying what was once good.

    • Truthist

      Leading advocate & policy maker & organiser of ethnic cleansing of Swedes in Sweden ;
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      Google results for string ;
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      Barbara Spectre
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      https://www.google.com/search?dcr=0&source=hp&ei=Jm0nWuKOAcG_0QTq_JPACw&q=Barbara+Spectre&oq=Barbara+Spectre&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.1904.9276.0.10226.16.15.0.1.1.0.223.2558.0j13j1.14.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.15.2573…46j0i131k1j0i46k1j0i10k1.0.NY0dg9HvYLk

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        Speaking of the latest arrivals to Scandinavia – this is an authentic boxing match between a mocking “Dane” (Peace Be Upon Him ;-) and a Pole:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CA2EXYCI0o

        Btw, it’s been scientifically showed that an average IQ in the areas from which the “Dane” arrived is around 80 – and it shows.

        • Truthist

          CONUNDRUMS
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          Average IQ is Denmark in process of quickly approaching 80.
          Yet, the notion dumb blonds is a myth, … & racist.
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          But, I know exactly what u mean by “Dane”.
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          Friend of mine who is both polymath + polyglot + very shrewd says ;
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          Arabs have in his estimation the highest IQ ; Or at least, 1 of the very highest.
          Arab Muslims are fine people in their own Muslim countries.
          Arab Muslims when they are in non-Muslim country go absolutely crazy ;
          They go licentious
          They exhibit low IQ.
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          Sheikh Imrhan Hossein has declared ;
          The Muslims do not belong in Europe.
          They should return to the Sahel, & the Sahara, & the Mahgreb, & the Arabian lands.
          There they must attend to agriculture so as to revitalise their lands.
          This is also to avoid being in the theatre of WW3 ; Europe.
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          ……………………………………
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          The degenerate Arabs & Africans behave so because they have been trained to do so by their 8-) helpers prior to entering Europe, or indeed in Europe [ Ref. The special country foreign helpers greeting the so-called Refugees at coast of Greek Islands ; "Iz the Iago Phoenician / Venetian [ Phoenicia --> Venice ] ?” ; Ref. Othello by Shakespeare

          .

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “Arabs have in his estimation the highest IQ ; Or at least, 1 of the very highest.” – yea, in his estimation – but his estimation is worth nothing – there have been very exhaustive studies of the average IQ of people in different countries (not Arabs who left but those who live in their countries), and there are virtually no studies that would confirm his estimation, which to me looks like a way to cure his inferiority complex. They have higher IQ than people from sub-Saharan regions all right, but much lower than Europeans – and btw, contrary to what you say, studies of identical twins brought up in different families (one privileged, one pathological) show that the IQ levels don’t change much when moved to a different country.

            “Arab Muslims are fine people in their own Muslim countries.” – so why, since Islam started (and even before, if you compare ancient Persia and ancient Greece), they didn’t manage to build any decent civilisation? Almost all Muslim history is one of poverty, civil wars, invasions of the West, brutality, cruelty to women and theft? – with a short period of enlightenment after getting in touch with the Greek culture.

            These Muslim countries don’t produce anything, never did, and if it wasn’t for oil, they would look like Somalia. The most sophisticated of them, Lebanon, benefited hugely from being part of the Mediterranean – and that oasis – that was more akin to Greece than Muslim countries – was destroyed when Leftist, pan-Arabist and Muslim Lebanese groups formed an alliance with the Palestinians and brought down Lebanon to the jungle level.

          • Truthist

            My friend was very interested in IQ Tests
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            incl.
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            Mr. Hubbard of Church of Scientology
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            He commented that Hubbard a very clever man.
            Not that he approved of him.
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            My friend says that IQ tests are flawed because they cannot measure for people who think in abstractions.
            Or perhaps I heard that wrongly ;
            i.e.
            They only measure for people who think in abstractions.
            But, I think he claimed that they do not measure for people who think in abstractions.
            Thinking in abstractions is necessary for Computer Science.
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            Also, IQ tests deemed Cassius Clay / Mohammad Ali to be stupid.
            So, that is a great indictment against IQ tests ;
            At least the ones that CC / MA was subject to.
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            Also, IQ tests can be mastered in advance by training.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “He commented that Hubbard a very clever man.
            Not that he approved of him.” – yes, sometimes people with high IQ are evil. It doesn’t happen very often, but it does happen.

            “My friend says that IQ tests are flawed because they cannot measure for people who think in abstractions.
            Or perhaps I heard that wrongly ;” – yes, you heard it wrongly – they mainly measure the ability to abstract thinking.
            Also, I’d rather have a discussion based on some studies than “my friend says”.

            Muslims are dumber than Europeans becasue Islam advocates and practices incest.

            Here are some teasers for you to listen:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x-tYmyJSVo

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL_ykHluTrI

            “Also, IQ tests deemed Cassius Clay / Mohammad Ali to be stupid.” – there are different kinds of intelligence; Clay/Ali had very high kinetic intelligence.

            I don’t have time to enter a discussion on Ali’s intelligence, but I reckon your friend took that information from Daniel Seligman’s 1992 book “A Question of Intelligence”, or repeated it after someone who took it from that book. What he doesn’t know is that Ali’s IQ was 10 pc higher than an average IQ of boxers from his social and racial background. Compared to top chess players, he might have been “stupid”; compared to his fellow boxers from a black criminal background, he certainly was not; compared to him, some Mensa members are stupid kinetically (apparently there are some people with very high IQ who cannot open the envelope or make tea – I repeat it after a Discovery program, so I don’t know how true that is, but it well might be).

            Does this “Danish” Muslim boxer who mocked the Polish boxer and got knocked out in a few seconds strike you as intelligent ;-)?

            “So, that is a great indictment against IQ tests” – no, it’s not, because IQ tests measure abstract thinking and not kinetic or emotional intelligence.

            “Also, IQ tests can be mastered in advance by training.” – yes, but not by much: like I said, IQ differences between twins with training and with no training only differ by a few pc.
            My last measured IQ result was 131 (I’ve only done it in order to become a member of the High IQ Society in order to improve my job prospects 10 years ago) and I doubt it v e r y much that I could bring it up to, say, 150, no matter what training I would get).
            I’d say that whether you had a proper rest or not affects the test a lot more than a special IQ training.
            Btw, the mankind got dumber since Victorian times:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QACfJoGf8g

    • terence patrick hewett

      I remember the Malmo of 1959: it was a beautiful place: no longer.

      • coldblow

        I was one year old in 1959. I remember the Malmo of 1981 and of a year or two later. I read a review of Bruce Chatwin’s In Patagonia in Punch (I think) at the time which said that Chatwin could make a Sunday morning stroll through Malmo or West Bromwich sound interesting. And indeed it was quiet and dull but civilized. I took the train to Lund, a few miles away, and was wondering where all these young Americans had come from. They got off in Lund too but when I asked some the direction to Ulrkedal (where my friend from university was living) they just laughed. He explained later that they were all Swedish students practising their English and they thought I was another one trying to trick them that I was really an American (a popular practical joke). Malmo had quite a good football team in those days.

        There weren’t many foreigners there in those days, or they weren’t very evident. Those who were there were not absorbed into society. You nearly had to book an appointment to drop in on your own relations. I asked my mate why he would nearly put his foot in the door when calling on friends unexpectedly and he said that if he didn’t he might not speak to anyone from one end of the week to the next.

        You might find Desmond Fennell’s The Turning Point – My Sweden Year interesting. He was there round about 1960 or 1961. (A couple of years before the real watershed in England which Hitchens places as 1964 while Booker is more persuasive with 1963.) Fennell remembers these attractive, affluent young people planning their shiny, rational Utopia (perhaps lounging on a lake side) and I hope they are pleased by the results of their lucubrations because nobody else is.

        Their Irish equivalents (David’s wretched Jagger generation (“They won, and they were right”) and those that followed) were not so organized, and probably (even) dimmer and less informed (and possibly uglier) and they took longer to get their act together, Paddy Last-style, but are making up on lost time. Yay!

        • coldblow

          No, I think it was “They were right and they won”, implying causality.

        • coldblow

          Also, I remember a stern female border official asking me and another friend, after we stepped off the flygbat, if we had plans to stay in the country and warning us to forget it if we had. This was both presumptious and redundant because I had just got a place on a teacher training course in the London Institute of Education and I was quite sure, thanks, that I didn’t want to live there, even though I had just arrived. England in those days, for all its faults, wasn’t quite yet the kind of country you would be planning to abandon.

          That was before everyone lost their reason.

  8. Truthist

    More border stuff.

    Referring to more than the headline victim.
    Hetero-male aspect no doubt.
    Females likely involved as facilitators with governance of institutions

    And, the high ranking homosexual orgy network — without boys … hmm ! — involving very senior politicians stretches all the way deep down South.

    Upon such gatherings is State-Craft — Irish State + NEOI vis-a-vis Britain & EU & NATO practised.
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    https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2017/11/boiling-over/

    • Truthist

      This played automatically for me after Hitchens ;
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agnAwYH3nW0
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      Note the spokesperson for Irish Exporters referred to chemicals [ which includes Pharmaceuticals in her context ] as `1st of her list of exports to “proudly” inform the Unionists-Loyalists & Mailand UK & International audience of.
      Yes, the #1 export in G…DOMESTIC…P terms ;
      And, the Chemical-Pharmaceutical plants are here mainly for access to abundant clean water & the very cheap license to POLLUTE.
      Most of ‘em are way down South ; Cork.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        That’s a very good discussion in that link.
        There was a point made in it when someone suggested that the DUP are bluffing that they’d rather bring down the British government than budge. I wonder if they do; we’ll find out soon. My feeling is that they are not bluffing. Btw, it’s really a laugh of the history how they became a driving force in negotiating that post-Brexit deal, exposing Ms May as really weak (in case someone had any doubts) – considering that (something which is often forgotten) their position doesn’t even represent all unionists (only 70%), let alone all the British.

        On the other hand, the consequences of making a NI deal without DUP are frightening (danger to the Good Friday Agreement).
        It’s a stalemate for both the Taoiseach and PM May (but especially for her), isn’t it?

        How would have PM Thatcher dealt with the DUP? Reading a description of her meeting with Mr Ian Paisley in NI in Paisley’s exhaustive biography imbued me with an impression that meeting him she was half bored, half vexed, but not intimidated in this way or the other (Mr Paisley tried to talk her to withdraw the peace deal with ROI and she said “I’ll stand by the agreement”, followed by Mr Paisley’s long hectoring speech, finished with her banging the table and saying “I’ll stand by the agreement”; this has shocked Mr Paisley so much that him and his pals returned that night to her residence with what they called “The Ulster Ultimatum”, but they didn’t manage to hand it down to her because she… didn’t let them inside).
        Of course, Mr Paisley mellowed a lot since his near-death experience; I wonder if his successors mellowed too.
        Hmm… DUP bringing down the UK’s government and replacing it with what? With Jeremy Corbyn?! Jeremy Corbyn would listen to precisely zero of their demands, so what’s in it for them? Because they calculate, do they? They don’t just act emotionally when they give their statements?

      • Truthist

        I think that the next gambit for the grumpy Presbyterian theologians is to form an Independent Country up in Very North East of Ireland [ VNEOI ] consisting only of grumpy Presbyterian theologians.
        But, of course when it comes to homosexual orgies there will be no borders.
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        I surprised that u not refer to how effective Paisley was as a negotiater [ if that is the correct term ] ;
        More like “a giver of an offer that one cannot refuse”.
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        Victor of that eponymous clan lording it over us all was the Boss of Margaret Thatcher the Actress.
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        EXCERPT from Link given above & given again below ;
        The threat to ‘destroy’ a whistle-blower

        The Reverend Ian Paisley, who served as First Minister of Northern Ireland (NI ), 2007-2008, was aware of the sexual abuse of boys which took place at Kincora Boys Home during the 1970s. Paisley learnt about it from Valerie Shaw, who served as secretary of the ‘missionary council’ of his church, on 28 October 1973.

        Shaw denounced Paisley at a press conference in 1982: “I approached Dr Paisley on at least seven occasions”, she said. “I asked him time and time again what he intended to do about this. My concern all along was very much for the fact that there were young boys under the threat of this man’s corruption”.

        The man she was referring to was William McGrath, the ‘Housefather’ at Kincora, and a long-time associate of Paisley before they fell out in the 1970s. Some of the RUC officers who investigated Kincora came to refer to him as ‘The Beast’. What has now emerged is that Paisley also participated in the cover-up of the scandal in the early 1980s. Many of the residents at Kincora were raped by McGrath, Joseph Mains and Raymond Semple, all of whom were convicted in December 1981. Others got away. These included Paisley’s former bodyguard, John Dunlop McKeague, a sadistic Loyalist paramilitary serial killer. Another was Pastor Willie Mullan, an Evangelical friend of Paisley. Paisley conceded that Valerie Shaw had informed him about McGrath’s reign of terror, although not that he worked at Kincora. “Yes, she did say – she made accusations against Mr McGrath – and she based these on the evidence of Mr ‘X’. When I met Mr ‘X’, he would not meet Mr McGrath and I of course did the only thing I could do: I put (sic) Mr McGrath from taking part in an Orange [Order] service in my church. He wasn’t a member of my church but I took that discipline immediately; and I regret Miss Shaw didn’t go to police”.
        Ian Paisley

        Shaw, however, had gone to the RUC but had recieved no help.

        Shaw also informed two senior figures at the Church who warned her Paisley would “destroy” her if she persisted in her campaign.

        Shaw’s efforts to engage Paisley lasted a year and a half, after which she left his church in disgust.

        Belying the distance Paisley alleged he placed between himself and McGrath, Paisley went on to officiate at the wedding of McGrath’s daughter, Elizabeth, on 22 January 1976. It should be stressed that Ian Paisley was not a child abuser. However, his actions were motivated by other factors, none of which can have been benign.
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        ANOTHER EXCERPT ;
        Paisley throws his weight about at the Cumberland Hotel

        One evening Kerr was at the bell hops’ station at the Cumberland Hotel when a colleague from the hotel’s café strolled across and told him someone was looking for him. The visitor turned out to be Ian Paisley. Kerr’s recollection of what would unfold is vivid and sharp: Paisley was seated on his own at a table “near a glass area” and was “wearing a suit with a hat that was placed on the table”. He also “carried a newspaper” which he “placed on the table”. A pair of men sat adjacent to him “in professional dress”. While Kerr recognised Paisley, he did not know the others. They would not address him at any stage during the encounter that ensued. “They created space between themselves and others”. As Kerr recalls it: “Paisley spoke with them; they were in earshot of our conversation. I was unable to discern if they spoke in an English accent. I do know that they were accompanying Paisley because they joined him after our conversation was complete”.

        Paisley asked Kerr “to be seated after I was speaking with him standing up”. At the start “of the conversation I did not feel intimidated, yet as the meeting continued, I did begin to feel uneasy”, Kerr recalls.

        Paisley knew he had been at Kincora and instructed him that if he was questioned by the police, he was not to “mention anything about Englishmen at Kincora”. Kerr was dumbfounded and responded “What?” Paisley repeated the instruction and added that he was “not [to] speak of other events that occurred in Belfast”.

        “I nodded my head. No verbal communication was made”. The encounter only lasted about ten minutes. Paisley left with the two men. “I then went back to the bell station slightly disturbed and I did not respond to another bell boy’s question of the encounter”.

        Kerr’s impression of the other men was that they had behaved “normally [and] they didn’t appear to be threatening”. Initially he had not been frightened by them as “they did not speak to me. It wasn’t until later that evening after the meeting [had ended] did I begin to feel concerned as to their intentions”.

        How did Paisley know that Kerr had been in Kincora?
        Who told him Kerr was working at the Cumberland?
        Who told Paisley “Englishmen” had abused children at Kincora?
        Why was Paisley prepared to help protect English paedophiles?
        Who were the men who accompanied him?

        The following week a white envelope arrived at the hotel. It contained black-and-white photographs of Kerr, naked. The manager of the hotel, a Mr Gardner, showed them to Kerr who was deeply embarrassed and made an excuse that they must have been posted by a jealous ex-girlfriend. Gardiner let Kerr know that he was not pleased but didn’t dismiss him.
        Who were the Englishmen Paisley strove to protect?

        Clint Massey, another Kincora survivor, revealed in 2015 that “there were loads of people over from London. I have always assumed they were senior figures from Whitehall. I certainly heard English accents”.

        The whistle-blower Robin Bryans (See Village October 2017) knew a lot of them, including Anthony Blunt of MI5. Another was a “decidedly gay-looking” man called Peter England. Bryans told this author in 1990 that while he knew England “very well” he “didn’t like him much”.

        England was a former boyfriend of Sir Samuel Knox Cunningham QC MP and had also had a relationship with the Irish publisher, Charles Monteith, both members of the Anglo-Irish Vice Ring.

        Peter England lived in London, had served in the Royal Navy during WWII and later went to work at the Ministry of Defence (MoD). He transferred to the Northern Ireland Office in the 1970s. Declassified files furnished to the Hart Inquiry demonstrated that some of his work involved oversight of the black propaganda activities of

        the Army and intelligence services. According to Bryans, “the main thing to do with covering up for Kincora” related to England. This analysis makes perfect sense because England: 1) had died in 1978 and therefore could be named without fear of a libel action; 2) had a criminal record: he had been arrested and convicted for obscene behaviour in a London toilet; 3) his exposure would have blown the Kincora cover-up wide apart, for it would have demonstrated knowledge of the scandal at the highest level of the NI O and made a nonsense of the claim that Kincora was an isolated aberration.

        The late Merlyn Rees, a former Secretary of State for NI , worked with England at the NI O. In his NI memoirs, Rees described how England was: “a man of wide experience at the [MoD], whose work over the next three years [in Belfast] was to prove invaluable, though the physical stress of the job may have contributed to his tragically early death in 1978”. Moreover, he said that England “was a hard task master but at the same time he always showed concern for those working in the office”.

        Clearly, England showed more “concern’”for his staff than for the children he abused. By the time of his death, Bryans recalled that England had let himself go and had become “scruffy”.

        There is more: on 23 January 2015 the late journalist Liam Clarke reported in the Belfast Telegraph that two RUC officers had told him that a Tory MP had “visited Kincora during the 1970s”. Both officers, he reported, were “willing to help any inquiry into Kincora either here or in England. They revealed that the MP died before they could arrange to interview him”. There are only two MPs who match this description. One of the officers revealed that the MP had visited NI “quite regularly…We were told by criminal records in Scotland Yard, London, that he had a conviction many years ago for indecent behaviour or something in a gen ts’ loo against another boy, but his death meant we never got a chance to question him”.
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        AND, ANOTHER EXCERPT ;
        Who were Paisley’s ultimate puppet masters?

        McGrath had multiple connections to Paisley – as had McKeague. McKeague had converted to the Paisley brand of Free Presbyterianism in 1966, and acted as Paisley’s bodyguard for a time. He was pivotal to the UVF bombing campaign that helped topple NI PM Terence O’Neill in 1968. He was also involved in the Ulster Protestant Volunteers, an organisation Paisley helped to set up in the 1960s.

        During the 1960s while they were close to Paisley, McGrath and McKeague were involved 1) in the UVF; 2) the anti-O’Neill bomb campaign; 3) arms procurement; and 4) no end of hate crimes, not to mention child abuse.

        The Cumberland Hotel incident seems to demonstrate that Paisley had been got at, most likely by incriminating information possessed by McGrath and McKeague. Since they were British assets, it is legitimate to ask: did one or both of them turn the screws on Paisley to get him to intimidate Kerr; moreover, did they do so with the support of Ian Cameron; Sir Howard Smith, D-G of MI5 1979-81; his deputy Sir John Jones (who became D-G, 1981-85); and others in MI5; not to mention Sir Maurice Oldfield and his MI6 cronies?
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        https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2017/11/kincora-survivor/
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        AND, HERE IS SAMPLE ON Victor Rothshild FOR U ;
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        http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/12/international-network-whistleblower-kerr.html

  9. Truthist

    “Hard” Border or “Soft” Border for “Irish State”-”North East of Ireland” is still going to involve a ramping up of Orwellian State in both jurisdictions.
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    Yee have been very foolish to not put a stop to Photo ID Card forced upon Irish Citizens.
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    With that Stazi Photo ID Card system + associated database, yee will BE snookered + FEEL snookered from showing any dissent about anything worth having dissension for.

  10. Deco

    This is a redrafting of several previous articles with Tripadvisor being bolted on top.

    For Ulster Presbytrians this is a rather trouble predicament that they face. They only know themselves as being number 1. The psychological adaptation is going to be severe.

    They are focussed on the wrong stuff. Cars, bread&circuses, TV, jobs that have been eliminated by offshoring, the Old Testament, white bread and jam, burgers and fries, and working hard in what is a welfare statelet. Plus all the military stuff.

    And that is the thin end of the wedge towards societal decline.

    To be honest, having a large dysfunctional, moody populace, separatist grouping like that in a country is a headache.

    For Coveney it is an even bigger headache than having SF as the main opposition party on Kildare Street, with FF as the SDLP 2.0.

    The Anglicans will gradually adapt. Apart from anything else they own most of the real estate that in NI.

    But the Ulster Calvinists have no sense of direction or purpose, apart from Billy the Dutch Calvinist on a horse. [ no expensive Subarus in those days].

    If you want to survive, you need to address the malinvestment in time and money. And it seems that this is exactly what has gone wrong in NI. Too much malinvestment in time and money.

    There is a lesson there for all of us.

    SWITCH OFF THE TV, and stop wasting your time on rubbish. There is a reason why they call it programming.

    Northern Nationalists are blessed that they do not have their very own television station to program them to obsolence. All those nuances about Londonderry are keeping Northern Nationalist from becomming as useless as their neighbours.

    And in the end all the addicts to superficiality in NI’s Protestant community have got are the nuances and the superficialities.

    They need a different sort of leadership to that offered by the DUP. One that tells them to get off the couch, switch off the remote control, and grow up.

    IF YOU WANT TO SURVIVE……SWITCH OFF THE TELEVISION.

  11. Deco

    Regarding the Tripadvisor count…maybe this is an honest reflection that Northerners eat so much junk food.

    Generally, the food gets better the further south you go. Swedish meatballs ? No thanks. Not if I was starving. Give me spagetti Bolognese any day. And give me Spanish ahead of German food.

    Even within countries it gets better as one goes south. In France Lyon surpasses Paris.

    And in Ireland Kinsale surpasses anything in Dublin, for quality – at the same price, despite the scale advantages of Dublin.

    More restaurants, and better restaurants as you had south – implies the inverse.

    Northerners are NOT fussy eaters. They eat just about any rubbish. Often more concerned about price.

    • Truthist

      Ref.
      “… And in Ireland Kinsale surpasses anything in Dublin, for quality …”
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      ………………………………………
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      At least ;
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      “… if we discount “Dr” Kevin McCarthy from Kinsale – the pseudo-historian …”
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      8-)
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  12. KryptoK9

    Dear Mr McWilliams.

    The myriad tribes of these islands cannot allow #Brexit to dominate & derail the neccessary ongoing upcycling of the factional identities which contest and claim dominion over both the British and Irish Meta-Narratives. Such work is the essential pre-cursor for any plausible convening of a ‘United Ireland’ at any future stage.

    The residual elements of previous eras who pledged allegiance to fundamentalist iterations of their tribal identities cannot be allowed to use the Brexit process as a way of re-establishing their toxicity in younger generations. This applies to any and all identity affiliations on both sides of the border.

    There are now other tribes added to the mix via immigration. Some of these tribes also have fundamentalist fringe elements who are seeking to dominate the discourse. They too must not be allowed to hi-jack the complexities of UK separation from the European Union as fuel to energise their agendas. An alliance of identity-fanaticism enabled by weaponising Brexit would be a calamitious outcome. The governments of the UK and the remaining 27 nations within the post-Brexit European Union have an especially critically role and responsiblity in these matters and must be wary of those in their midst who would weaponise Brexit by amplifying discordant identity argumentativeness without due care or strategic consideration as to the likely future consequences of such short-termism.

    Political & economic propaganda experts of all persuasions should also be kept firmly in check by responsible media decision-makers alert to to these potentially disastrous outcomes. They should scrupulously guard their propaganda channels from intrusive raids by opportunist careerists seeking to feed a Brexit Narrative dominated by dysfunctional identity absolutists via tawdry click-bait circulation boosterism. They should focus their media strategies on highlighting political actors and agent whose negotiating strategies and PR pronouncements focus on initiatives which are seriously working at overcoming the technical issues which remain to enable a smooth transition to a post-Brexit reality on these islands.

    Yours sincerely

    Mr Andy Mooney

  13. Truthist

    Christine Keeler of “The Profumo Affair” died today aged 75 years.
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    Reckon that The Profumo Affair was manufactured as a scandal so as to protect Victor Rothschild for having stolen the Nuke secrets to give to USSR & Izzy.
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    North East of Ireland & the rest of Ireland was very much the playground for the long-running & constant homosexual abuse of boys shenanigans under spy-master Victor’s control ;
    Thankfully, Victor not a homosexual pedophile himself or so it seems ;
    He into women only.
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    Reminding once again ;
    It is with such gatherings that future of Ireland vis-a-vis Britain & EU & NATO is being decided.
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  14. Deco

    Concerning demographics, there are SIX North Western counties in a state of irreversible demographic collapse.

    Donegal, Leitrim, Sligo, Mayo, Cavan, Roscommon.

    Much of Galway, and Tipperary is no better.

    And that demographic problem is much worse than any in the North East of the island.

    No mention of it.

  15. coldblow

    I don’t think people care about a united Ireland. Many could not have cared less for quite a long time now while those who did cannot see the point any more because Ireland, even in the guise of Modern Ireland, has gone for good. When did this happen? My guess is some time during the last two years, but don’t take my word for it.

    Thinking about it, a passage by John Waters (“Was It For This?”) came to mind. “… A society does not have a continuous personality in a way that human beings tend to have: rather it lurches and shifts from one personality to another… The even stranger thing is that it is human beings, who themselves maintain more or less constant personalities, who cause this to happen. They ‘participate’ in the new collective personality, which is utterly different to the old one, while themselves seeming to be the same people they always were. Or perhaps this effect is just an illusion arising from the quantum of individual dishonesty that creeps into our collective conversation.”

    Ireland, north and south, may (or may not) re-emerge but it will be a very different place, the original one having been deliberately undermined by our brain-dead progressives and Children’s Crusaders, who will finish off sawing the branch they are sitting upon unless a miracle happens.

    Catholicism and Protestantism are scarcely relevant. The major branches are little more than social work organizations preaching fashionable [c pieties.

    David used to be ahead of the curve but now he is a long way behind as if the track he has been dutifully running along is twisting and buckling under his feet and forming wild loops and chicanes in the air all about him.

    I’d watch the ‘other religion’ and ‘no religion’ categories in the pie chart. Perhaps in the special circumstances prevailing in the North respondents were not obliged to state their religion. Or they were following Famous Seamus’s motto: whatever you do say nothing. I can’t imagine a census worker from the Republic letting this slip past him as they are so annoyingly insistent and pedantic about the wretched business. Maybe they could not make themselves understood, the censees not speaking English, and were reduced to charades. Three syllables. A film. And a book! Sounds like… And if they did get an answer they didn’t understand it and could not spell it. Or perhaps your censor showed the censee a ‘portfolio’ of photographs: the Pope, Big Ian, QE2, Princess Di, Osama Bin Laden, Martin Luther King, a child’s drawing of the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him), Haile Selassie, Bob Marley, Aleister Crowley, Ozzie Osborn just like the police in their trawling operations looking for celebrity paedophiles. (“Yes, he was there too.”)

    Whatever the truth of the matter, this category will grow and grow and not that of the hoped-for atheisists.

  16. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    Finally, after decades of fruitless research, a missing link between a monkey and a human has been found – a Tory MP Bernard Jenkin, or Jerk-in – for friends, Jerk:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQzIGR8eqo

    And my summary of Mr Jerk-in:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ba1OKY7Xc&t=0m45s

  17. Truthist

    David has asked what if Gerry Adams is a top plant / spy for the British Intelligence Service.
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    And, so how about this ?
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    https://www.henrymakow.com/001399.html

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “David has asked if Gerry Adams is a top plant / spy for the British Intelligence Service” – who, David McWilliams has asked about that – he did????????????! When, where? I’m following his public announcements quite closely and I missed that. I find it extremely hard to believe that he would have asked that.

      • Truthist

        OH, YES HE DID ! ! !

        8-)

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          Yea, but where, like? Quote, pls

          • Truthist

            I have been searching ;
            To no avail yet.
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            BUT, DMW DEFINITELY DID
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            AND, IT WAS PRE-MEDITIATED TOO
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            ……………………………….
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            Here is interesting thread I just found ;
            Please bear in mind that the particular blog I giving now is riddled with Hasabara ;
            And, they very active at seeking to censor & control discussions.
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            REMIND EWE OF WHOM ? 8-)
            Deco had to rebuke that[those ?] person[s ?] at least once for seeking to control the discussion.
            That[those ?] person[?] then recoiled with meekness & offered weasel words for to excuse themselves.
            I not afraid to challenge or differ with Deco ;
            But, I greatly admire his intelligence & noble intentions & general perception.
            ………………………..
            Returning to politics.ie specifically ;

            Very likely that members of that Hasbara team are administrators on it too.
            In fact, it would not surprise me that the particular blog is a Mshd operation either from get-go or since-’til-now [ my makey-up phrase ].
            Intelligence gathering on contributers & readers.
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            ………………………………..
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            I think McWilliams committed that “enquiry” in year 2006 ;
            Anyway, my witness of McWilliams posing that searching question 8-) was of McWilliams as host on Agenda programme on TV3.
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            I BELIEVE THAT ADAMS IS OF “THE INTERNATIONALE”
            a la
            Mandela
            Walesa
            Che Guevara
            De Rossa [ Mr. "With his list" 8-); "Stalin" 8-) ]
            Rossa Luxembourg
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            ad infinitum ;
            Well, discrete entities human are finite in number ;
            But, ewe know what I mean.
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    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      What’s the evidence for such statement about Mr Adams? The link you gave only talks about Hitler and Jews, and right now, I’m bored with both.
      Such revisionist statement about Mr Adams m u s t be followed by some evidence – and it’s plain to see to everyone that I’m not saying this from the position of SF supporter.
      I know that Lech Walesa was – this has been proven in 100% – at some stage the communist secret service informer; but Gerry Adams working for the British Intelligence???! Oh, come on.

      • Truthist

        I, personally, am not asserting that Adams was or is working for British Intelligence.
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        ALTHOUGH, I WOULD ASSERT THAT ADAMS IS WORKING FOR AN INTEREST WHICH IS NOT IRISH NATIONALIST.
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        But, I am reminding those with memories that David did strongly propose the consideration / motion that Adams could be working before & then for British Intelligence.
        Indeed, David deposited his somewhat of a rhetorical question in dramatic tone.
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        SO, YES, THE PRECEDENT IS THERE FOR CONSIDERATION OF DEEP CONSPIRACIES
        8-)
        …………………………………………….
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        EWE BEING A GEO-POLITICAL SCHOLAR SURELY SHOULD NEVER BE BORED ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF GEO-POLITICAL REAL-ESTATE WHICH IS Israel, & then “Greater” Israel.
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        EWE CAN CONTROL THE WHOLE WORLD THERE BY VIRTUE OF ITS GEOGRAPHY.
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        THAT IS WHY THEY OPTED FOR THERE INSTEAD OF :
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        Oblast ;
        Given by Stalin
        Near China
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        Madagascar ;
        Proposed by Zionist himself Hitler & Friends
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        Patagonia ;
        But, “Greater” Patagonia
        Stretching from Pacific of Chile to real Patagonia of Argentina.
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        Uganda
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        ………………………………………
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        “Bored” will not be the appropriate word for what is about to happen following Trumps new official policy Re ; Jerusalem.
        Appalled is appropriate.

        • Truthist

          Google results for string ;
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          Birobidzhan AND Oblast
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          https://www.google.com/search?dcr=0&source=hp&ei=2NQpWr-TFoTMvgT3t6zADw&q=Birobidzhan+AND+Oblast&oq=Birobidzhan+AND+Oblast&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.2998.12428.0.13213.18.13.5.0.0.0.131.1524.0j13.13.0….0…1c.1j2.64.psy-ab..0.14.1213…0j0i22i10i30k1.0.Hkoq4VKch0Y

        • Truthist

          Israel ; 22,770 Sq. km
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          Oblast ; 36,000 Sq. km

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Yes – but who would like to live in the USSR???! Even Stalin’s own daughter didn’t want to live in the USSR!

          • Truthist

            PARAPHRASING
            .
            8-)
            .
            Grzegorz Kolodziej
            December 8, 2017 at 12:45 am

            Yes – but who would like to live in the Israel???! Even the Jews don’t want to live in Israel!
            .
            8-)

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “Yes – but who would like to live in the Israel???! Even the Jews don’t want to live in Israel!”

            Well, that’s true :-) LOL
            And I’d rather have a few millions of them live
            t h e r e ;-) – especially the “orthodox” ones (yes, them deffo). Don’t you?

          • Truthist

            Lateral Thinker that I am ;
            .
            I think better to have them living right next to u
            .
            Thus, one snookers the Sampson Option

          • Truthist

            House of the Hibernian is world class at words / propaganda
            We have world-class liars ;
            Male & Female
            .
            .
            And, so is the House of the Judaic
            .
            .
            BOTH ARE EQUAL IN TALENT IN THIS REGARD
            .
            ACTUALLY, BOTH ARE THE 2 VERY BEST EVER.
            Worth printing ;
            .
            .
            http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          What’s the big deal with Jerusalem as Israel’s capital? That’s exactly what the Bible says (regardless of who are the true Israelites) – and you believe in the Bible, do you?
          Interestingly, PM Netanyahu was recently encouraging to read the Bible:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJUi7ErJzpc
          and
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE46vPSgH30
          – unlike that gay president Putin, who supports the Anti-Pope Francis, and has satanist Dugin as his main advisor.

          BESIDES, Moscow recognised Jerusalem as the Jewish capital in APRIL – but you weren’t a p p a l l e d by the that. In fact, you didn’t say a word about it.

          And I’m not exactly saying that as a fan of Israel (i.e., the only time when newspapers all over the w o r l d stopped anti-Polish lies – for a couple of months there was virtually not one negative article about Poland!; not even by Derek Scally :-) – was when the Israeli company was negotiating a contract for avionics for the Polish army).
          So there you go.

          • Truthist

            I not sure if u addressing :
            Deco solely
            Truthist solely
            Deco initially, & then Truthist
            …………………………….
            “…that gay president Putin …” ;
            .
            Putin :
            Homosexual ? ; Since when ?
            Bisexual ? ; Since when ?

            U read what Hallett says about :

            Putin in New Zealand ?
            Putin’s doppleganger in New Zealand ?
            …………………………
            “…Moscow recognised Jerusalem as the Jewish capital in APRIL – but you weren’t a p p a l l e d by the that.
            In fact, you didn’t say a word about it.”

            The above is news to me ;

            My own reference to “appalling” is Re;

            the violence that the Self-Chosenites will inflict to accomplish that

            the likelihood of casualties amongst the Self-Chosenites ;
            Even if covertly done by their own
            Plenty of precedences for that
            Aside from likelihood of fake victims.

            the likelihood of eschatology being fulfilled
            And, u thought that Nimrod was nasty.

            …………………………….
            “…the only time when newspapers all over the w o r l d stopped anti-Polish lies – for a couple of months there was virtually not one negative article about Poland !;
            not even by Derek Scally :-) ”

            “… was when the Israeli company was negotiating a contract for avionics for the Polish army.”

            NOW, WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT :

            The Anti-Irish CUM Anti-Polish Times [ aka The C..M Times or "The Newspaper of Record for Irish State*" ;
            .
            *
            Ref.
            Mysterious Spook Mr. Gageby [ Intriguing name that ; I wonder was it procured 8-) ] who as its editor is “credited with moving the Irish Times from a Unionist organ into a successful Irish journal of record”
            He also the father of recently retired The Chief Justice of Ireland Sue Denham.
            8-)
            .
            Derek Scally ? 8-)

          • Truthist

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Gageby
            .
            .
            ……………………………..
            .
            .
            Google / Mshd results for string
            .
            Gageby name origin
            .
            .
            https://www.google.com/search?dcr=0&source=hp&ei=FzIqWs_IFsXovASavb_gDw&q=Gageby+name+origin&oq=Gageby+name+origin&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1l2.3399.3399.0.4939.1.1.0.0.0.0.172.172.0j1.1.0….0…1c..64.psy-ab..0.1.172….0.PEp1eu-43Xw

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “U read what Hallett says about :
            Putin’s doppleganger in New Zealand ?” – I read and I replied: the UK/US replacing Putin with a double who is a lot more anti-West: it doesn’t make any sense.

            “The above is news to me” – this wasn’t particularly hidden news; the reason that it didn’t trigger so much outrage (none, in fact) is because so much western media (including social media – Russian troll factories) is saturated by the Russian propaganda – so you rarely hear interesting or compromising facts about Russia.

            “the violence that the Self-Chosenites will inflict to accomplish that
            the likelihood of casualties amongst the Self-Chosenites” – that’s always a possibility (and that’s also in the Bible – the Bible predicts:
            1. Scattering of the Jews
            2. Restoring the state of Israel
            3. Stupid Israel
            4. Israel’s conversion to Christ (it already happened with Netanyahu)
            5. Armageddon

            In my opinion, as long as there is no
            a) Iran-Saudi Arabia war or
            b) Saudi Arabia turning anti-Israel,
            there will be no Armageddon.

            a) won’t happen soon because Russia has just made multibillion-dollar deals with both countries
            b) won’t happen because Saudi Arabia is dependent on petro-dollar

          • Truthist

            Grzegorz,

            Hallett not really proposing that Mr. P has a doppelganger.
            Rather, Hallett asserting that Mr. P was a Pedo in New Zealand.
            I suggesting the doppelganger part lest Hallett sincere but wrong about whom exactly.
            I think that u missed the pedo allegations in ur reading.
            .
            …………………………..
            .
            Putin has big fan-base amongst Israeli Jews ;
            I have that from horse’s mouth.
            And, this despite Putin helping to defeat Israel Secret Intelligence Service [ ISIS ]‘s proxy army of mercenaries recruited from many countries AND TRAINED BY SOME OF EX-IRISH ARMY RANGERS.
            .
            ………………………..
            .
            1. Scattering of the Jews

            Since time of Solomon, Jews all over the continents accessible by land from location which is the most strategically valuable because possible to control 3 continents simultaneously :
            Africa
            Asia
            Europe
            That would be “Wandering” as explorers & merchants & pirates & slave capturers & slave traders inter alia.
            Solomon had created an eratz / greater Israel actually ;
            From Euphretes to Nile.
            .
            Since been banished by Romans from then Palestine, they in exile #2 all over the world.
            ……………………………..

            2. Restoring the state of Israel

            I not know for sure if can be confirmed as prophesised.
            ……………………………..
            3. Stupid Israel

            How actually “stupid” ?
            ……………………………..

            4. Israel’s conversion to Christ (it already happened with Netanyahu)

            Ewe cannot be serious ?

            Although Netanyahu did convert from being a Jew to being an Irishman by name of O’Sullivan or just Sullivan as his mask when selling furniture during his stint in USA.

            5. Armageddon
            .
            Many are looking forward to it.
            .
            ……………………………..

            I reading this meanwhile ;
            Not finished yet ;
            .
            .
            https://jamesperloff.com/2016/08/31/the-war-on-christianity-part-ii-the-abomination-and-blasphemy-of-christian-zionism/

          • Truthist

            VIP
            .
            Most of our NEOI brethren are now Zio-Christians.
            Just like their descendants in USA.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            No time for long discussions.
            I assumed that you read the Bible… I’ve to say I’m a bit disappointed and saddened that I have to show you such b a s i c quotes from the Bible that all Christians should know:

            Deuteronomy 30:3
            “then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have mercy on you, and he will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you.”

            Ezekiel 36:24
            “I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land.”

            This is to be followed by the Antichrist making a 7-year peace offer to Israel:

            Isaiah 28:18
            “Then your covenant with death will be annulled,
            and your agreement with Sheol will not stand;
            when the overwhelming scourge passes through,
            you will be beaten down by it.”

            Daniel 9:27
            “And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”

            and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem, followed by the invasion of Israel, who will suffer until it recognises Christ as the true Messiah – which the Bible also predicts:

            Zechariah 12:10
            “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep”

            Romans 11:26
            “And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
            “The Deliverer will come from Zion,
            he will banish ungodliness from Jacob””

            “Israel’s conversion to Christ (it already happened with Netanyahu)
            Ewe cannot be serious ?” – no, I am very serious: did you not watch those videos I attached with Netanyahu quoting and encouraging to read the Bible and establishing the Bible studies in his office?
            Watch his UNESCO speech – he quotes the Bible FIVE times!

            Of course, that’s only Netanyahu converting, not Israel as such (btw – the main Zionist party in Knesset is… Russian speaking).

            So I am serious – I THINK THAT EWE WERE JOKING WITH YOUR MULTIPLE STATEMENTS THAT ABORTION-ENCOURAGING, SATANIST DUGIN PROMOTING PUTIN AND KGB AGENT KYRIL HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY. SHOW ME EVEN ONE VIDEO IN WHICH PUTIN QUOTES THE BIBLE.

            And speaking of Russia (where contrary to Russian propaganda for the useful idiots in the West, Islam – and not Christianity – is the main religion), I guess you’ve missed that bit of news too: it is now ILLEGAL in Russia to conduct Bible studies at homes, and the Russian police and their so-called courts are PERSECUTING people who gather at their OWN homes to read the Bible, or hand it out – the so-called “Yarovaya package” which forbids Bible studies outside the State-controlled (read: FSB/KGB controlled) buildings.

            The new law directly contradicts the right to

            “manifest … religion or belief in worship, observance, practice, and teaching,”

            both in public and private, that is outlined in the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, of which Russia is a participating state.

            So
            Russia a Christian country?
            Putin a Chrisian?
            KGB-Kyril a Christian?
            Ewe gotta be kiddin’!!!!!!!!!!

            Not to mention China, where you can be utilised for your organs for that – and no Clare Daly will ever speak about it (Clare Daly TD cashed in for turning up on the Russian TV, where she spoke against her own country).

            So because you don’t seem to have been aware of any of that, my friend…
            And more importantly – because you didn’t read the Bible.
            I hereby close our discussion on Putin, Jews, Bible, Zionism, and the so-called “Patriarch” Kyril (he is as much “Orthodox” as the Anti-Pope Francis is a “Pope”).

            Goodnight.

            P.S. Seriously – start studying the Bible, and encourage other people (not by force or verbal attacks though) to do the same.

          • Before the bible is studied, and used as authority, perhaps, there should be some consideration as to who wrote the bible and when.
            The first books of the bible appear to be revisionist history to reflect the wishes of the authors in later times. This is interesting reading.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah

          • “” Many people believe that Jerusalem has been the capital of the kingdom of Israel for 3,000 years, but ?biblical records show that Jerusalem has been the capital for less than 150 years. -GEG”"

            https://needtoknow.news/2017/12/moving-capital-israel-tel-avis-jerusalem-cause-world-war/

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “The first books of the bible appear to be revisionist history to reflect the wishes of the authors in later times.” – the link that you gave provides nothing to support your thesis; it merely says (and this doesn’t refer to the first books of the Bible anyway):
            “The exile community in Babylon thus became the source of significant portions of the Hebrew Bible: Isaiah 40–55; Ezekiel; the final version of Jeremiah; the work of the hypothesized priestly source in the Pentateuch; and the final form of the history of Israel from Deuteronomy to 2 Kings.”

            This statement, however, is inconsistent with Finkelstein and Silberman research that Wikipedia article refers to – Finkelstein claimed that these books were written in the late 7th century BCE in Jerusalem, before the siege (so before the exile – so they couldn’t have been written by the expelees). Besides, the Wikipedia article is out-of-date, because it refers to his 2001 book, while last year Finkelstein’s team found evidence that they were indeed written before the siege, which confirmed his earlier view.

            When it comes to the fist books of the Bible, you should take into consideration, Tony, that they were written a lot earlier than Upanishads: Upanishads were written 900-300 BC, while:
            Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers were written 1445-1405 B.C.

            This is a short article from 7 years ago on why the 6 century BC hypothesis, espoused in the Wikipedia article you linked to, is now obsolete (and there has been a lot more evidence since):

            https://www.livescience.com/8008-bible-possibly-written-centuries-earlier-text-suggests.html

            I envy you that you are probably enjoying a Polish-like dry, snowy winter – Met Eireann has been predicting heavy snow, but all we got was a f…g rain all night (it has been very dark all day – like at early dawn! – so much so that I have to have a light on in the kitchen – so maybe that indicates that a snow will finally fall – OMG – it started falling just as I am writing this! – but no: it’s melting, so it’s sleet :-( ) – though the Sally Gap was impassable in the morning due to snow.

          • Truthist

            Seeing that u returning to talk biblical at least, I venture to correct u on what if left uncorrected would mislead most readers who with ur top contributions all along are understandably readily swayed to ur all arguments & evidence ;
            .
            Nathan-the-Yahoo-CUM-Mshd/Google-with-Ewetube means :
            .
            …………………………….
            .
            1_
            a crucially different Bible vis-a-vis any Bible of any Christian Bible
            Even, crucially different to the Rothschild sponsored Schofield which is blasphemous & altogether a scheme to :
            justify the formation of Israel as Jewish State at expense of Palestinians initially, & a host of Arabs & Kurds & Cops perhaps eventually with actual Greater Israel / Eratz [ or however "Greater" in Hebrew ? is correctly spelt ] Israel.

            Here is a link I gave earlier in this discussion from scholar of Judaic origin but actually a Christian — Mr. James Perloff — for ur added convenience ;
            But, again, I wish that u only skim so as to find relevant info..
            .
            .
            https://jamesperloff.com/2016/08/31/the-war-on-christianity-part-ii-the-abomination-and-blasphemy-of-christian-zionism/
            .
            .
            I believe, also, that “The Yahoo Person” is really referring to the Tanakah [ or however this spellin is spelt ].
            The Tanakah differs to the Christian Bibles in many ways
            incl.
            Extra books in Tanakeh
            Extra books in Christian Bible.
            ……………………………….
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            2_
            a crucially different Christ to whom all Christians understand.
            Indeed, “The Yahoo Person” would gladly declare Jesus Christ is NOT the Christ ;
            And, for the much the same reasons that the Pharisees back in Christ’s time as living man said so.
            “The Yahoo Person” is wishing for a Christ who is as the Pharisees required.
            And, at this stage, such a Christ would have to be the Anti-Christ.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Well, I have a surprise for you (and your comment only confirms that you didn’t study the Bible): Tanakh is actually a textual source of b o t h Catholic and Protestant authoritative Bible translations.

            When you say:

            “The Tanakah differs to the Christian Bibles in many ways
            incl.
            Extra books in Tanakeh
            Extra books in Christian Bible.”

            you confuse two things:

            1. You confuse some of the Old Testament books in Tanakh that are recognised by the Catholic Church as parts of the Old Testament but are not recognised by protestant churches (not part of the protestant Bible)
            and
            2. Then you confuse some extra Old Testament books that are no in Tanakh but are recognised in the Catholic Church (the deuterocanonical books) and those who are recognised in the Orthodox Church (the deuterocanonical books).

            The link that you provided is very interesting but completely off topic, except in one brief mention which confirms what I’ve just and debunks what you’ve just said about the Tanakh:

            “it is important to understand that religious Jews follow the Talmud, which rabbis consider senior to the Tanakh (Old Testament of the Christian Bible)” – yes, and Christians reject Talmud and consider Tanakh senior.

            Conclusion: you should read and write less about Rothschilds and more about the Bible, as without reading the Bible (and it became obvious to me this weekend that you didn’t read it) you cannot become a Christian.
            I’m saying this not because I don’t care about you but because I do.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “those who are recognised in the Orthodox Church (the deuterocanonical books)” = precisely the Anagignoskomena portions. For example Catholics and Protestants consider 2 Esdras Apocrypha, but some Orthodox Churches recognise it as parts of the Old Testament.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “a Christ who is as the Pharisees required.
            And, at this stage, such a Christ would have to be the Anti-Christ.” – you might benefit when you listen to this debate (which also mentions the anti–Christ):

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhrRs_jlSdU

            Bear in mind – according to the Bible, Israel converts as l a s t (but it does convert).

          • Truthist

            My apologies for deficiencies in the phrasing of my last post ;
            .
            e.g.
            .
            I did not differentiate properly between The Tanakeh & The Bible ;
            Of course, it is important to highlight that Judaism does not speak of the Bible to itself ;
            Rather, it speaks of the Tanekeh.
            And, these 2 books differ more than in how I outlined ;
            I was aware of my inadequate differentiation immediately upon reading how the post offered up in the blog.
            But, my logistics, so to speak, meant that it was the best I could do at the time.
            .
            Here is a better short + simple effort :
            Not that u need educating on these points ;
            But, rather that I do so for to show where I stand, & also for other readers who need to benefit.
            .
            Preamble ;
            Bible in the context of Judaism, & certainly with how Nathan-Yahoo means ;
            ==> NO New Testament
            .
            .
            Tanakeh
            .
            .
            T_1
            .
            Has some books that :
            all of Christianity includes in Old Testament
            .
            Although, Christian denominations differ in what they recognise from that selection of books
            fully
            partially
            .
            .
            T_2
            .
            has books which none of Christianity includes in Old Testament
            i.e.
            does NOT recognise /
            rejects
            .
            .
            Bible
            .
            B_1
            I THINK / I SEEM TO RECALL
            Some denominations of Christianity have some books in its Old Testament that Judaism does not recognises
            .
            B_2
            Darby –> & then the Schofield Bible is premeditated twisted version of Christian Bible
            Twisted Re ;
            Old Testament
            New Testament
            And, done so with intention of :
            undermining Christianity in general
            recruiting Protestant religions to be Zio-Christians
            AND, THIS CRUCIAL NOW TO UNDERSTANDING :
            THE BULK OF PROTESTANTS “SOUTH OF DIXIE” IN USA
            INCREASINGLY MORE PROTESTANTS AROUND THE WORLD
            MOST OF OUR GRUMPY THEOLOGIAN BRETHREN UP IN North East of Ireland [ NEOI ]
            .
            ………………………………..
            .
            Until now, I have not read all of the Old Testament fully.
            I did read fully :
            Genesis
            Ecclesiastes
            Book of Job
            Proverbs
            .
            I did well to read what I did given that :
            .
            Catholic Church does not encourage reading of Bible by most of laity
            Certainly, does not encourage reading of Old Testament
            It prefers that laity reads / hears only what is given to them by Priests & Nuns.
            But, it is accepting that Scholars read any of Bible.
            .
            Old Testament is a laborsome read in that most of it with regular references to whosoever being related to whomsoever.
            .
            Old Testament is a horrific read in many places with what it tells of as :
            God’s wishes & actions
            various Hebrew’s wishes & actions
            .
            OK, I CUT SHORT HERE LEST I GO INTO ESSAY MODE
            .
            ……………………………..
            .
            I very surprised that u are recommending reading of the Bible ;
            Aside from the New Testament of course.
            OK, I would expect u to recommend reading the Old Testament for to extract what is in store for eschatology to come, & indeed as to what has occured in eschatology thus far [ if that is the case already ].
            I venture to say that u may be of like mind with me that there are geo-political folks out there — probably very evil — using the Old Testament [ Heck, they may be using the New Testament's Book of Revelations too the sick crazy dudes that they are ] as blueprint for how to carve out the future of the world :
            .
            for kicks
            .
            for sake that it a most impressive blueprint, & thus a variation of “I have it, so I will spend it”

            for to RUSH on the coming of :
            .
            1st arrival of the Christ ;
            Judaism thinking
            .
            2nd arrival
            [ or rather 3rd arrival ;
            Because, Christ appeared again to Apostles & Mary & some others after his death ] of the Christ ;
            Christian & Islamic thinking
            .
            ……………………………….
            .
            I think that the Zio-Christian Protestants hoping for the Rapture really just want to be entertained by the spectacle of it all.
            Ahead of Hollywood, they would have enjoyed Burlesque Theatre.
            .
            …………………………..
            .
            Sheikh Imran Hossein should be of great interest to u in his advice to the Moslems in Europe to prepare to leave Europe as soon as possible so as to return to their homelands in North Africa & the Middle East & Asia.
            He says this respectfully to Moslems .
            And, he says it with respect to Christians.
            He says that the Muslims do not belong in Europe.
            He wishes that they return to their homelands for to develop the agriculture mainly.
            He wishes that Christianity revives in Europe.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Very long post of yours for something that can be formulated very simply:

            Your assertion – Tanakh contains books not recognised by Christianity.

            No, it does not – Tanakh is a source for Christian Bible translations.

            Your further minor assertions:

            “certainly with how Nathan-Yahoo means ;
            ==> NO New Testament” – I don’t know what Bible he was showing at UNESCO: whether it was with or without the New Testament – I bet you don’t know it either (what, did you ask him? Or did you make inquiries on what Bible he reads?).
            All I know that with NT or not, he is quoting the Bible and Putin isn’t – yet for some reason, you were maintaining that Putin is a Christian.

            “T_2
            .
            has books which none of Christianity includes in Old Testament” – false.

            “Some denominations of Christianity have some books in its Old Testament that Judaism does not recognises” – that’s a completely different assertion to what we are discussing, and I won’t go into that as it is trivial.

            I never said that Tanakh = Old Testament (even for the simple fact that Christians themselves argue what in in the OT) – I simply said that contrary top your assertion there is nothing in Tanakh that is not in the Old Testament.

            B2 – “Darby –> & then the Schofield Bible is premeditated twisted version of Christian Bible” now you got me slightly irritated – I don’t care about the Bibles they read and don’t even know what translations or versions they have (I try to read the NT in original anyway); what the hell is Scholfield Bible????! Perhaps you mean the Scofield Reference Bible? For goodness sake, what’s that got with Tanakh? Do you think it’s fun for me to jump from one topic to another? If you lived close, then we have regular Bible studies and I could tell you more about the twisting of the Biblical text than you can imagine – but not here (the most twisted translation was Vulgate; the second one Westcott and Hort with over 5,000 words missing).
            Scofield Bible was revised in 1967 anyway.
            Btw, again I will surprise you and tell you that the dispentionalistic theology that the original Scofield Reference Bible relies on doesn’t actually originate from southern states of the USA, but from the 2nd century Ireneus and the author of most of the Catholic dogmas, St. Augustine (later on Many Protestant and Calvinist writers also developed theological schemes and divisions of history, in particular after the Westminster Confession of Faith).

            The most authoritative (the earliest) text of NT is – according to latest research is Textus Receptus, and this is what I use.

            “Catholic Church does not encourage reading of Bible by most of laity” – exactly, there’s always been something dodgy about that – the Jesuits even at some stage officially announced that they can change the word of the Lord if they want to! – that’s why they’ve been banned by the Pope and found refuge in Russia, until they managed to murder the Pope and plant “their Pope”.

            I’m not a laity anyway – I’m more qualified to talk about it than an average bishop.

            “Old Testament is a laborsome read” – yes. Skip it and read the Acts and Apocalypse.

            “.
            1st arrival of the Christ ;
            Judaism thinking” – look, I’ve wasted 30min answering you and now I’m reading this. I’m now thinking of ceasing our communication completely as I realise that you seem to be not reading what I am saying and have some really, forgive me for saying so, MISCONCEPTIONS – JUDAISM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST! SERIOUSLY, I THINK I’LL STOP NOW – JUDAISM BELIEVES THAT CHRIST WAS A FALSE PROPHET AND THAT WHEN HE IS PROPHECISED IN TANAKH AS THEY CALL IT, THEY THINK THAT HE HAS NOT COME YET! SO THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN THE SECOND COMING BECAUSE THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN THE FIRST COMING! DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            That’s why they get scattered (it clearly says in the Bible that their scattering is the punishment for their worship of false idols; and when the state of Israel is restored – as predicted in the Bible – their power is restored, but not their spirit. The Bible even uses a suggestive description of the restored Israel as strongmen without strong souls. The rebuilding of the Temple prophecied in the Bible is followed by Israel entering into a 7 year pact with the Anti-Christ (but those Jews who convert escape) that the Anti-Christ breaches. Then there is Armageddon and
            t h e n Israel converts.

            “I think that the Zio-Christian Protestants hoping for the Rapture really just want to be entertained by the spectacle of it all.” – did I tell you to listen about the Rapture??????! I specifically asked you to listen about the Anti-Christ, as you were interested in it. For instance, he talks about the image of the Anti-Christ to be worshipped in the Temple of Jerusalem.

            And don’t mix Zionism into that. Zionists don’t believe in Christ (I mean – they do believe in Messiah, but they think he is yet to come) – hence they don’t believe in NT (NT replaces the LAWS of the OT, but the PROPHECIES of the OT INTERTWINE with those of NT – it’s just the orthodox Jews misinterpret them).
            But
            Not all:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH-7aoiD9I4

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMEkGoojbg

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGz9BVJ_k6s

            Definitely, watch the third video! – it took me a long time to find it for you and this the LAST time I am spending so much time (and probably any) stating the BASICS and that’s only hoping that you will read the Apocalypse and the Acts.

            THE END

          • Truthist

            I posted prior to even looking at the rapture video.
            Then I played a minute or 2 of the video.
            I will need to get speakers for to hear it.
            .
            I think u misconstrue some of what I said.
            .
            e.g.
            .
            1st arrival of the Christ ;
            Judaism thinking” – look, I’ve wasted 30min answering you and now I’m reading this. I’m now thinking of ceasing our communication completely as I realise that you seem to be not reading what I am saying and have some really, forgive me for saying so, MISCONCEPTIONS – JUDAISM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST !
            …………………………….
            .
            JUDAISM DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS THE CHRIST / MESSIAH
            INDEED, IT HATES & MOCKS JESUS FOR CLAIMING TO BE THE CHRIST / MESSIAH.
            .
            BY THE WAY, HERE IS SAMPLE FROM Nathan the Yahoo’s PERMITTED TV BROADCASTING IN ISRAEL ;
            .
            Google / Mshd results for string ;
            .
            Israel TV mocking Christianity
            .
            .
            https://www.google.com/search?dcr=0&ei=C_ItWqq5A8HhvAT63RE&q=Israel+TV+mocking+Christianity&oq=Israel+TV+mocking+Christianity&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i22i29i30k1.28495.30764.0.31160.8.7.1.0.0.0.149.904.0j7.7.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.5.654….0.hI0KXP8WGmE
            .
            …………………………….
            .
            ALSO, JUDGE A “CHRISTIAN” BY HIS ACTIONS.
            Nathan the Yahoo’s actions in Syria are abominable ;
            ISIS is proven to be essentially an Israeli proxy army.
            And, they primarily targeting Syrian Christians ;
            Even crucifying to death Syrian Christian children on the cross.
            .
            Nathan the Yahoo is beholden to Chabad
            i.e.
            Mr. Schneerson
            Ditto is Putin beholden to Chabad.
            .
            And, there are contentions from notable sources that Mr. Schneerson is not dead.
            .
            .
            I have it from the horse’s mouth, vis Russian Judaic [ Well, not really ; According to Judaism, his mother a guy ( Diplomatically ; a Gentile ) ] some years ago when I homeless + roofless but had brief spell in tourist hostel where I encountered this very intelligent young man who had plenty to say ;
            He originally from Ukraine ;
            But, he claims to be of Russian ethnic affinity.
            He served in Israeli army ;
            And, he volunteered to say how appalling that the Palestinians are treated.
            I did not give my opinions about Israel ;
            But, I was at pains to tell him what a filthy corrupt country he was now in ; Irish State.

            Anyways … Anyways … Anyways

            He said that he is Russian Orthodox Christian.
            And, he said that Israel in its eagerness to gather as many Jews as possible has taken in an incredible amount of Russian Orthodox Christians with similar partial Judaic background.
            He said that this will have a significant impact on Israel.

            SERIOUSLY, I THINK I’LL STOP NOW – JUDAISM BELIEVES THAT CHRIST WAS A FALSE PROPHET AND THAT WHEN HE IS PROPHECISED IN TANAKH AS THEY CALL IT, THEY THINK THAT HE HAS NOT COME YET!
            SO THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN THE SECOND COMING BECAUSE THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN THE FIRST COMING! DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT????
            .
            SORRY THAT I POST THIS UNFINISHED ;
            MUST ATTEND TO SOME DUTIES HERE.
            .
            BY THE WAY, THE EVER NEW INFO U SUPPLY IS MOST INTERESTING ;
            ALL VIDEOS WILL BE STUDIED.
            .
            FROM OUTSET, I DECLARE THAT I NOT BELIEVER IN “Rapture” DOCTRINE.
            BUT, I KEEP OPEN MIND ;
            ESPECIALLY AHEAD OF VIEWING UR VIDEOS.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Now you’ve completely veered out of topic – from the Bible to ISIS.
            But
            Since you mentioned ISIS, you must know that 1/3 of ISIS fighters are Russian speaking…
            Here is a blog that tracks the most prominent of them:

            http://www.chechensinsyria.com/

            And you must bear in mind that according to the word of God, Israel will convert in the end of times…

          • Truthist

            I only glanced at the link tracking the mercenaries of Izzy Secret Intelligence Service ;
            .
            But, Syrian Girl has spoken about the high percentage of Chechnians.
            .
            And, I hear that there is also an elite Chechnian squad of Russia deployment fighting valiantly against IzSIS mercenary army.
            .
            ………………………………
            .
            OK ;
            Here is my timeline about Putin ;
            .
            I naturally suspicious of many a person & organisation being promoted widely by the media [ Main-Stream or Alternative ] ;
            Regardless if I believe the media source very benign & sharp about ever so much other subjects.
            .
            Russia’s performance, or lack of performance, Re; Libya greatly disappointed me.
            .
            Henry Makow who is not perfect person in his earlier life but overall is a great human being was even to dismay of fellow sincere benign Judaics who are fans of Putin engendering tendency, or strong likelihood, or actual, rift in their friendship with him because of his questioning about Putin for what he saw as suspicious or wrong
            .
            Yet, Makow was also quick to praise Putin for worthy & novel utterances & decisions
            .
            Makow particularly cynical about Putin Re;
            .
            downing of aircraft with loss of all life to Poland Government Cabinet in Russia & the very improper follow-up & investigation
            .
            many instances of Msnonic Handshakes etc. from Putin
            .
            Putin’s close association with Chabad
            .
            Putin’s weird & shocking behavior whereby he went forth to kiss a young boy in the crowd ;
            This I only recalled today as 1 basis ewe have for calling Putin “gay”
            .
            Putin’s association with Dugin ;
            Makow for a few years was expressing great concern about Dugin
            I think Makow also accused Dugin as satanic, & more.
            …………………
            .
            Allegations by Hallett against Putin ;
            vis.
            Putin a p..do ;
            But, Hallet a friend & fan of Wright of Spycatcher fame & Stokes.
            I forget which of the 2 latter is famous as Spook Scientist & Technologist who uncovered exactly how the Soviets were bugging the British Embassy ;
            Or was it the USA Embassy ?
            No, I almost sure that it the Brit’s Embassy.
            Ingenious technology from the Soviets ;
            Very famous Russian scientist & inventor I seem to recall.
            And, ingenious how Wright — I more swayed to recalling it being Wright — considered what could be happening & then uncovered it.
            But, Wright said to be deeply involved with Kincora ;
            And, Wright & Stokes & I think Hallett wished for Enoch Powell [ later the MP for Zio-Christian Presbyterians in NEOI ] to be Prime Minister ;
            Even under a coup.
            Mountbatten also earmarked to be PM with coup against Wilson & / or Heath.
            So, where is Hallett as trustworthy in his allegations against Putin if he ignores revealing Wright as knowing Spymaster behind Kincora etc. ?
            .
            …………………………..
            .
            Ur own misgivings about Putin over time gained my interest ;
            But, to be accurate about this matter, u were not very heavy or frequent against Putin until the last year or 2.
            .
            …………………………..
            .
            I myself got suspicious about the Abortion rate in Russia.
            .
            …………………………….
            .
            Open dialogue with u about Putin over a series of blogs whereby the clincher against him we agreed is that he AIN’T A CHRISTIAN DESPITE HIS PUBLIC IMAGE THAT HE IS ;
            ==>
            Hypocrite
            Leader who could stop ALL abortions in an autocratic nation of nations such as Russia BUT INSTEAD FACILITATES IT
            …………………………
            And, some other photo evidence 8-)

  18. Truthist

    F for Fake ; Semantically speaking
    .
    Artificial Intelligence for Fake ; Factually speaking
    .
    .
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia2/ciencia_artificialhumans109.htm

  19. Deco

    Concerning the obsession with the superficial, and belief…..nothing is more ridiculous than the outcry in the Middle East, over what is effectively obvious.

    Jerusalem was founded by the Jews. And it is the political capital of Israel.

    Trump is stating the obvious. And of course Trump has spent his life with New York’s Jewish business community. He effectively sees the Jewish perspective very well. He is also a pragmatist. He r than most.

    For a certain belief system, which is tied to symbolism, and facade, there is a need to maintain the agressive illusion that it’s purpose is to conquer, rule and tax others. It cannot point to spirituality, because it will love the argument to other belief systems.

    It’s first approach is always couched in terms of honour, shame, victimhood, control obsession, agression, fear, intimidation, violence, self-sympathy, and an spectrum of negative emotions. Very unhealthy negative emotions.

    Trump is correct – the world cannot live in fear of intimidation, and not recognise Israel, and it’s political capital.

    The approach before Trump was treat the Israelis, and the Jewish people as lessers. It is to bow to agression, and childish tantrums. It was about time that somebody stood up and called an end to such a farce.

    Unless, there is anybody out there who thinks that the US should move it’s IRL embassy to Clonmel.

    • Deco

      Correction

      For a certain belief system, which is tied to symbolism, and facade, there is a need to maintain the agressive illusion that it’s purpose is to conquer, rule and tax others, this is a criticism of it’s entire pretence.

      And it cannot handle any criticism. Not about the belief system. Not about it’s founder. And not about it’s special obsessions. Because that is all that there is.

      It cannot point to spirituality, because it will lose the argument to other belief systems. Commentators like Hitchens have argued powerfully, that it is too heavily based on plagiarism to offer anything original in repsect of spiritual experience.

      It literally is based on pride, and loads of superficial concerns. It is a shell, covering a control mechanism.

      The outrage is not a representation of genuine injustice, but an expression of weakness, and a disctinct lack in it’s central tenets. A scarcity that it will not allow it’s adherents to examine.

      It will always be fighting the outer, because it lacks an inner.

      And that explains the entire reaction that we are observing. In essence it is built like a warrior belief system. This is also reflected on it’s relentless demands of supression of female emotion.

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “Unless, there is anybody out there who thinks that the US should move it’s IRL embassy to Clonmel.” – I think that the US should move it’s IRL embassy to my street – the street would be super safe; besides, if push comes to shove and “Dr” Kevin McCarthy together with Mr Derek Scally start to persecute me for nationalism, I could always seek refuge in it – like Cardinal Ratzinger in the 1980s (when he feared that some in Vatican want to murder him); or like Cardinal Mindszenty.
      Of course, that’s provided that Mr Trump stays as the US President – during the Obama’s and Michael Obama fascist regime, I would be scared to seek an asylum in the US embassy not only for my humble person, but even for my rear end in their (uni and transsex) toilet.

  20. Truthist

    Re ; The Religion that u dare not speak its name
    .
    Even the last part — “This is also reflected on it’s relentless demands of supression of female emotion.” — signifies that it is Judaism u speak of.
    .
    Well, this would be so were one not to know of Hitchens bias for his own ethnic background & bias against the latest religion to begin in the Middle East.
    .
    So, no, it is Islam that u speak of.
    I too have my misgivings about aspects of Islam.
    But, I assure u that true Judaism is even more severe than the severest of Islam against wrongdoers.
    .
    YES !
    .
    Noahide Laws ARE MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN Sharia Law
    .
    And, the Noahide Laws are now written into the USA Constitution
    .
    Google.com results for search terms ;
    .
    Noahide Law AND USA Constitution
    .
    .
    https://www.google.com/search?dcr=0&ei=AmEpWt2CFoKU0gSXkZGoDQ&q=Noahide+Law+AND+USA+Constitution&oq=Noahide+Law+AND+USA+Constitution&gs_l=psy-ab.3…27689.31001.0.31729.11.9.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..11.0.0….0.3b0JWYrvIEI
    .
    .
    But, if u come to think that the Noahide Laws are the meanest baddest laws, climb the humbling & shocking learning curve which is getting to know about TALMUDIC LAW.
    .
    .
    Genetically speaking ;
    .
    The original Hibernians were the Iberos / Hiberos / Hebrews ;
    Tribe of Dan / Tuatha De Danann
    And, then supplanted by the Milesians.
    Most of the pre-Viking & pre-Norman names are Hebrew.
    Even the Patronyms “O’” & “Mac / Mc” ; Phonetically speaking of course.
    .
    By the way, Trump’s mother comes from Hebri-des.
    .
    The purest of the tribes of Israel are now The Samaritans
    .
    The next purest of the tribes of Israel are … The Palestinians.
    .
    After that, the Sephardic Jews.
    .
    The Ashkenazi Jews are of mixed European & Khazar & Judaic origin.
    .
    Of course, the House of Saud are Jewish ;
    And, the Arabs have never trusted that they converted to Islam.
    The House of Saud were set up by the British with Lawerence of Arabia [ secretly Anglo-Irish + Jewish ] to rule a large chunk of Arabia
    .
    Wahabbi Islam is a British / “City of London” invention for to from the beginning :
    justify False Flags
    terrorise the Muslims
    control the inhabitants dominated by the Wahabbists
    divide & conquer the Muslims
    fool the other G–u–ys 8-)
    .
    There is much speculation as to whether Trump is indeed the son of a Jew ;
    Part of what we do know for certain about Trump’s paternal background is that his grandfather was a Brothel Owner.
    And, apparently Papa Trump too.
    .
    it is strongly suggested that Mama Trump worked in one of Papa Trump’s legacy businesses before she married Papa Trump.

    Anyway, there is no doubt that Trump mimself is Jewish.

    So, just to clarify ;
    Trump is NOT a Jew ; Impossible to be a Jew unless ur mother is a Jew.
    But, Trump is Jewish.
    .

  21. Truthist

    @ Grzegorz,

    I mentioned this great BBC drama series to u before ;
    .
    “The Detective”
    .
    The lead character Police Commander Crocker is an English man of Polish heritage ;
    A fact which the viewer is often reminded of with occasional deep interest he indulges into his family tree.
    Even his wife remarks upon this habitual practise of his.
    .
    Also, that angle — SEXUAL LICENTIOUSNESS [ e.g.s orgies & pedophilia ( But, "Deviance" the more fitting category name for the latter ) ] that I am emphasizing is at play in Irish State-North East of Ireland-Scotland-England+Wales & EU & thence NATO political maneuvering is the subject matter of this engrossing & tense & educative drama.
    .
    .
    TRUST ME VERY MUCH ABOUT THE IRISH ACTORS INVOLVED IN PRESENT NEGOTIATIONS ;
    incl.
    ON THE WINGS
    .
    .
    AND, UNDERSTAND WHEN SOMEONE SEEKS TO INTERFERE SO AS TO “POLICE” & “CENSOR” FOR EWE KNOW WHO
    8-)
    .
    .
    I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
    AND, I CAN READILY PRODUCE FOLKS RELIABLE ON THESE MATTERS FOR TO CORROBORATE.

  22. mike flannelly

    Tripadvisor index – Kilkenny 176 restaurants to Armagh 43 Restaurants.

    Immigration index – Rep of Irl 1 to 6 ratio , NI 1 to 100 ratio.

    Average wage index – Rep of Irl 39,873e , NI 23,700e.

    Health Care Index

    Nurse/bed ratio as per oecd report –

    Ireland. 4.5 nurses to 1 bed

    UK. 2.9 nurses to 1 bed

    Spain. 1.7 nurses to 1 bed

    France 1.5 nurses to 1 bed

    Tonight on RTE Dr Andy Jordan tells us that us that if every GP in the country identified 10 patients for the Cross Border Healthcare Directive 30,000 patients would be taken off the waiting lists.

    Spain spend 2100 euro per capita

    Ireland spend 3800 euro per capita

    Restaurant index is more important to us.

    • Truthist

      Spain. 1.7 nurses to 1 bed

      France 1.5 nurses to 1 bed

      Mathematically, humans being discrete ;
      ==> Chaste on-the-job
      .
      ………………………………….
      .
      Ireland. 4.5 nurses to 1 bed

      UK. 2.9 nurses to 1 bed

      Mathematically, humans being discrete ;
      ==> Mischievous on-the-job
      .
      And, they are seeking even more nurses per bed
      .
      INSATIABLE !
      .
      …………………………………………………
      .
      Irish medical system & most of personnel have contempt for the patient & their guardians.
      .
      .
      They only interested in :

      their currency

      &

      other exploitation of the patient according as they wish.
      .
      .
      Really, they in their vocation just to collect their wages & extras.
      .
      But, they have perfected play-acting & ollagoling [ makey-up spelling by me of Irish idiom ] for :
      more cosy shop conditions
      more lulla.
      .
      THERE STILL ARE SOME DECENT FOLK IN BOTH PRIVATE & PUBLIC MEDICAL SCENE THOUGH.

  23. mike flannelly

    Spain spend 2100 euro per capita

    Ireland spend 3800 euro per capita

    on health care.

    Ireland and their im alright JACK public sector unions expect NI , France and Spain to be their healthcare subcontractors.

    Put it on the national debt tab .
    Resources are measureable in any snapshot of time.

  24. Soft/hard border for Ulster throws spanner in the negotiations between UK and EU

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/04/juncker-and-may-fail-to-reach-brexit-deal-amid-dup-doubts-over-irish-border

    Whatever deal is special for NI gets a me too echo from Scotland and London/southeast.

  25. Truthist

    “NAZIs” WERE IN ALLIANCE WITH “ZIONISTs” IN WW2 ANYWAY ;
    .
    .
    Henry Makow? @HenryMakow
    .
    HEADING ;
    Jewesss Chelsea Handler, Who Calls Trump A Nazi, Finds Out Her Grandfather Was Actual Nazi
    .
    10:15 am – 9 Dec 2017
    .
    .
    https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/939559169006321664

  26. Truthist

    HERE IS A SCOOP ON ANTI-IRISH NATIONALISM JOURNALIST Kevin Myers / “Kevin My-Arse”
    [ Ref. The Phoenix satire magazine's nickname for him ]
    .
    .
    HEADING ;
    Acclaimed journalist Kevin Myers on how ultra-Zionist hate groups destroyed his career
    .
    .

    The Ritchie Allen Show
    .
    .
    Dec 7, 2017
    .
    .
    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=162437

  27. “And speaking of Russia (where contrary to Russian propaganda for the useful idiots in the West, Islam – and not Christianity – is the main religion), I guess you’ve missed that bit of news too: it is now ILLEGAL in Russia to conduct Bible studies at homes, and the Russian police and their so-called courts are PERSECUTING people who gather at their OWN homes to read the Bible, or hand it out – the so-called “Yarovaya package” which forbids Bible studies outside the State-controlled (read: FSB/KGB controlled) buildings.”

    This caught my eye Grzegorz

    I googled religion in modern Russia.
    What appeared is an essay that states that The eastern orthodox christianity has the backing of the state and that all other christian sects and religions, although they are not specifically named, are taboo and adherents will be turned in reported on and punished by the active police state.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/europe/2017/10/putin-triumph-christianity-russia-171018073916624.html

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      Yes, there is this tabooing of Bible readings as mentioned in the link; and in spite of all that backing of the state that the Orthodox church (in reality: a network of informers – one of the reasons they didn’t completely do away with the Orthodox church in the USSR was because they thought it’s better to put KGB people in its top positions – like KGB officer Kyril – and that way get the information out of people they wouldn’t give to anyone else but orthodox popes), according to Orthodox Church own data, only 3pc of Russia’s population participated in this year’s Orthodox Churches Easter celebrations, while over 20pc attended mosques. Perhaps the number is higher than 3pc, but they knew that the Russian Orthodox Church is basically a KGB operation; however, this doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority of Russians are atheists; this is reflected in Russian abortion rates (per 1000 women ages 15-39, most recent data):

      Poland 2014 0.14
      Ireland 2015 4.09
      Tunisia 2009 6.40
      Israel 2014 13.85
      United States 2015 17.13
      United Kingdom 2015 20.21
      Sweden 2015 25.35
      PR China 2012 26.07 (ROC Taiwan 2015 7.84)
      Russia 2014 37.28

      Don’t confuse Putin’s support to his KGB/FSB run Orthodox Church with a support to Christianity and the Bible (I’m yet to find a video with Putin quoting passages from the Bible) – the article says:
      “Alexander Dugin, editor-in-chief of Russia’s most ultra-conservative Orthodox channel” – and Dugin is a satanist, not a Christian:

      this is when Dugin speaks – sadly, in Russian only (but I can testify this is what it means) – “where we are is the inside of the hell”:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYZSFgAwsYg

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjoIRTzMfHw

      Bear in mind that YouTube is removing those links (they removed the Polish Ministry link about the “refugees” and how Europe is now tacitly acknowledging that Poland was right on that), so you might want to download them.

      ________________________________________________________________

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrKN2Z4gdtE

      Bear in mind that according to prophecies that the Bible contains, Israel as a whole will convert as the last, and the “stupid Israel” described in the Bible is stupid in a sense that it’s an Israel who doesn’t not recognise the Messiah (traditionally, Israeli orthodox schooling was geared towards inciting hatred to Christianity and portraying Jesus as the false Messiah; there has been a documentary made when a reported was walking the streets of Israel and reading the orthodox Jews passage from the Old Testament prophecising the coming of Jesus – and practically all of them heard it for the first time! – this is the Old Testament, mind you, so you would think they should have had it in school – one of them even cried how wrong he had been schooled; it’s the same in the western world right now – you hear less and less from the Bible in the Catholic Church and from the Anti-Pope; only those passages that don’t pose any danger to NWO – i.e., I’m yet to find a Catholic who knows the Acts – to me, this and the Apocalypse are the most interesting parts of the Bible – and that even includes the priests! – and the Irish priests know the Bible even less than the Polish).

      But recently, which is probably also unknown to you, a lot of Israelis convert to Christianity (there are 169,000 Christians in Israel right now!) and acknowledge that they have been wrong for all those centuries – and if Netanyahu, with his past, converted (and converting looks like he did – it’s Netanyahu, not Putin, who has Bible studies in his office – and it would be unthinkable that he would have done something like that 10 years ago), then perhaps the end of times is near…
      Btw, he reminded the fact that is usually silenced by the western media – it’s the Christians, not Muslims, who are the most persecuted religion in the world.

  28. Truthist

    David finally talking about Crypto-Currencies / Cyber-Currencies
    .
    .
    HEADING ;
    David McWilliams on four very expensive words:
    ‘This time it’s different’
    Bitcoin and financial markets are rising disturbingly fast.
    Let’s not forget our history
    .
    .
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/david-mcwilliams-on-four-very-expensive-words-this-time-it-s-different-1.3319540?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fdavid-mcwilliams-on-four-very-expensive-words-this-time-it-s-different-1.3319540

    • Truthist

      Authoritative source is in effect telling to u that Adam Byrne is a Millionaire in USA $ terms on the make.
      .
      .
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0V_9rm3TJ8

      • Greetings from Venice – on my honeymoon. Cold here – missus just saw the first real snow of her life this afternoon. Expensive too – 50 Euros for 2 vodka and tonics last night. Beautiful place though, fascinating and sophisticated.

        I see David’s next article is about Bitcoin – I hope he did his research.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          I thought you already had your honeymoon a couple of months ago – did you marry again?!
          “Expensive too – 50 Euros for 2 vodka and tonics last night.” – strike me pink!!! – that’s more expensive than any club in Dublin I know – but surely that’s some top venue, not average price in Venice?! Or maybe it’s different for tourists…

  29. Truthist

    DNA Studies Results for all of Ireland with reference to :
    Scotland
    England
    Wales
    France
    Norway
    Spain

    inter alia

  30. Truthist

    @ Grzegorz,

    Apropos of ur report that ;
    .
    [ Deep State of Russia > Dugin > ] Putin has already recognised Jerusalem as Israel’s capital in April 2017
    .
    .
    Are they trying to f..k with our heads with this ;
    .
    EXCERPT ;
    “…The United States’ recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital “defies common sense,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Friday.
    .
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday he was “deeply concerned” by Washington’s decision to recognize Jerusalem. … ”
    .
    .
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-trumps-jerusalem-declaration-defies-common-sense/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
    .
    .
    ALSO, HERE IS 1 OF THE “PUBLIC-RELATED” REACTIONS :
    .
    .
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.827864
    .
    .
    Certain reactions I contend are :
    .
    just for show ;
    As indeed I suspect the Impasse from bosum / bum buddies of Negotiators “Irish State” & “Grumpy Theologians of NEOI” & “Whitehall + Downing Street”
    By the way, nice handshake there in the main photo of Haaretz article above between the cousins 8-)
    .
    pathetic exploitation ;
    Palestinians should cease ALL physically violent actions
    Instead, they should be much more IMAGINATIVE
    Not least because of the loss of innocent life to both sides.
    HAMAS of course are tool of Israel.
    Ditto IRA & INLA — even without many members knowing it — were / are tool of … The Internationale.

    • Where East may meet West

      “We reaffirm our commitment to the UN-approved principles for a Palestinian-Israeli settlement, which include the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state,” the ministry said.
      “At the same time, we must state that in this context we view West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.”

      http://thehill.com/policy/international/327673-russia-recognizes-jerusalem-as-israeli-capital

      • Truthist

        Good digging Tony.

        BTW ;
        I thought the link u gave from Griffin very good.
        Still, I distrust Griffin because he plagarised, & dampened down, Eustace Mullins’s “The Secrets of the Federal Reserve”.

        Another BTW ;
        Mullins contends that all religious wars are only “so-called religious” ;
        They are essentially about power & riches & / or revenge I presume too ].
        Certainly not about religion ever or so is the jist of what he says.[

      • Truthist

        I not gone rattling my head about the possibilities yet ;
        .
        It would be very difficult to compete with the following for imagination & wishful thinking methinketh ;
        .
        .
        Ref.
        Comment by “Brabantian” to article of title ;
        COMMENTS – CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS; WESTMINSTER SLEAZE; CAMILLA
        .
        .
        Brabantian
        .
        .
        10 December 2017 at 09:16

        Curiously, right-wing and neo-Nazi sites are celebrating the ‘Jerusalem is Israel’s capital’ move, as a very clever judo move by Trump to in fact destroy Israeli and Jewish influence in the world

        They are pointing (with laughter sometimes) to the violent attacks on synagogues etc as proof that ‘Trump’s clever plan’ is working

        Some Jewish voices even agree, having predicted this kind of action by Trump some months ago.

        This argument – from Israel Shamir, or Gilad Atzmon ? don’t recall exactly – is that Trump, who knows the Jewish mentality well, having spent his entire career amidst it, from his earliest days with Meyer Lansky’s friend Roy Cohn – is that Trump’s gambit is to pretend to give Israeli Jews what they want, Jerusalem as the capital, annexing more of the West Bank etc

        With the idea being to use Jewish acquisitiveness and over-reach, as the successful judo feint to make Israel fall … with the idea that – as seems to be happening – Trump’s ‘pro-Israel’ move, provokes such a huuge reaction, that the world community will more quickly move to declare racial-law Israel an apartheid state, and isolate it as a pariah, & that even in the USA Jewish influence will implode, to Trump’s secret pleasure.

        There is a notion that, as ‘friendly’ as Trump has always been to Jews along with being deeply involved with them, Trump is ultimately resentful of catering to Jews over his decades of casino and real estate business, going back to his early partnership with Meyer Lansky’s friend Roy Cohn

        A related idea is that Trump also suits his agenda by further angering Muslims, and giving more fuel to the ‘mad Muslims’ stereotype … the idea that Trump is shaking the table in order to let mid-east dominoes fall into conflict, Israel with its neighbours & the various Muslim factions & communities against each other … the USA already is regarded badly in the Muslim world, there is not really that much more deeper it can sink in Muslim opinion

        The Muslim anger every day in the media, can be used to buttress Trump’s anti-immigration, ring-fence-the-Anglo-culture positioning, as the world watches mid-East nations escalate conflict out of what is being portrayed as their inner nature. The theory is that Trump is lighting up the mid-East on purpose, as the best tool Trump has to demolish both Jewish influence, and the Islamist-fellow-traveller ‘progressives’ in the West.
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        http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/12/comments-christian-zionists-westminster.html#comment-form

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “Are they trying to f..k with our heads with this” – no, this is very simple: recognising Jerusalem as Israeli capital is good when Putin does it, bad when Trump does it – same as Trump selling weapons to Saudi Arabia is bad, but Putin selling weapons to Saudi Arabia is good.

      • Truthist

        Again, my general situation renders difficulties for me in composing posts & attending to research too.
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        I have sampled most of ur links thus far ;
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        Gems indeed !
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        Ironically enought, our present line of discussion — biblical & all — is real meaty economics.
        .
        Eustace Mullins also said ;
        If we truly living as Christ wished ;
        ==> NO need for Money [ Gold & just-about so ... Silver ] ;
        Because, we would be all helping each other without seeking payment of any type.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          Don’t listen to him – that’s why I said that you should read the Bible you are insufficiently familiar with – starting with the Acts and the Apocalypse. Had you read Acts, you’d have known that the Apostles tried no-money economy in their own community and it didn’t work, and why.
          Your time spent on reading the Bible would have been much better spent than reading about Rothschilds (I think we know enough about them already to have formed an opinion).

          You have a tendency that sometimes really irritates me that you quote some anecdotal evidence “he said that…” instead of the primary sources (these people usually only pretend to know something about it, as I proved with Muslims IQ and “no need for money” according to some Eustace Mullins.

          As to the Old Testament, you are wrong again that Church was advising not to read it – corrupt and satanic elements in the Church (like the General of Jesuits, who in the 18th century said his word is above the word of Christ, or the Anti-Pope Francis, who wrote a pro-ecological encyclic for Soros’ money) are/were saying that – however, Breviarium Fidei not only orders Catholics to read the Old Testament, but also to take it literary.

          Btw – you missed the most interesting books of the OT (with prophecies): Daniel, Isaac, Ezekiel.

          I hope that from now on, you will stop being a false witness to the word of God and asserting that Tanakh – a source text for Catholic and Protestant Bible translations – is a twisted word of God (mixing it up with Torah or Talmud) and relating it to Judaism – especially after watching that third video link.

          Prophecy about Israel in Ezekiel, about its scattering for its sins, about its restoration, and about its final conversion (this prophecy is also repeated in other books of OT, as well as the NT):

          “5 Thus saith the Lord God; This is Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries that are round about her.

          6 And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.

          7 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because ye multiplied more than the nations that are round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the nations that are round about you;

          8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.

          9 And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations.

          10 Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments in thee, and the whole remnant of thee will I scatter into all the winds.

          11 Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord God; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity.

          12 A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them.

          13 Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the Lord have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them.

          14 Moreover I will make thee waste, and a reproach among the nations that are round about thee, in the sight of all that pass by.

          15 So it shall be a reproach and a taunt, an instruction and an astonishment unto the nations that are round about thee, when I shall execute judgments in thee in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I the Lord have spoken it.

          16 When I shall send upon them the evil arrows of famine, which shall be for their destruction, and which I will send to destroy you: and I will increase the famine upon you, and will break your staff of bread:

          17 So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, and they shall bereave thee: and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the Lord have spoken it.”

          Ezekiel 6

          “6 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

          2 Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them,

          3 And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord God; Thus saith the Lord God to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.

          4 And your altars shall be desolate, and your images shall be broken: and I will cast down your slain men before your idols.

          5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars.

          6 In all your dwellingplaces the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished.

          7 And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

          8 Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries.

          9 And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils which they have committed in all their abominations.

          10 And they shall know that I am the Lord, and that I have not said in vain that I would do this evil unto them.

          11 Thus saith the Lord God; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence.

          12 He that is far off shall die of the pestilence; and he that is near shall fall by the sword; and he that remaineth and is besieged shall die by the famine: thus will I accomplish my fury upon them.

          13 Then shall ye know that I am the Lord, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols.

          14 So will I stretch out my hand upon them, and make the land desolate, yea, more desolate than the wilderness toward Diblath, in all their habitations: and they shall know that I am the Lord.”

          11
          “11 Moreover the spirit lifted me up, and brought me unto the east gate of the Lord’s house, which looketh eastward: and behold at the door of the gate five and twenty men; among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azur, and Pelatiah the son of Benaiah, princes of the people.

          2 Then said he unto me, Son of man, these are the men that devise mischief, and give wicked counsel in this city:

          3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh.

          4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man.

          5 And the Spirit of the Lord fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the Lord; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.

          6 Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the streets thereof with the slain.

          7 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and this city is the caldron: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it.

          8 Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith the Lord God.

          9 And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you.

          10 Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

          11 This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:

          12 And ye shall know that I am the Lord: for ye have not walked in my statutes, neither executed my judgments, but have done after the manners of the heathen that are round about you.

          13 And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord God! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?

          14 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

          15 Son of man, thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the Lord: unto us is this land given in possession.

          16 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.

          17 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.

          18 And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.

          19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

          20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

          21 But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord God.”

          So if you deny that Israel, after great suffering and great wretchedness, will eventually convert (and that some Israelis – albeit few – have already converted – according to the Bible it won’t after the Armageddon when all remaining convert) – then you deny the word of God. Who are you to deny that, if you haven’t even studied the Bible (OT + NT, who replaced the old laws of the OT, but maintained all prophecies of the OT) properly?

          _________________________________________________________

          Having a surgery tomorrow so won’t be responding and devoting my time to you to explain to you the BASICS of the Christian faith.

          You have to use your own judment, and not be as naive as you somtimes are, i.e. with Putin statements. You really have that tendency to fall into that propaganda narrative that their bullshit “independent me arse” STATE-OWNED stations RT and Sputnik write; plus their agent of influence Paul “broken record” Craig Red Star Roberts.

          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-saudi-arabia-missiles-deal-sell-s-400-putin-air-defence-latest-a7997986.html

          http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/analysis-drone-deals-highlight-military-ties-between-israel-and-russia-24061368

          https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-historic-first-russia-recognizes-west-jerusalem-as-israels-capital/

  31. “Whether the biblical passages are an history account or a prophecy depends on when the narrative was written. Remember it is all written by the hand of man. Politics rule. Follow the money. Two adages worth remembering.

    “I envy you that you are probably enjoying a Polish-like dry, snowy winter – Met Eireann has been predicting heavy snow, but all we got was a f…g rain all night (it has been very dark all day – like at early dawn! – so much so that I have to have a light on in the kitchen – so maybe that indicates that a snow will finally fall – OMG – it started falling just as I am writing this! – but no: it’s melting, so it’s sleet :-( ) – though the Sally Gap was impassable in the morning due to snow.”

    I live in a unique part of canada, with a rain shadow from all directions, where snow is unusual. Loosely termed it is Northern Mediterranean. We have warm dry summers and cool damp winters with over 2000 hours of annual sunshine.
    Nov was the usual rain but Dec so far is cold 0-5C but dry. Today is 6 and sunny.

  32. terence patrick hewett

    If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.

  33. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    This is a powerful scene that I hope you will enjoy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTdHDVeeXYE

  34. Truthist

    Would Irish State facilitate North East of Ireland [ NEOI ] similarly ?
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    https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/940340064802017280

  35. Truthist

    @ Grzegorz,
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    EWE MAY WELL BE RIGHT WITH UR THESIS AS TO THE SELF-CHOSENITES GOING CHRISTIANMany a true sentiment is said in jest ;
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    From “Beth Midler” no less
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    8-)
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    https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/940259422370070528
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    …………………………………………………..
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    And, note that Beth Midler hosts this reply too ;
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    https://twitter.com/4seasonspix/status/940510524558553088
    .

  36. Truthist

    This is what Irish State-North East of Ireland-Britain[-EU-NATO ] round table discussions was really negotiating 8-) [ "FINE-TUNING" ] ;
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    THEIR VERSION OF ;
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-42248056/in-your-face-china-s-all-seeing-state
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    I TOLD YEE SOME MONTHS AGO THAT “THE PHOTO ID CARD + ASSOCIATED DATABASE CONSPIRACY OF IRISH STATE” IS THE MOST IMPORTANT + SINISTER ISSUE HAPPENING NOW AGAINST THE IRISH CITIZENS.
    AND, IT WILL ALSO BE OPERATING ON BOTH CATHOLICS & Our Grumpy Theologian Brethren IN North East of Ireland [ NEOI ] ;
    Certainly every time they interact with the Border.

    ANYWAY, I TRUST THAT BRITS HAVE ALL OF NEOI POPULACE CATALOGED FOR THIS PART OF ORWELLIAN REGIME ALREADY.
    And, each new entrant;s [ Child, & migrant, & immigrant ] Biometrics + Biography being quickly swooped up into the system.
    .

  37. Truthist

    This website is visually attractive ;

    It has some useful info.

    But, in my very brief perusal I discover that some hyper-links do not work ;
    Perhaps this will be remedied.

    Anyway, here is a Time-Line which includes mention of :

    earliest known inhabitants of Ireland

    Darwinism claims for origin of human beings ;
    Thus, contrary to the Bible ;
    Nathanyahoo’s super slim bible even.
    A bible which hints of being Luddite
    vis.
    No Gospels

    Within this website the frequent dangers that lurk in public swimming pools in Netherlands inter alia is highlighted

    https://isgp-studies.com/world-history-in-timelines

  38. A treatise on how to regain individual sovereignty.

    “The main tool used against We the People, is the fiat currency in nations around the world. These instruments of debt are the main source of power and control by TriEvil. If we move with one unified message – Hacking at the Root – we can take back our sovereignty and regain our freedom.”

    https://thedailycoin.org/2017/12/12/taking-back-our-sovereignty-and-hacking-at-the-root-of-trievil/

    • Not sure about the validity of the second link as it is 6 years old. :-)

      • Truthist

        Sorry about that ;

        By the way ;

        The thought occurred to me ;

        Bitcoin — knowing that it not Money ; Because it lacks 1 or more of the essential qualities of Money — is arguably NOT Currency either NOW ;

        Because, Bitcoin is NOT functioning as Medium of Exchange ;

        All owners, I logically expect, are retaining all their Bitcoin with hope that it continue to rise in value until it worth $ 1 million.

        //////////////////////////////////////////////////

        Why not the core posters of this Blog create our own Cyber-Currency / Crypto-Currency ? ;

        And, it the best format vis-a-vis any other such currency ?

        • https://thedailycoin.org/2017/12/12/taking-back-our-sovereignty-and-hacking-at-the-root-of-trievil/

          Read this if you have not yet done so (posted above) as it gives examples of what we can all do to thwart the current fiat currency scam.

          There are allegedly 200,000 venues that accept BC as payment in exchange for goods.

          one can now buy BC or ethereum with cash at goldmoney.com. It allows a trade from cryptos to PM via fiat. Silver coins in hand will do well for anyone from now on. They can be spent even when the power is out or the liquidity pipeline plugged.

          • Truthist

            I 1/2 way through reading it & then put it on hold until later in the day ;
            U post it again ;
            But, with mention that it relevant to my post.
            OK
            Will read it with extra vigour.

            Problem ;
            I have no spare currency every month.

            All along I am by conspiracy being denied my entitlements by :
            Private Persons
            Civil Servants / Public Servants
            Private Persons + Civil Servants / Public Servants

            And, also, I have over most of my life being kept down by the same categories of persons & organisations ;
            Thus, not able to really advance in my life & careers.

            Irish State is NOT a “bankable country.

            e.g.

            I am central to the 1 of the most valuable contiguous pieces of central business district city real estate in Irish State ;
            ==> Ditto of E.U.
            And, following death of my father, solicitor handling the estate has NEVER contacted me.
            And, my email address known to those he conspiring with.
            And, they all know that I homeless & homeless + roofless when in Irish State ;
            And, this completely through no fault of my own ;
            But, rather at the hands of the above categories ;
            Of which some of the conspirators mentioned are.
            .
            I HAVE SO MUCH TO TELL 8-)
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            I AM MORE VALUABLE THAN GOLD 8-)

          • Truthist

            Were I to have funds, I would have bought Bitcoin way back along, & continuously into the now.
            Thus, I would be very rich now.

            But, alas, I am being continuously victimised.

            BUT, I HAVE SO MUCH PRECIOUS INFORMATION TO TELL 8-)

  39. Truthist

    @ Grzegorz,

    Cozy Shop “Irish State” AND Cozy Shop “North East of Ireland [ NEOI ]”
    both
    conduct
    the
    following
    Orwellian Tactics
    which
    this
    Politician [ Dail Eireann TD ( Labour Party ) ]
    is
    highlighting
    about
    the
    Garda-Landlords / Landlord-Gardai
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    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/alan-kelly-queries-if-gardai-bugged-phone-464431.html

  40. Truthist

    I am cynical about Trump even before he got elected / put into office as President ;
    And, he has no affinity for Ireland.
    But, his mother did.

    Still, the following is something to be very thankful for because of the Trump phenomenon ;

    THE TWEET ;

    Henry Makow?
    @HenryMakow

    Whatever Trump really represents, his election can be compared to turning over a rock and seeing the slugs in gov’t, media and law, liberals who have subverted the nation, scurry in a frenzy.

    https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/941035800862617600

  41. Truthist

    Again, … on-topic & interesting ;

    http://www.orwellianireland.com/

  42. mike flannelly

    Truthist,
    Just trying to tease out the transfer scenarios for the Basic Income economic model.
    Everyone would have to contribute 8 hrs public sector duty.
    4 million would recieve 74bn ( approx 18,000e each basic income/ safety needs income) + public sector housing.

    Would 18,000e become the median income?

    People could work for improved houses, education, holidays and cars .

    There would still be inequality.

    The person that wants to work, pay a mortgage, not smoke, drink less and look after their health probably should be unequal.

    People should be helped.
    Not sure about equal.

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