April 24, 2017

In France, feelings trump figures

Posted in Irish Independent · 192 comments ·

There’s nothing better than a glass of sugary coca cola the chilly morning after too many Côte du Rhônes to clear the head. I’m in Paris about to head south to Marseilles trying to make sense of this fascinating French election and, more to the point, trying to understand why financial markets are — up to now — so sanguine, given the enormity of what is at stake.


Even before the shooting of a policeman on Thursday, this election was up in the air with polls saying Le Pen on the Right and Mélenchon on the Left were in with a chance of going through to the next round. If either of these two were to win the Presidential election outright, France would veer off on an economic and political course that would have dramatic implications for Ireland. The centrist Macron remains in the lead and widely expected to beat Le Pen in the second round.


France is the 6th largest economy in the world, a world leader in many sectors, with income per head of close to €40,000. But in common with other Latin countries in Europe, it has an unemployment problem. General unemployment remains in double digits and this figure rises to 26% amongst French youth. Latest polls indicated that the youth have become radicalized, with 38% saying that they will vote for the National Front.


This election is not about economics.


Although economists might beg to differ, feelings not figures win elections.


And this election, like so many others in the West in the past year, is about feelings. The “who are we” question has propelled itself to centre stage.


As in the UK and the US with Brexit and Trump, inequality and perceptions of inequality are a recurrent theme, with the populist Right and Left, identifying a metropolitan elite as being out of touch, cosseted and arrogant.


But the real issue is race and how France see itself.


Call it religion, identity, culture, ethnicity, call it what you will, but ultimately this “us and them” dimension makes the election so significant. It is now about Islam, terrorism, security, open borders and peace of mind.


When I say I’m in Paris, I’m actually in a part of Paris that visitors rarely frequent, sitting in the slightly down-at-heel café Le Khédive in Place Victor Hugo, just opposite the Basilica of St Denis. We are only a few hundred yards from the street where the “Bataclan” killers were eventually surrounded by French police in 2015. From this vantage point, it is not difficult to see the deep divisions in this French election.


Remember France is still under a state of national emergency following the attack in Nice last year, heightened again by Thursday’s Champs Elysees attack.


St Denis was the traditional burial place of the French kings. It is steeped in French history. It was here, in this basilica behind me, in 1492 where Joanne of Arc was blessed before marching out to face the English foe. In terms of France’s Catholic history, there are few holier sites. But today St Denis has the largest Muslim population of any French area. The Cathedral is empty, yet the Mosque is full.


We are only a few miles from the pomp and majesty of Quai D’Orsey, the Louvre and the millions that marvel at Paris every year, but this place it is a world away. There are precious few smiling tourists’ selfies taken here. Not only is St Denis home to a burgeoning young Muslim population, it also has the highest number of young African immigrants. The smells, sounds and colours of the bustling morning market are more Marrakesh than Montmartre.


St Denis and hundreds of other suburbs like it all around the country are the front lines in an election that is about the heart of soul of France, what it means to be French and ultimately who is and who is not French.


As such, it is the natural successor to the nativist surge of Brexit and Trump, where feelings trumped figures; notions trumped facts and nostalgia defeated all. These popular insurrections are driven by nostalgia, a yearning for a lost time and place, somewhere just in the recent past, when things were better, more simple and more secure. Nostalgia means when Trump says “Make America Great Again” he is referring to an idealized America, not so long ago when the United States was great. He wants to lead his people into the future by taking them back to somewhere. Similarly, when the Brexiteers said “Take Back Control” they imply a mythical somewhere, again not so long ago, when Britons had control. The UK referendum was an opportunity to go back to those times before control was given away by someone to someone else.


In France, the National Front has their similar elegiac rallying cry “On est chez nous” they respond at mass rallies to Madame Le Pen, meaning, “this is our place”. The casual almost colloquial use of “our place” rather than the more abrupt and pompous like “our country”, gives the message a comforting, homely, common-sense feel, in the same way as you’d ask mates to come back to “your place” after the pub, rather than the more formal “your house”. It’s friendly and exclusive at the same time.


The battle comes down to a vision of France. One is a cosmopolitan vision of an open, deracinated, post-Catholic European France. The other is a nationalist, closed, but sovereign France, comfortable with its heritage, operating in its own self-interest, within a significantly altered European Union.


This cosmopolitan vs. nativist struggle will have profound effects on the economy, not just the French economy but also the European economy.


If Le Pen, or had he made it through the first round, Mélenchon were to win, they’d both try to take the French out of the Euro, close France’s borders to trade, capital movements and in Le Pen’s case, immigrants.


At the moment, the betting suggests that the centrist Macron is still favorite in a run-off against Le Pen and thus, the power of cosmopolitan France endures. Macron means more of the same. However, this won’t be enough because longer term, there is a sense that this country is on the decline. Such an economic backdrop will only encourage a more radical and more populist vision of France’s future.


Immigration isn’t going away, the EU isn’t about to become popular once more, the nativist trends Le Pen champions are evident everywhere and the ‘who are we” debate will just become louder.


Marine Le Pen is onto this and has time on her side. She is only 48, so she can sit in opposition, building her base and biding her time. She will be a sprightly 53 in 2022. With close to 40% of those between 18-24 saying that they will vote for Le Pen, the National Front could well be the party of the future.


As I consider this vista while paying for my coke, coffee and croissants here in Place Victor Hugo in St Denis, the sage political assessment of Hugo, the great 19th century French intellectual appear to be fittingly apt over a century later. It was Victor Hugo who after all summed up political upheavals when he intoned;


Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.



  1. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    Very good discussion on yesterday’s M. Finucane show on election in France and housing.

    I thought I’ll share this with all of you: first of all, Mr Colm Ó Tórna wrote an, in my opinion, e x c e l l e n t letter, in which he asked some questions that warrant a debate on the state of the post-modern Irish soul:


    Then, instead of having a rational debate, Mr Rob Sadlier of Rathfarnham (btw, place of my first settlement in Dublin), a well known Dublin solicitor with bad spelling (he writes “god” instead of “God”), claimed that Colm Ó Tórna is guilty of the “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” (‘after this, therefore because of this’) logical fallacy by linking post-Catholic progressivism to the increase of criminality. However, if he really knew anything about logic, he would have known that most of our reasoning, including scientific and legal, is not based on deduction, but on induaction (thus all scientific conclusions are tentative – including climate change and evolution theory); it is therefore perfectly rational to begin the investigation into causes based on correlations (i.e., correlation between smoking tobacco and lung cancer). Having demonstrated his blissful unawareness of the types of reasoning (if Mr Ó Tórna makes the “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”, then so does climate change science and evolution theory – yet Mr Sadlier doesn’t not advocate them being taken out of school on foot of them not being based on deduction), Mr Sadlier sallies forth to attack Mr Ó Tórna by rhetorical means: “Mr Ó Tórna’s blatantly tendentious form of reductionism”.

    I don’t require from solicitors that they should be aware of Bayesian inference or of disputes between Carnap and Popper on induction and deduction – which of course Mr Sadlier is not, and with all due respect, judging by his other letters, his knowledge of logic is rather shallow (he himself often makes logical mistakes in his letters) – though sufficient to be a good solicitor, I’ve no doubt; he should however be at least aware of works of David Hume (who argued that even inferring that the sun will rise tomorrow from the fact that we have been seeing the sun rising over the horizon every day does also fits into the “Post hoc, ergo propter hoc” logical fallacy – yet how could we live our lives if we were not to inductively infer it?), but they should at least be aware that the vast majority of Common Law is based on inductive, reductive and abductive reasoning.

    • Truthist

      “Correlation” versus “Cause & its Effect”

      When — logically speaking — can we say that the apparent Correlation is really “Cause & its Effect” ?

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        “Is really” is a question that in my opinion requires some clarification, although I do have to finish my blogging for today on that. Because what does “is really” means in this context? It means: what we can establish with certainty.
        The problem is that the whole development of philosophy of science in 20th century shows that unlike in logic and mathematics, nothing in science can be established with certainty.

        Mr Sadlier mixed up two orders, so to say, or domains:

        a) Realm of the languages of the deductive sciences (mathematics and logic, but not the obsolete logic he was tought for his bar exams, but advanced mathematical logic)

        b) Realm of all other science (including physics and biology, statistics, and most of our daily reasoning).

        uses deduction.
        uses a mixture of induction (and all other inductive reasonings in broader sense, such as reductionism he criticises without properly understanding this word) and deduction – but deduction is only a small part of it.

        So to answer your question, we can always a t t e m p t to, say, that such and such correlation (positive or negative) suffices for claiming that this warrants a “cause and its effect” hypothesis, it’s just that unlike in deduction, we cannot claim it with c e r t a i n t y.

        There have been ongoing disputes in philosophy of science in 20th century as to whether scientific reasoning is based on probability (induction) – Carnap, best explanation (induction) or it is a combination of deductive and reductive reasoning (Popper), but basically to jump from Mr Colm Ó Tórna’s reasoning into best explanation falls into the the “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” deductive fallacy shows that Mr Sadlier has absolutely no fucking clue of what he is writing about, and most of his letters betray this annoying patronising feature of pointing out errors in someone’s reasoning while he himself lack knowledge and mental capacity of being able to think rationally (his musings on God and evil would be perhaps impressive for a 12 year old – although I was reasoning like he in his letters when I was 8) – but not for a grown-up man, let alone someone being in charge of the secularisation-agenda group which preaches the Irish people what the universe and morality are all about.

        P.S. A question of causes in science and politics should not be confused with a question of causes in logic.
        Cause and effects in logic is a different thing, because it ESTABLISHED in a different way than purely deductive (in what way precisely, that’s a topic for a dispute – roughly, in ways I singled out above); and it is established in a different way, because mathematics and mathematical logic (and of course, all primitive logic Mr Sadlier uses can be fully described in mathematical logic terms) operate in DIFFERENT REAL than science does.

        In logic, we talk about causes by distinguishing them into two types: necessary and sufficient.

        Necessary causes
        If x is a necessary cause of y, then the presence of y necessarily implies the presence of x. The presence of x, however, does not imply that y will occur.

        Sufficient causes
        If x is a sufficient cause of y, then the presence of x necessarily implies the presence of y. However, another cause z may alternatively cause y. Thus the presence of y does not imply the presence of x.

        What Mr Sadlier really wanted to say (but lacked a proper language to say it) was that in his opinion, the negative correlation between the demise of religion in Ireland and the rise of criminality might have been a contributory cause (although he would probably deny even that), but neither necessary nor sufficient.

        But like I said, his understanding of logic is very shallow (for example, in pre-WWII Poland he would have failed A-level exam), so he repeated like a parrot what has been drummed into his mind:

        “Mr Colm Ó Tórna’s contention that there is a causal link between a fall in Catholicism and the commission of immoral acts suffers from a bad case of ‘reduction fallacy’ – ie a misguided attempt to ascribe a single cause to outcomes that are in reality complex interplays of many factors. ‘The Post hoc ergo propter hoc’ (‘after this, therefore because of this’ fallacy was used to brilliant comic effect by the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Minster to assert that a drop in the number of global pirates since the 1800s has caused global warming”

        - writes Mr Sadlier the Solicitor.


        If he had any clue about logic, he would have noticed that the logical structure of the sentence “a drop in the number of global pirates since the 1800s has caused global warming” is the same as “an increase in CO2 emmission has caused global warming”.

        Like I said, because these are inductive and not deductive statements, all scientific findings (so not statements of logics and mathematics) are tentative.


        Btw, J. L. Mackie (atheist himself) argues (in: Mackie, John L. “The Cement of the Universe: A study in Causation”; Clarendon Press, Oxford, England, 1988) that usual talk of “cause” in fact refers to INUS conditions (insufficient but non-redundant parts of a condition which is itself unnecessary but sufficient for the occurrence of the effect).

        An example is a short circuit as a cause for a house burning down. Consider the collection of events: the short circuit, the proximity of flammable material, and the absence of firefighters. Together these are unnecessary but sufficient to the house’s burning down (since many other collections of events certainly could have led to the house burning down, for example shooting the house with a flamethrower in the presence of oxygen and so forth). Within this collection, the short circuit is an insufficient (since the short circuit by itself would not have caused the fire) but non-redundant (because the fire would not have happened without it, everything else being equal) part of a condition which is itself unnecessary but sufficient for the occurrence of the effect. So, the short circuit is an INUS condition for the occurrence of the house burning down.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          “the negative correlation between the demise of religion in Ireland and the rise of criminality” – ehm, since it is a demise, it’s a positive correlation in this case.

          Like the great romantic Polish poet Juliusz Slowacki (Pierre Teilhard de Chardin copied his views!) wrote:

          “All I mean is the pliant tongue
          To speak all what a mind may come across
          And sometimes to be like a thunder quick and fulgent (ew. bright and nimble)
          And sometimes sad as a steppe’s melodious noise
          And sometimes to be soft as nymph’s complaint
          And sometimes splendid as the angels’ voice
          So that it will cross by wing whole spir-it
          And the verse ought to be a tact instead of a bit”.

          Btw, Mr Sadlier’s reasoning (his irrational jump into “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”) would have been rational if he was inferring about a
          s i n g l e person (such as in a crime case).

          But like I said, he does not dig logic.

        • Truthist

          Grzegorz Kolodziej
          April 10, 2017 at 2:19 pm

          U edified many with authoritative support for a phenomenon which many of us :

          know from experience often occurs with pro-active efforts by the supplier to create the demand
          know from experience often occurs without any pro-active efforts by the supplier to create the demand


          Say’s Law.

          For our ease, u gave it the following definition ;
          “Supply creates its own demand”.

          But, Investopedia.com corrects the above definition ;

          Say’s Law Of Markets

          What is the ‘Say’s Law Of Markets’

          The Say’s law of markets is an economic rule that says that production is the source of demand.
          According to Say’s Law, when an individual produces a product or service, he gets paid for that work, and is then able to use that pay to demand other goods and services.

          BREAKING DOWN ‘Say’s Law Of Markets’

          Say’s Law is frequently misinterpreted as “supply creates its own demand,”
          That is evidently false.
          If it were true, anyone could do whatever they wanted for a living and be successful at it.

          Ur post above ;

          “In logic, we talk about causes by distinguishing them into two types:

          necessary cause
          sufficient cause

          Necessary causes
          If x is a necessary cause of y, then the presence of y necessarily implies the presence of x.
          The presence of x, however, does not imply that y will occur.

          Sufficient causes
          If x is a sufficient cause of y, then the presence of x necessarily implies the presence of y.
          However, another cause z may alternatively cause y.
          Thus the presence of y does not imply the presence of x.”

          Apropos of Investepedia’s definition of Say’s Law, I trust that ;
          Supply is a “Sufficient Cause” of Demand

          But, … it may be more complicated than that.


          Anyway, I believe that Say’s Law will be anathema to the Public Relations & Marketing sector.
          They benefit themselves commerically very much by engaging in protracted investigation of what the market really want.
          And, the market most times is mainly women.
          Can these doyens of verbiage ever get to know what women really want ?

        • coldblow

          Interesting, Grzegorz.

          As I keep saying, my approach is psychology (that I have worked out almost entirely by myself) rather than trained logic and philosophy.

          “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” is for me little more than the latest fashionable cliché. These pop up every three or four weeks and everyone falls over each other to use it.

          Its use in argument is no different to the use of proverbs in olden times. Ó Cadhain wrote about this. One saying would be met by another old saw until one or the other ran out of them and the argument was settled.

          Sadlier’s argument sounds like a variation, or rather an imperfect imitation, of the old liberal arguments in the England of my young adulthood: ‘crime, far from rising, is actually falling so this is another myth’ or ‘educational standards in comprehensive schools, far from falling as the right-wing myth-mongers would have us believe, are actually rising’. At least over there the pretence has been quietly dropped while they try to think up something else, say “Populism! Populism!” or (quite without irony, albeit striving for ironic effect (which they believe sounds intelligent) trying to turn Trump’s phrase back upon himself), “fake news”. At least they have stopped droning on about ‘postmodernism’ (whatever the heck that is). When I first began university the favourite parroted word was ‘semantics’.

          These people think they are so very clever when they master a new phrase like ‘correlation is not causation’.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Within the context of what we have said, it is funny that the Humanist Association of Ireland” writes about its member, the venerable Mr Sadlier:

            “HAI member Rob Sadlier has been busy in the media recently – see his piece ‘We Gave Our Schools and Never Got Them Back’ in the Irish Independent”.

            He is indeed, he is a prolific writer of letters to newspapers Dr Kevin Carthy of Kinsale/Dr Munjed Farid Al Qutob-style, all touching on the same topic: baptism, God (or “god” as he writes), Inquisition (of which he knows fuck all) and theodicy (of which he knows even less). I have to say that having taken a 6 months course in the law department on the legal systems of Nazi Germany and fascist Italy, I have studied many speeches and writings of Adolf Hitler very carefully (I also read “Mein Kampf” both in English and in German), and Hitler was not e v e n n e a r AS obsessed with the Jews or Slavs as Mr Sadlier is obsessed with “god” (as he spells it) in his letters ;-)

            I often write letters too (and articles), but they cover, like, 10 different topics, and not, ehm – just one.
            Having a group of friends is very important in your life, and Mr Sadlier has a few devotees, from that Atheists Society: every time the important work of “philosophising with 12 year olds” is published under his name, this is met with an applause from those who believe in exactly the same – for unlike me, he doesn’t actually seek any public debates – maybe that’s wise – if he was to debate me, I am able to make people like him (that is badly trained in logic) go red or cry during public debates).

            Here are some samples:

            “Brilliant letter by Rob Sadlier in today’s Irish Times – says it all re the disgrace that is Ireland’s system of religious school patronage”

            From the Anti-Irish Times:

            “Sir, – I think [...] proposal to reduce and soon eliminate the teaching of religion in schools is brilliant!”

            And so on, and so forth.

            Brilliant as Mr Sadlier is in his obsession, he doesn’t however match Olivier Cromwell’s zeal.

            This is a letter that in my humble opinion, Mr Sadlier would really like to write about theologians:

            “Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil’d this sacred place, and turn’d the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.”

            His second, Mr Jekyll/Mr Hyde-like public life as a writer of paranoic, monothematic and puerile letters to newspapers, peppered with bad logic and bad spelling, rather reminds of that passage from the Old Testament (who says the Bible is not funny?) describing the king Nebuchadnezzar went mad:

            “All this happened to Nebuchadnezzar the king. Twelve months later he was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon. The king reflected and said,

            ‘Is this not Babylon the great, which I myself have built as a royal residence by the might of my power and for the glory of my majesty?’

            While the word was in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is declared: sovereignty has been removed from you, and you will be driven away from mankind, and your dwelling place will be with the beasts of the field You will be given grass to eat like cattle, and seven periods of time will pass over you until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes.’

            Immediately the word concerning Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled; and he was driven away from mankind and began eating grass like cattle, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws. “But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me” Daniel 4:28-37 :-) :-) :-)
            “When I first began university the favourite parroted word was ‘semantics’.
            These people think they are so very clever when they master a new phrase like ‘correlation is not causation’.”

            Very true and very sad (speaking from a point of view of a person who is very interested in semantics, passionate even). Although very funny when such vanity is punished. Usually these fashionable, but not well understood terms like “semantics” are mentioned in a poetic rather than philosophical mood, that is they hope to evoke smacking their listeners lips in awe than encouraging dialogue.

            As far as I remember, a favourite parroted word in my college times was “discourse” (of course, I am talking about literature or sociology students, theatre directors, priests even, etc). Asking my interlocutor to tell the difference between “discourse” and “debate” would usually trigger a reaction varying between patronising and aggressive.

            But the most pretentious “word” I have ever come across came from a certain then poor and bragging young PhD student, today rich and bragging professor of political science in Poland. I was attending a conference on conservatism in Kraków and the PhD student of political science (admirer of de Maistre and Carl Schmitt – the latter interesting thinker, but if you are 21, a perusal of the former can probably f..k up your brain more than a perusal of Nietzsche), and the said PhD student, willing to grab a glass of wine as well as avoid any serious questioning, said – in a typical Kraków fashion, but more – and I quote: “And now, dear Sirs, I am taking the liberty of expressing my désintéressement” (“A teraz, drodzy Panowie, pozwole sobie na wyrazenie mojego désintéressement”), to which I replied “Mr Wielomski, can’t you speak Polish properly?” :[)

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej


            Btw, I would like to wholeheartedly recommend that you go to cinema to watch this movie before it is gone:


            Why? For the following reasons:

            1. It is based on a true story.
            2. It is a first Hollywood WWII movie set in Poland I am aware of where the Nazi occupation is not portrayed from a purely Jewish perspective.
            3. Regardless of that, I have been following Jessica Chastain’s career for 13 years and I think she is a really intelligent actress (paradoxically, I was familiar with her acting from theatre more than from movies, especially when I saw her in plays by Chekhov and Oscar Wilde).
            4. The sets are meticulously done (for quirky reasons, this is sometimes more important to me in a movie than a script – perhaps this comes from interest in paintings).
            5. It is a moving story too, but not in a schmalzy sort of way. Then again, cinema is changing too (for example the way actors talk, which is more natural – I mean, if the movie is good that is).

            one of the results of that change is that good movies are now really well made (some biopics), even if some of them are done “with an agenda” (the French biopic on Sklodowska-Curie, aimed at convincing the world, but mainly the French – that is the world – that Sklodowska-Curie was French); while bad movies are now bad like you wouldn’t believe (a lot of movies are now just a very good video games, with no real scripts).

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “The Zookeeper’s Wife” is of course a much better movie than the French biopic on Maria Sklodowska-Curie, and probably better than any Spielberg movie (in terms of script and acting – in special effects, Spielberg is very good).

          • coldblow


            I meant to add that Colm Ó Tórna is well-known in Irish-language circles. He used to take photos for Gaelic publications (Saol, as I recall) and is a decent man who has retained his values. I think I spoke to him once but am not sure. He is a bit like some of the Dubs (from Balbriggan) who came down to Killarney a couple of years ago for a water protest.

  2. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    Mr François Fillon has already expressed his support for Mr Macron:

    “L’abstention n’est pas dans mes gènes. (…) Il n’y a pas d’autre choix que de voter contre l’extrême droite. Je voterai pour Emmanuel Macron”

    And so did prime minister, Bernard Cazeneuve:

    “La présence d’une candidate d’extrême droite au second tour de l’élection présidentielle, 15 ans après le choc d’avril 2002, appelle une position claire et forte de tous les Républicains. C’est la raison pour laquelle je les appelle solennellement à voter Emmanuel Macron au second tour pour battre le Front national et faire échec à son projet funeste de régression de la France et de division des Français”.


    Will THAT support help him or harm him?

  3. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    Of course, Germans expressed their support for Mr Macron too (mind you, in the capacity of the Foreign Minister Deparment, not as a party):

    “Auswärtiges Amt

    .@sigmargabriel zu #Frankreichwahl: Bin froh, dass @EmmanuelMacron Wahlen anführen wird.Er war der einzige wirklich pro-europäische Kandidat
    20:20 – 23 Apr 2017″

    Few people know that Madame Le Pen was in Poland (she gave an interview) recently and she desperatly wanted to talk Mr Jaroslaw Kaczynski into supporting her, but preferring to bet on the Trans-Atlantic alliance with the Mr Trump, he refused. Madame Le Pen got a bit angry and you then heard some negative comments on the Poles from her during one of the debates. So emotional woman after all?

  4. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    2 observations of mine on the election:

    1. Madame Le Pen, having been reaching 30% in regional elections, has returned to a support of 22% – this is the level of support for her father 15 years ago. A lot has to change so that nothing changes.

    2. The most attacked candidate was by far Mr Fillon, not Madame Le Pen – which would indicate the establishment considered Madame Le Pen the lesser evil for them.

    Interestingly, in Paris, the place of biggest recent immigration, Madame Le Pen has only received 5% (though should we talk about immigration as a problem for France, or a certain religion as a problem, since most people who cause riots in in Paris France are by law French, and closing the borders is not going to allieviate the problem?).
    5% is far less than anti-establishment Mr Kaczynski had in bureaucratic Warsaw. If so, then that means that Madame Le Pen never really had any chance…

  5. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    Regarding election and religion, Montaigne Institut in France has carried out extensive research on Muslim community in France (both immigrants and native). 29% said that they do adher to French law, but to Sharia law. The same 29% participate in prayers, the rest are secular Muslims so to say. A very interesting result is that there is… less Muslims in France they one previously thought! 5.6% instead of 10% (ages 15 and older). But out of people aged 25 and lower, 10% are Muslims, and out of them, half of them are extremists (the extremuist also tend to low educated because they reject school as a secular institution). I think that Madame Le Pen has phrased this well by saying that not Islam is a problem, but it’s visibility. But I think that something else is also a problem – according to another survey, most French Muslims would not turn terrorists to the police (not necessarily from being extreme – could be from fear).
    This leads me to a main problem that noone dares to talk about – neither in France, nor in Ireland: we are completely disarmed. They are not.

    • Truthist

      “The Institutional State of the Irish State [ ISIS ]” / “The Establishment of the Irish State” is armed with R.T.E..

      What are u armed with ?

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        I think that less and less people are watching RTE, hence the totalitarian attempts to make propaganda compulsory (and they say that Catholic Church was oppressive – but no one was ever jailed in the Republic for failing to pay 165 euro for the subscription to read the Catholic press, and I don’t think anyone was jailed or fined for failing the attend the mass on Sunday).
        What am I armed with? In Poland, Smith&Wesson 9mm. Here, two viscious dogs running around outside.
        But that does nothing for Paris-style shootings (Paris has even stricter gun controls than Dublin), if they were ever to happen in Dublin City Centre, or for lorry running into the bunch of kids.
        Btw, I saw the pictures of the recent arrivals into Europe (so many that the German boat had to be rescued lest it capisized). They are not even Arab – they are all African, and from the south rather than north. Who financed their trips?
        West’s wars have nothing to do with Somalians being smuggled into Europe, and saying that they do – this is a r e a l populism. And they are not rescuing them – they are collecting them from Libya’s shores.
        Like I said, to compare the privileged treatment of those “refugees” it with the treatment that real Polish refugees (fake ones were immediately deported) had to go through in the 80s should be a subject of 2 pages article that would change the perception of what is really going on.
        But noone would dare to publish such article – that would actually make people think, and thinking people would be dangerous for the regime.

  6. michaelcoughlan

    Morning David.

    “trying to understand why financial markets are — up to now — so sanguine, given the enormity of what is at stake”

    I suspect the markets know whoever takes control they will be forced to do the same thing and that is either print or borrow more money which means a bigger bubble going forward. Brogan is blue in the face from telling you the money printing/borrowing issue is beyond the point of mathematical no return.

    “with income per head of close to €40,000”

    What kind of a nonsense of a statement is that especially when read in conjunction with;

    “General unemployment remains in double digits and this figure rises to 26% amongst French youth”

    Are the 26% youth and the double digit unemployed on €40,000 PA?


    They are not.

    “This election is not about economics”

    Biggest clanger of all. You can be sure it IS. The 26% youth and the double digit unemployed citizens have no economic stake in France do they? No they don’t.

    “The UK referendum was an opportunity to go back to those times before control was given away by someone to someone else”

    The giving away was done by corporate psychopaths giving the wealth creating part of the economy to boiler operations in India and opening the doors to dirt cheap immigrant labour.

    As for the Muslims.

    When they seek refuge prosperity and safety they seek it in Christian democracies not in Islamic theocracies don’t they?

    Yep they do.


    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      I was quite surprised to find out that Saudi Arabia banned Muslim Brotherhood in their own state. So after the collapse of the Schengen Zone (no one has made any serious attempt to protect EU borders in the last 2-3 years, except for:



      ), the EU has let in – among hundreds of thousends of others arriving with i-Phones from peaceful destinations – and welcomed with free housing and benefits – people that even Saudi Arabia wouldn’t let in.

      While our Greek friends:


    • mcsean2163

      Re Muslims, like the Irish in the US.

      It a shame to see such sectarianism. Look at the history of Europe, religious war after religious war. Muslims are going through a hard time in the middle East and some people love to kick them when they’re down.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        No, Christians are going through a really hard time – they are the most persecuted group of people in the world right now (I’m talking physical deaths). If anything, Islam experiences its revival, including in Turkey and Europe.


        This was even confirmed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel (certainly not particularly pro-Christian politician, judging by her legislation) who declared that Christianity is “the most persecuted religion in the world.

        “It a shame to see such sectarianism. Look at the history of Europe, religious war after religious war.”

        During the French Revolution, the ideology of human rights killed more people in a few months than the Inquisition killed within few centuries, and atheist ideology in 20th centuries killed more people than all religious wars combined – yet the believers in the ideology of human rights and atheists are not ashamed of that.

        Until I hear about some Irish killing kids with as lorry or capturing and beheading tourists, I will not agree that comparing the Irish diaspora in the US to Jihadists invasion of Europe really works.

        Also, as far as I know, the Irish in the US don’t get free housing and all sorts of benefits on the arrival in the US or Australia (neither do EU citizens on their arrival in Ireland), but I am open to corrections on that one.

        So if we are for equality (or equal treatment, which is what I am for, which is different than equality), than why give preference to Muslim immigration?

        Btw, I am not at all claiming that all Muslims are terrorists (far from that, there is two Pakistanis in my local Centra I am friends with and you could not think of nicer people) – but all recent terror attacks in Europe were carried out by Muslims (of a radical sort, true, yet not by Christians, buddhists or atheists).

        That should have made the Irish politicians think. With an exception of Tánaiste Frances Fitzgerald (by words anyway), it didn’t.

        Forget all that God and religion discussion for a moment – on a much more basic level, this combined with a total disarmament of Irish population, this just doesn’t make me feel safe. A lot of people share my opinion, but are scared to say it (again with some exception, like Mr Ian O’Doherty).

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        “some people love to kick them when they’re down.”

        So, just to rephrase my argument, far from kicking people when they are down, my argument goes like this:

        every Irish person when they go to the US or Australia, and every EU citizen when they settle in Ireland, needs to have a passport to enter.
        Yet recent migrant arrivals don’t need to have a passport – 80% of them didn’t: they said they lost it and they just believed them that are refugees, based on what they had said. The vast majority of them came from regions not involved in war.


        Every Irish person in the US or Australia needs to find work or to pay for studying if they enter, and so does every EU citizen arriving in Ireland.

        Yet recent arrivals do not need any of that, and they get free housing and all sorts of benefits (in Ireland very little, which is why we have so few of them, but massive in Germany and Sweden).

        So clearly they get privileged treatment.
        I’m in favour of equal opportunities for everyone, not for a privileged treatment.
        What I read you, it would appear that you are in favour of privileged treatment for Muslims.
        Why, like?

        Now, let’s analyse those who are really politically persecuted (which is a small minority).

        In the 1980s, the first country that received political refugees from Poland (after Austria, where they had to stay in a camp, with no pocket money and duty to register every day, long queues for visas and ban on coming back to a camp late) was Canada. Initially, USA only sent food packages for Christmas, and as far as I know, Ireland didn’t grant any visas at all.
        This was described by me in great details not so long ago.

        First Martial Law refugees to Canada had to sing a contract which obliged them to work in agriculture for 2 years lest their visas are cancelled (a few years later this was relaxed a bit).


        If you are saying: let’s let in every genuine Muslim refugee with a passport, after one year of cross-examination, provided he has no criminal record or is not a member of a Party (so like terrorist group today) in his/her native country, while not allowing him to leave a camp at night and no pocket money, and provided he works in agriculture in Ireland for 2 years and gets immediately deported if he doesn’t turn up for work


        Yes, I’d say let all such Muslims in.

        The number of the willing ones will be zero.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          “Every Irish person in the US or Australia needs to find work or to pay for studying if they enter” – of course, I am not talking about people with serious money or (short-term tourist with money) because they can find refugee in pretty much every country (business visa) – they could even during WWII.

      • Yeah especially the Holy Joes. So much for Christian compassion, understanding and charity.

        That’s only when it suits them. Total hypocrites.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          I do not know about Holy Jones in the States but I am open to learn more about them.

          In early months of 2015, Poland was one of the first – if not the first – country where people declared to take Syrian refugees voluntarily, through local parishes – Foundation Estera, to their own private homes, paid from their own money; other countries like Greece or Italy took them involuntarily or, like in Germany, via government programs. It received 1,000 Syrians in total, first 150 to the parish of priest Ryszard Adamczak. They all escaped to Germany after a week or two – benefit money was not good enough for them – despite receiving a better treatment than an average child from a Polish family, and certainly better than 1,500,000 real refugees from Ukraine that Poland also took. For some reason all Ukrainians were able to find work in Poland, albeit many of them illegally, and only a little over 60 – six zero – of 800,000 of the so called refugees took up any work in Germany despite huge government incentives.

          Now these refugees taken by parishes in Poland are suing them, because Germans changed their law and because they already received an asylum status in Poland, they are no longer eligible for benefits in Germany.

          Now Germany is asking Poland to take back those people and retain them by people, using wardens.




          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            retain them by people – retain them by force

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            btw, speaking of hypocrisy and compassion – I am curious whether out of those who advocate that


            took any refugees to their homes like those christian families in Polish parishes?

            For example, how many Syrian or Afghan families did President Higgins or Independent Galway West Senator Fidelma Healy-Eames take?

          • coldblow


            By coincidence I was thinking the same thing this morning. In September some world celebrities offered the ‘refugees’ accommodation in their own private luxury homes (or islands). These should be taken off them and given to the immigrants. Irish politicians and media figures (including David) should do likewise.

          • coldblow

            And remember the events of Sept and Oct 2015. Not content with demanding immediate *citizenship* (no less) for Syrians they demanded the imposition of a ‘temporary’ halting site on the beleaguered residents of tiny Rockville Drive.


            “Minister for the Environment Alan Kelly called [the opposition of the residents] ‘shameful’ and Minister for Equality Aodhán Ó Ríordáin described it as ‘disgusting’”

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “Not content with demanding immediate *citizenship* (no less) ” – immediate citizenship, really?! I missed that one! Do you have a link?

            How would one square that with the demands, say, a) Polish person in Ireland, b) Irish person in Australia or the US (especially the Irish staying illegally – if we consider that most “refugees” who arrived with no background checks whatsoever, in breach of the Dublin Regulation and gatecrashing into the Schengen Zone) or c) Ukrainian person in Poland would have to meet to be granted citizenship? In the case of a) for example, you need to prove permanent address for 5 years (but 7 in practice, considering the time to process the application, good English and prove that you have not been availing of any state’s help (not only social welfare) in any shape or form for the last 3 years; you then pay 1,000 euro (maybe more now) just to apply and if you fail, the Irish State just takes that money and uses it to finance bullshit like Jeremy Kyle show on RTE.

            Btw, the Syrians who were invited by Polish families – the families even went to such lenghts as to provide them TV channels in Arabic, and yet they still escaped to Germany because benefits were higher in Germany – but forget Poland, even life conditions in Austria and Denmark were not good enough for them (the pocket money they were given in Poland, some of them spent it immediately on buying the most expensive food and gadgets in the shop, even though they were also provided food). Just to compare it – did you know, that if a Polish person (from those who had been robbed and captured by the Soviets and transported to work camps in Kazachstan or Siberia) wants to apply for what is called “A card of the Pole” – something like green card, but less then citizenship, he or she must write a declaration that he or she will not avail of state’s help for the entire duration (the state might help her with granting an accommodation or helping to find employment – usually accommodation is paid from the employment)?

            I still have not heard any good argument from any of my critics on this blog why a grown up, well fed and muscular man age of 25, who arrived into EU illegally and might be a Jihadist (no background checks) should be treated better (free money, free accomodation, free medicine) than a) A Polish person repatriating to Poland from Kazachstan b) A Polish person immigrating to Ireland (let alone applying for Irish citizenship). c) An Irish person emigrating to Australia d) An Ukrainian person immigrating to Poland. e) A Polish war refugee in England (some of the best pilots were deported from Great Britain after WWII when they were no longer needed) f) A Polish political refugee in the 1980s.

            Unless someone is able to justify the privileged treatment of recent migrants (hitherto no one did), I hereby declare I won this discussion on refugees by, I’d say, knockout.

            P.S. I reiterate – I am still not against Ireland accepting war refugees: on the same conditions as the West accepted Polish refugees in the 1980s.

          • coldblow


            I listened to a podcast by Mr Real Polish about Karta Polaka. It is a fairly demanding procedure and it isn’t even citizenship.

            Unfortunately I can’t find a link but that is my recollection of Sept 2015. From memory there were various stories involving ‘refugees’ and then an unfortunate incident where a lorryful of Asians was found asphyxiated, in Austria I think. Then came the picture of the drowned Kurdish infant and a massive flash campaign on Facebook to ‘let them in!’. That was probably Thursday and on the Saturday the press was saying the same, in banner headlines: Burton, Higgins etc. Matt Cooper wrote a two-page ‘essay’ in the Mail saying that there are times when the heart should rule the head and Harris wrote a similar piece with an almost identical headline shortly afterwards.

            On that Saturday I remember speaking to my wife and her sister about it. The latter is largely unemployed and works on schemes and suchlike. She (in the goodness of her heart) thought it was a charitable thing to admit them. I told her that it would mean the end of any reasonable unemployment benefit (I hadn’t thought about it, it just came out).

            I definitely heard a female politician calling for immediate citizenship, but memory can deceive. It could have been Joan or Lucinda, probably the latter.

            Harris was arguing that these women in the ME were being *raped*. These were refugees and most of them would return home. Tino Sanandaji, Swedish-Kurdish
            economist, says that such immigrants don’t go home. Native population does emigrate however.

            I would oppose all immigration except for the most pressing and that should be only temporary. It leads to huge problems and costs. Admittetdly Ireland has deliberately jettisoned its past and its values so one isn’t protecting as much as might have been the case. On the other hand, nobody was ever consulted and if it were put to a vote I am sure that most people would call for an immediate halt. They won’t be asked because that would be ‘populist’.

            It doesn’t really matter anyway because they will keep digging the hole until they fall out the other side. It is like watching a mass mental breakdown.

            Finally David talks about the extreme Right (he is right to an extent – see Hitchens link on this thread to his views on France’s FN) and how the ‘Centre’ can deal with it. The Centre is not a true centre and it is far from moderate. Many of its present principles and policies would have caused an outcry twenty, even ten years ago.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            I can only answer you recalling some posts of mine from 2 years ago:

            “Grzegorz Kolodziej
            May 12, 2015 at 3:35 pm

            Bluegalway is asking: “and if UKiP are ‘nutters’, then what does that make Canada and Australia, which both have the same immigration policies that UKiP are proposing”, I can answer: nothing. These are reasonable immigration policies; certainly more reasonable than those that Europe has (we will give every asylum seeker an asylum, but we will not allow them to work – as a result Europe is attracting that kind of immigrants from Africa who are coming to live here with four wives rather than to work and some of them are plotting a Muslim version of the Night of the Long Knives).”

            and from the same comment:

            “The subject of independent Scotland and its implications on the Northern Irish question will be a recurring theme within the next decade. There is nothing strategic to be heard about it from our politicians who can only think in terms of 4 year election cycles and those politicians who claim they think in terms of a great vision of a united Ireland – like Sinn Fein – cannot offer any clear answers as to how the united Ireland should deal with 900,000 angry Orangemen and what her foreign allies should be.”

            and from

            “Grzegorz Kolodziej
            November 19, 2015 at 6:10 pm

            According to an internal document issued by the EU Council counter-terrorism coordinator Gilles de Kerchove, there are 1,595 REGISTERED foreign terrorists in Europe (in fact, they are pretty much allowed to travel to and fro and not only that: Belgian authorities knew about the Abdeslams brothers involved in the Paris massacres – they arrested them and released them, and did not tell the French authorities about them – they would later take part in Paris attacks; another issue is that all of that would not have gained tragic dimensions of that scale if the Europeans had not been disarmed by banning (or making it nearly impossible) gun ownership in Europe as it is much more difficult for a few lads to kill a hundred people if, say, 50 people in the theatre had guns – bear in mind, even the special no-gun zones did not prevent the terrorists to smuggle guns into, i.e., the stadium).”

            And here is my votum separatum to David McWilliams’ article dated September 24, 2015. David wrote:

            ” Immigration is the issue and there are totally different attitudes on either side of Europe’s new Iron Curtain.

            For example, over the weekend, a Croatian friend of mine, cosmopolitan and well travelled, asked me whether the rush of migrants was simply a grand plan to Islamise Europe. Sitting in Zagreb, she is terrified about Islamic “fifth columnists” that will come into Europe and radicalise the existing Muslim population. I am sure this type of conversation is happening all over central and Eastern Europe. I have no idea if it is a true fear, but that hardly matters – it’s a fear.
            Croatia is not a country with resources and it’s not a country that is used to foreigners. Travelling around that country – and any country in the Balkans or Eastern Europe – one thing that strikes you is how “white” these countries are. Travel in Poland and you will be hard pressed to see a black man. The same goes for Slovakia and Hungary.
            The Slavic countries in the East are against accepting foreigners into their countries and the Slavs in the South are equally against immigration.”

            And I replied to his article:

            “Grzegorz Kolodziej
            September 24, 2015 at 5:34 pm

            “The reason I have decided to comment is that although your article on the new Iron Curtain is well-thought, reasonable and relevant, I suffer from the impression that you and your readers are missing out on what the real bone of contention in Europe is – and how you can square Eastern Europe into that.


            It’s all very true, except that the debate in Eastern Europe has nothing to do with black people or foreigners in generals (historically Poland was the most welcoming country in Europe – called “the Jewish Paradise” by the authors of the Great Encyclopaedia – that’s why we ended up with so many Jews – it also had most of its elected kings foreign-born and not speaking any Polish – and by the way, if you weren’t involved in the cult called rugby you would have noticed by now that the situation of black players is the worst not in Eastern Europe, but in Spain and Italy’s lower division matches – unlike the Spaniards, we had black, foreign born players in our Polish national soccer team and some of our basketball teams are more non-white than white – and have you ever met a Spanish Lewis Hamilton fan?)


            So what is the real bone of contention? I can summarise in a few points.

            1. There used to be something called the EU law. Now Hungary is being bullied by Germany, France and now Austria for being the only country which is serious about Schengen and the Dublin Declaration. Basically the EU law is now what Mrs. Merkel says it is (it was not until 1943 that Hitler was able to fully change the German legal system in that manner – that the law was what he said it was), not what we – the European nations – have signed for (by saying “we” I mean our so called “elites” – for not every nation was given a chance to vote on any of it and when they did vote – like the Irish – their vote had not been respected and they were asked to recant). I do not know about you, but to me it’s the Eastern European countries which try to rescue the Latin civilisation and Germany which tries to change it into Byzantine civilisation, where written agreements do not matter). That Dublin Declaration now looks rather like that piece of paper that Mr. Hitler signed for Mr. Chamberlain


            2. Part of that Latin heritage – I am talking about the Roman Empire and its law – is that we, free (continental) Europeans and free members of the Atlantic civilisation should be able to enjoy some liberties, such as freedom of movement of goods, people and capital – but also freedom to opt-out of it. But Gemany sees it differently – they want Eastern Europe to force the migrants to stay in Eastern Europe by force (as if Poland had little to worry about its eastern border with the “friendly” Ukraine ommemorating their Nazi veterans – with Mrs. Merkel quietly encouraging it).


            6. I have written many times that I am not against taking war refugees. However, if most of them are refugees, than I am Michael Collins (it is estimated that less than 20pc are from Syria and 5pc from Iraq). Most of those people stranded in Hungary are economic migrants – relatively rich – how many Poles could pay 4,000 euro to come to Ireland? And how come you are given a 1,000 euro and a house without any merit or even proof that you really are a refugee when you are healthy looking and definitely not hungry (the most desired thing after crossing the Hungarian border is not food or water – that they throw out when offered by the Hungarian police, as you can see in multiple videos – but places where they can charge their i-Phones to tell their families they are on their way to the German paradise; make no mistake, there are real war refugees as well, but they constitute no more than 20pc of the total migrants)?


            10. Thinking a year or two ahead – Mrs. Merkel has just secured the National’s Front victory in France and she made sure the newly elected Polish government will be pro-US and anti-German. So maybe she is not that wise as I have thought? You write that you have no idea if your Croatian friend’s fear about the Islamic “fifth column” is a true fear. Well, it is a true fear – Sweden is now first in the world in terms of rapes per capita and this has been going on when the leader of the Copenhagen’s Muslim community has said in public that every woman who does not cover her body desires to be raped. I do not think that Ireland where women would have to cover their faces is the kind of Ireland that Edmund Burke desired and Michael Collins fought for. Do you?”

            And, from a comment of mine to the same article from almost 2 years ago (Sep 2015):

            “And who is the extremist here – Hungarians or young ISIS recruits on false Syrian passports?”

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            See what I mean?


            Boy oh boy, how much in his column from Croatia David got the “5th column and fears of the central and eastern European states regarding new migrants” bit wrong 2 years ago, and how I got it right!

            For 60 cars, it’s a bit too much for locals prank (see what the Gardai will say, though that will probably not be in the media, like we never found out who stood behind this:

            And that’s with only 760 “refugees” Ireland took last year, instead 10,000 President Michael “Wanker” Higgins demands.

            I’m now awaiting for the next letter of Dr Munjed Farid Al Qutob explaining to us that it was Islamophobia that damaged those cars.

          • Don’t be daft Grzegorz.

            That particular deed has ‘Irish scumbags’ written all over it.

            You are remarkably integrated with Irish society and culture from where I’m viewing and your grasp of the local dialect is second to none for a foreign person but if you had been born and bred in Dublin, or Ireland you’d immediately recognise that deed as the work of feral Irish youth.

            I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it.

            PS. I doubt there will ever be an Islamic terrorist attack in Ireland – most people in the outside world don’t know where Ireland is, but if there is an attack you can expect the most incompetent response ever seen in history by the authorities, police force etc. – it truly will be Keystone Cop-ic on epic proportions.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            If so, then why is there an increased activity of the Gardai this week in fear (this was reported in mainstream newspapers, such as Indo?) of a potential terror attack (chains to prevent lorries entering streets full of pedestrians, news Garda units, etc)?

            Bear in mind that the recent census showed that there is 60,000 Muslims in Ireland. Are they all benign? Garda own sources would disagree (if they can do anything about it, it’s another issue).

            As for your P.S part, I fully agree with you:


            Although it goes further than Keystone Cop-ic on epic proportions: in one of the links I attached in the past I showed that President Michael Dick Higgins was personally involved in defending some of the Jihadists recruiting in Ireland, and considering his position, that’s more negligence – that verges of treason.

            Unfortunately, a fact that is not well advertised is that Ireland has a remarkably high number of native (Ireland born, of Irish ethnicity) Jihadists (usually combining Jihadism with leftism and some kind of Marxist variety of nationalism).

            This is what people do not want to acknowledge (among those who acknowledge the threat of radical Islam invasion of Europe): “no more immigrants”, say ones; “deport them all” – say others; – but what to do with the native Jihadists?

            Hence me advocating to allow people to carry guns in order to prevent events like mass-shootings (try shooting pedestrians in high-security Israel – one idiot tried it recently, he lived for another 5 seconds maybe, and noone else was hurt).

            I do not know how to get through you people: in those cultures, if you seek compromise, it is not seen as politeness but as weakness.

            Some Asian and Arab civilisations is not like differences between a Polish, German and Irish cultures.
            Here we have different cultures, there we have different CIVILISATIONS.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            As to whether the Irish bad apples did that with 60 cars – I don’t exclude that, but I think this is less likely (they are too lazy to start with – most of the rotten part of Irish youth is too lazy to even walk 3 bus stops, let alone scratch 60 cars at night in great danger of being caught).

            For example, when it comes to that riots of 250 people in Dublin City Centre – the vast majority of them were the new arrivals, but while the riots themselves were covered by the media, the latter was not.

          • Any Islamic extremists who are in Ireland are more interested in using the country as a launching pad for attacks against the UK – they don’t care about Ireland itself.

            This website is so badly laid out that it’s not even funny.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “This website is so badly laid out that it’s not even funny.”

            Yep. All comments of some commentators about some comments being too long could be boiled down to one thing: possibility to insert footnotes. On the other hand, it is not censored, and where would you find that nowadays? Not in the UK or France, and certainly not in Germany (I was amazed that Germany is so high on the Press Freedom Index – really?! – with 3 media groups oligopolising the entire German media market (TV, radio and press), total ban on foreign capital entry to the German market (the British tried), and 1,000 euro fine if you write something in their social media the German government does not like?).

            So badly lay out as it is, we should be happy with what we have. It won’t be forever, I can see that coming (especially with future chipping of people).

          • Yeah the lack of censorship is very admirable.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          lay out = laid out

          On the other hand, it’s a part of tradition I’d say. I have been reading this blog for 10 years (commentating much later) and I guess, if I saw it one day being properly done, I’d lose a huge chunk of myself ;-). It’s like having a vintage car with a gearbox not synchronised (we had such car when I was a child) – when you buy new, suddenly you realise you’d rather have the old one back ;-)

          • That’s the difference in you and me Grzegorz. As far as I’m concerned the old can be thrown out and give me the new any day of the week, no sentiment.

      • Deco

        Just a thought…but who is responsible for that tough spell in the Middle East….the adherents to the never to be surpassed prophet whose behaviour on earth was described in the Koran and the Hadiths. Like Che Guevara for the Trots, he is the model of behaviour, to be emulated. Like Che he seems to have some very troubling details.

        How many “liberals” have actually read about those exploits ?

        In particular, how many Jewish liberals in the US have read the contents ?

        Nothing is more to be feared, than a gangster, for whom fools have dropped every form of rational objective analysis for the sake of finding somebody to follow……

  7. michaelcoughlan

    “I was quite surprised to find out that Saudi Arabia banned Muslim Brotherhood in their own state”

    I am surprised you are surprised?!


  8. Tony Brogan
    April 23, 2017 at 10:07 pm
    “France is blocked by the self-serving tendencies of its elite,” he told supporters at a rally in the southern French town of Pau, before lowering his voice and adding: “And I’ll tell you a little secret: I know it, I was part of it.”

    Macron is the choice of the elite all the while being promoted as anti establishment.
    France has the same battle against the central bankers as does the US, as do we all!!

    This column is written by a central banker and is a good reason the issue of a central banker vision of one world government control, globalisim , is avoided as a point of discussion or debate.

    The truth will not emanate from here.

    Let us say it loud and clear.
    Macron is a central banker, trained and financed to promote the globalist agenda. As such he is the radical not the followers of Le Pen who might actually be conservatives.

  9. “Le Monde quoted a source familiar with the debates within the French ruling class, who described Macron as “the man that le Siècle [the most important Parisian elite club] had always dreamt of: a left-winger implementing a pro-business policy.”

    More than any other candidate, Macron has the career most typical of France’s elites. This in itself offers substantial proof that his desire to build a new political force — “neither on the Right, nor on the Left” — and to ally with the centrist party Modem aligns with the strategy of at least a substantial section of the French ruling class.

    This project, however, is not new. In fact, it has been openly discussed for at least ten years, if not since 2002. The deepening political crisis, however, has pushed it to the forefront.”


  10. “The battle comes down to a vision of France. One is a cosmopolitan vision of an open, deracinated, post-Catholic European France. The other is a nationalist, closed, but sovereign France, comfortable with its heritage, operating in its own self-interest, within a significantly altered European Union.”

    Rather the battle is between those who wish to destroy the nation state and those who wish to control an amorphous globular jelly concoction ruled by the banker globalists. The fight is freedom or facism, freedom or serfdom.

    The western industrial democracies have been under attack from the globalist forces for the last 100 years or more. The campaign is now ramped up as they feel success is near or the project will be set back by another 50 years.

  11. Mike Lucey

    Yes, Tony, the globalists are not in a major hurry. Slowly but surely they are reaching their objective, one world government by them.

  12. mcsean2163


    Come on, this is not your blog.

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      I thought everyone could contribute to this blog. Are you saying that this blog should be sectarian ;-)?

    • Truthist

      Grzegorz does not act like it is his blog.

      U are free to contribute useful posts whenever & as often as u reasonably can.

      That a poster is prodigious is no deterrent for another poster, or would-be poster, to post.

      Neither are any posts — except for the trollish — a hindrance to the reader.

      Each & all readers should readily have the skills to coast through the blog ignoring & attending to particular posts, & / or posters, as they deem fit on basis of scanning their eyes over the blog or using find function of their browser.

      In near future I aim to bring Grzegorz to task for line of argument of his.
      However, I greatly appreciate his posts & his character too.
      We are truly blessed to have him.

      Perhaps some day Grzegorz will help to find lovely Polish women for some of the male posters of this blog.
      Don’t burn ur bridges Mcsean2163.
      There is more to life than economics & politics & culture.

  13. McCawber

    The real significance of this and recent elections is that “radicalism” of all shades is becoming the norm.
    This time round the EU may get the French president they want but if they continue on their current path, refusing to acknowledge the real problems that exist in the EU then in five years the results of elections in France and elsewhere may well result in much more radical election results (not necessarily better equipped winners} and “Project Globalism” coming to an abrupt halt.
    President Trump may find that during his second term he is no longer a lone voice.

    • He may be a lone voice according to MSM but not to the electorate where he represents the voice of a good half of the people.
      When is a radical not a radical?
      When it becomes mainstream.

      • McCawber

        A week is a long time in politics.
        The EU must be dreading the few hundred weeks.

        • Yes we are one black swan event away from a le Pen victory.

          • Pedro Nunez

            Not a ‘black swan’ that would be surely be unpredictable, we are on an inexorable slipperly slope to ‘people without a vision perish’ this present aggressive western sterile, sophistic secularism is a ‘straw man’, a mealy mouth ‘feast’ impoverishing souls.
            We are losing sight of the ‘apps’ that the whole thing is built on, https://www.ted.com/talks/niall_ferguson_the_6_killer_apps_of_prosperity
            Maybe we’re going back to a new ‘dark ages’ but with no sign that Ireland will serve as the custodian of ‘those 6 killer apps’ against the new marauders at the gate. http://www.economist.com/node/17722535

          • Fascinating reading Pedro.

          • Truthist

            Economics-speaking, I note this significant observation from Ferguson ;

            “That crisis, which has been the focus of so much attention, including by me, I think is an epiphenomenon.
            The financial crisis is really a relatively small historic phenomenon, which has just accelerated this huge shift, which ends half a millennium of Western ascendancy.
            I think that’s its real importance.”

  14. coldblow

    I am sure I linked to this excellent article by Peter Hitchens a few months ago. Like David he also made his way to St Denis’s Basilica.


    “But the Revolution converted it into a windowless stone box full of the corpses of the great, whose macabre and rational tombs. I cannot work out how it still happens to have a cross on top of its dome… The St Denis basilica, now surrounded by one of the most Islamic districts of Paris, is one of the most beautifully desolate things I have ever seen. It reminds of how unsuccessful were the attempts to revive both religion and the monarchy in 19th century France, of the utter, irrevocable loss of a world that may well not have been as wicked and cruel as we like to think, or as wicked and cruel as what succeeded it.”

  15. “Latest polls indicated that the youth have become radicalized, with 38% saying that they will vote for the National Front.”

    labeling the youth as radical is totally wrong.
    It is the governing elite who are the radicals, demanding to change the country from what it was to something else. They are the radicals. The youth merely want a return to a more structured France where there was a reasonable chance of family life and employment.

    The radicals also include those immigrants who insist on changing the domestic population to activities that suit them the immigrant. Demanding sharia law instead of melding into the local indigenous population is what is radical.

    It is not radical, not wanting that change. It is not radical wanting to be rid of such aliens. Those who advocate the change are the radicals.

    “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.” Those who overthrew Rome were the radicals

  16. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/why-nothing-matters-central-banks-have-bought-record-1-trillion-assets-2017

    Central bankers continue to fertilize the economy. Injections of cash sit in bank reserves, idle.
    Now directly own the stock market and buy shares to raise prices and also buy bonds to keep the interest rates down. The trouble is , it is all nitrogen fertilizer. All the plants grow feverishly without any substance. All leaf and no root, seeds or fruits. When harvested there is no crop, just a tangle of vegetation that soon rots away and the soil is depleted of nutrients. That is today’s economy, all show and no grow.

    The central banks balance sheet will be holding a stinking mess of rotting vegetation that is worthless.

  17. Deco

    This will throw the cat in amongst the pigeons….


    Trump is making a gamble, on the state of the finances of the US.

    Basically, bring back business, and then spend less on social intervention to fix broken cities.

    Make America Business-worthy again ?

    The problem for Ireland, is that our version of capitalism includes a lot of oligarchies, and some extreme malinvestments. It also caters for a capital misallocation process, via bailed out banks that NEVER learn.

    • michaelcoughlan

      “via bailed out banks that NEVER learn”

      Hi Deco.

      I am posting this response to you in the most respectful manner possible. It’s you who never learns!

      Read one book Deco called confessions of an economic hitman and all will be explained.

      The banks know EXACTLY what they are doing.

      I really mean you should read the book.

      Here is an appetizer from the author;


      The solution is in the sequel book called “Hoodwinked”.

      • McCawber

        The banks know exactly what they are doing.
        And so do the politicians and civil service why else would they have stripped the bankruptcy of the bits that protected our citizens.
        Pension protection for example.

  18. Deco

    I think David is correct on what will happen eventually.

    Some speculate about whether Macron is the French Blair. Or the French Trudeau. Or even the French Obama.

    I reckon he is more Hollande 2.0.

    The real losers here are the centre-right, and the centre left. The two large, wealthy, powerful, political machines both picked loser candidates. They tried to have an open debate about governance. And Fillon is correct – French needs a bit of Thatcherism. The French state is large, protected, and controls capital, to the detriment of the rest of the economy. Hamon went too far left, and Macron took his space. But Hamon at least spoke what he honestly believed. Macron believes in soundbites.

    Another big loser in all of this is the EU.

    Yep. The EU proclaimed itself to be delighted at Macron’s first place showing. But Macron is not going to help the EU get out of anywhere. Merkel produced a PR stunt endorsement of Macron, that is perversely the opposite of an endorsement – as she also has an enormous credicbility problem.

    This is not a rejection of business as usual. The result is an illusion that business of usual can still continue, as long as the soundbites are new, and the face saying them before has not yet got found out.

    Macron is a kilometer wide, and a centimeter deep.

    Le Pen will attack Macron for the next few years, and will gain at his expense. For Le Pen, having a novice who is capable of blunders, is better than a skilled politician who can fillet her. Fillon could have filletter her, but Le Canard Enchaine filleted Fillon first, and created an implosion.

    Even worse, his own political party (no stranger to financial fiddling) rallied behind him, when they should have had a fresh nomination process.

    Meanwhile, French competitiveness is going nowhere, with the French establishment now more committed to undermining their competition than fixing anything – unless that competition comes from countries that are subsidising the CAP.

    Italy is poised to install a schitzo outfit called 5SM – which is led by an actual comedian/clown.

    And Germany has Martin Schulz, who is also big on meaningless cliches, and policy blunders.

    Spain’s saving grace is that the provinces can at least govern themselves, regardless of the mess in the Cortes.

    The only ones making any sense anymore are the Brits. They will complete their BREXIT, and get away from chaos on the continent once again.

    The real reason for Euroscepticism has nothing to do with anythiing mentioned in the article. The real reason is that the entire EU monolithic powere structure, is simply too unwieldy. To make matters worse, morons are put in all the important positions. A trading process is undergone, under which a whole series of nonsensical objectives have to be met – and this results in the likes of the leadership of failure taking over.

    • coldblow

      Monolithic EU structure: I must read the last, summarizing chapter of Booker and North’s Great Deception again. It describes the EU aim to bring about Utopia by means of a bureaucratic Leviathan and makes it clear that directives, while emanating from the Commission, are nearly all the result of political horse-trading, so you have the worst of both worlds. By the way, defenders of the EU point to the relatively modest size of the secretariat in Brussels. This is irrelevant as it co-opts national governments to do the job of implementing and policing the vast, ever-expanding shelffuls of ridiculous and unnecessary legislation.

      I mentioned in an earlier comment above that Ed West diagnosed the Diversity Illusion as a weird psychological condition similar to modern end-of-the-world cults. Booker and North see the EU mindset as similar, in particular the belief that a minutely, bureaucratically enforced unified Europe could ever work.

      While I am here, I don’t know if you read my link in the last thread to that short twitter exchange between Hitchens and Mark Urban of the BBC. (Urban, as Hitchen acknowledges, is an intelligent and, er, urbane journalist and former soldier.) Hitchens presses him for his evidence for the claim that the 2013 gas attack widely(but wrongly) attributed to Assad. Urban won’t answer. Indeed, he can’t answer, because there isn’t any evidence.

      What I have noticed is that the same pattern is followed in a large number of issues (and presumably all of them in principle) where the prevailing liberal fantasy is threatened: AGW, Europe, Trump, Brexit, immigration, Russia, Spanish Civil War, South Africa, Catholic Church, Irish clerical scandals, law and order, scientific materialism, Andrew Wakefield. You make the point and it is ignored, you follow up and it is ignored, you ask for evidence and it is ignored, you present your own evidence and it is ignored, and then you start again.

      As Pio Moa (Rodriguez), the Spanish historian writing about the Spanish Civil War, said (paraphrased): “When I started writing about this (Franco and modern Spanish history) I thought they were going to crush me but I was amazed at how useless (‘nullidades’) their arguments were.” As Pio Moa writes, and Gotz Aly (German writer whose Unser Kampf analyses the continuity between the intolerant Leftists of 1968 and their nihilistic fathers’ generation (radical students in the 20s and 30s)) writes, and Desmond Fennell, John Waters and many others, their opponents’ reaction is furious and emotional and seeks to censor and to prevent publication.

      • coldblow

        I missued Savilization out of my list, the jewel of the fantasists’ crown, the evidential castle in the air.

        • Deco

          Jimmy Savilization, and the BBC ( Big Brother Corporation). George Orwel worked there. So he knew it’s purposes. The shaping of the public dialogue.

          Prime example – the lack of any dialogue with respect to the ridiculuous gombeenism rampant from the state, in sucking the proceeds of the people’s labours from the people.

          They should rename the Labour Party as the Party for the punishment of Labour.

  19. Deco

    Is the only directin from here…..downwards ?


    Print-Baby-Print. (with apologies to Sarah Palin, and Janet Yellen).

    The same article indicates how the UK is now looking at how to manage it’s borrowing problem.

    In Ireland, our institutional state, is demanding yet more debt.


    • “Yes, a global phenomenon, as Central banks have “monetized” $1 trillion in the first four months of 2017 alone, nearly quadrupling their cumulative balance sheets via freshly printed “money” since the 2008 financial crisis. “—Andy Hoffman

      “So what exactly does this mean? Basically, to keep the system from imploding upon itself the world’s central banks had to “create” over $10 trillion of liquidity by purchasing assets onto their balance sheets. This puts forth a “chicken or the egg” question, or actually two as you will soon see.” Bill Holter


      As the central bankers Ponzi scheme needs its super Nova ending the amount of money created will inflame and engulf the world with credit and then implode upon itself leaving a black hole of economic despair.

      Now is the time to be out of stocks and bonds and into cash (held at home and not in a bank) and hard assets.

      You would think this would be an apt title for commentary from David, as a renowned economist. BUT he remains strangely silent. He also is a Rothschild trained central banker??!! Could that be the reason? Just asking.

  20. McCawber

    New National Maternity Hospital.
    Deal to build it on St. Vincent’s campus done and dusted almost.
    Almost slipped thru unnoticed.
    Politicians love fanfare announcements usually but not this time, for some reason.
    Then the citizen’s assembly issue their recommendation on another abortion referendum.
    Bang – ownership of the new hospital suddenly becomes loudly public.
    What the fuck is/was going on here?
    Pregnant woman are treated like second class citizens in this country.
    Absolutely no way should any religious organisation have any say in the running of our new (or old) national maternity hospital.

    • You seem to forget that most of the original hospitals were founded by religious orders. They were very successful and humane compared to what went before.

      • McCawber

        No I didn’t forget and I agree with you mostly but maternity would be their one failure or exception.
        It’s only my opinion but I think the baby’s health takes precedence over the mother’s.
        The 8th amendment reinforces this bias.
        The mother’s right to life is an addendum – having due regard etc.
        The primary statement is about the baby’s right to life.

        • Truthist

          Noble & honorable & proper when the ship is sinking ;
          “Women & Children 1st !” ;
          Women & Children to be rescued first ;
          Ahead of men.

          Chivalrous Christianity.

          Even misogynists accepted that this was moral.

          Misandrists rejoice in the man drowning though.

          Irish State has been overcome by Misandrists.
          Moreover, they are child haters.
          Even to extent of striving to murder the “pre-born” child.

          By the way, the occult / Satanism is big in Ireland.
          Grzegorz recounted relative failure for him in trying to uncover that scene as being a strong scene here.
          But, I expect now that he is more experienced with the place, renewed efforts by him would prove personally what I & others “know” to be true.

        • coldblow


          I haven’t followed this closely but it seems clear that there will be a big push to bring in abortion on demand. This will be justified as merely giving mothers equal rights to their children. Women will claim that their mental health is at stake if they are forced to give birth. It will be like asking your doctor for a cert for sick leave, probably easier. It will be described as suicidal ‘ideation’. (Another word for the list and which will mean whatever you want it to mean.) This is, I’m sure, what happened in Britain and everywhere else abortion has been introduced.

          They want to get the land off the nuns but are terrified that these ‘evil people’ may be seen as having any say in the purposes to which the land is put.

          • McCawber

            I’ve no doubt there will be immoral abortions but it’s fair to say that an abortion is not something that most woman would have for any trivial reason.
            The issue for me is one of humanity.
            My opinion for what it’s worth has shifted graduallly over the years to a more liberal approach.
            My only objection or concern is the claim that this is an issue that should be left to women to decide – it isn’t.

          • coldblow


            I agree that there will be immoral abortions, although I think they will nearly all fit into that category. At first there will probably be a bit of soul searching but less and less as time goes by, until it becomes routine and, well, trivial. They will all claim ‘suicidal ideation’, of course, but that is just a form of words and there will be plenty of opinion formers and women’s groups to ease the conscience.

            It is strange using the words ‘women’ and ‘immoral’ together these days, when it is a contradiction in terms.

            I think in the Soviet Union the rate of abortions was extremely high and was really no more than badly timed contraception. However they had been under the influence of several years more of degraded ideology.

            Funny how all this sex education never seems to have any effect on the abortion rate.

        • Truthist

          The malevolent influence of Women’s Studies

          By Bettina Arndt

          April 26, 2017


  21. Deco

    They are correct to have large hospitals and less of them. In fact Dublin only needs two hospital locations, and one of those should be on the M50.

    Again we should be building to scale, and efficiency – and on the transport routes for the sake of the employees, the patients and the visitors.

    But surely Blanchardstown or Tallaght would have been more suitable locations given the westward movement of Dublin, and the access to the national motorway network.

    Likewise with respect to the National Children’s hospital.

    • McCawber

      St. Vincent’s at least has the space.
      St. James has disaster written all over it both during construction and afterwards.
      The M50 is exactly right.

  22. “Why is it that many, if not all, of us think twice before we say what we really think or believe? Have we been silenced by the popular hecklers? Are we afraid? Is there a cultural inquisitor who stalks us all? Then, why is it that so many of us who know better about so much that we see around us cower and speak in hushed, mousy voices?” … Justice Clarence Thomas

  23. http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1493129340.php

    Epiphany time,
    And now there are an increasing number of anecdotal rumors of central banks creating the money to actually buy equities and commercial debt to keep stock markets up? What the #*! &%?

    At the risk of repeating myself, again I ask, but with a more strident, hysterical undertone of soul-searing trauma to my prolonged, pitiful wail of dismay, “ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?”

  24. Truthist

    This article has some real gems of info. / fact.

    Relevant to :

    THE IRISH ISLES situation & yonder to THE BRITISH ISLES situation impacting on us here in THE IRISH ISLES

    EU as project

    Freemasonry ; Ultimately running the show in the South of Ireland & the North East of Ireland

    False Flag terrorism

    “Contrived” Mass Immigration

    By Jude Duffy

    August 3, 2016, Anno Domini

    Contrary to what some in the alternative media suggest, Ireland, not Italy, is the birthplace of modern false-flag terror—specifically British Masonic false-flag terror. Around the world, many have heard of the IRA (Irish Republican Army), but few outside Ireland and Britain know of their ostensible adversaries in the Northern Irish “Troubles”, the British “Loyalist” paramilitaries. There’s a good reason for this: the global Anglo-Zionist Masonic global propaganda network succeeded in branding the Irish Troubles as a conflict between Irish nationalist fanatics and Northern Irish Protestants responding to the violence of these fanatics. But the Loyalist terror groups weren’t responding to violence from Irish nationalists: they instigated the violence.[1] And the Loyalists weren’t Irish either—they were British proxies. In fairness, they never claimed to be anything else, insisting always that they fought to maintain Northern Ireland as a British province.

    So, Loyalist terrorism wasn’t an Irish “problem”; it was a British problem. However, from the point of view of the British Masonic state, the great thing about branding the Loyalists as an internal Northern Irish movement, was that it let the British Masonic state off the hook, casting it as a noble disinterested intermediary, desperately trying to find a solution fair to both sides. In reality, British Masonry was the covert choreographer of the whole grisly pantomime, actively directing almost all of the loyalist violence, and most of the Republican violence too.[2]

    At first glance, it might seem like a mystery that the corporate media in Ireland, Britain, and elsewhere generally support Northern Irish Unionism and Loyalism. After all, the Unionists are ostensibly the “conservative” side in this conflict. Many older Northern Irish Unionists still attend church, eschew shopping on Sunday, and support the British monarchy. Even their dress bespeaks conservatism: at their Summer parades, they wear dark suits, old-fashioned bowler hats, and carry rolled up umbrellas. Unionist parties, too, still tend to be rather less enamoured of political correctness and cultural Marxism than modern Sinn Fein, which, under the disastrous leadership of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, has become largely indistinguishable from the British Labour Party, or the U.S. Democrats. One would thus expect the media to favour Sinn Fein over the Unionist fuddy duddies every time.

    But it isn’t so. For instance, no media on the face of the earth are more mindlessly politically correct and left liberal in every respect than the Irish media. Yet they have had a very long-standing love-in with Unionism and Loyalism, and harp obsessively on Irish Republican violence, while ignoring, excusing, or even glorifying, Loyalist Protestant violence.[3] The same is true of the media in most of the western world, which whitewash British atrocities in Ireland, even though they were and are frequently both more sadistic and more indiscriminate than the attacks of Irish Republicans.

    4795554547_945ee66200To solve this apparent conundrum of liberal media support for “conservative” Unionism, one needs to understand the deep Masonic and philo-Judaic roots of Northern Irish British Unionism/Loyalism. The Unionist establishment in Northern Ireland is joined at the hip to both Freemasonry and Zionism. British Masons and Zionists both live by the motto: “leftism for our enemies, right-wing nationalism for ourselves”. Therefore, for Anglo-Zionist Masonry, the craven political correctness of modern Irish “nationalism” represents a Masonic triumph over Catholic Ireland. A nationalist movement that embraces mass immigration, same-sex marriage, feminism, and the abortion of its own children, is not a nationalist movement at all, but an instrument of collective suicide.

    Moreover, the common supposition that Northern Irish Unionism suffers from an excess of dour conservatism and narrow religiosity obscures its history of extreme lawlessness and Masonic subversion. Its roots lie in revolutionary Masonry and the cabalistic Anglo-Protestant-imperialism that took on its modern form in England in the Elizabethan era. Nor has it necessarily become more law abiding with the passage of time. The modern Northern Irish Protestant statelet came into being via an armed mass rebellion by Anglo-Irish and Northern Irish Protestants in the Edwardian era against the decision of the British Parliament to grant Home Rule to Ireland.

    British Rothschild Zio-Masonry sponsored this Orange rebellion, which led to the partition of Ireland in 1923.

    The treaty that codified that partition stated that no new laws enacted by the new nominally independent Irish state could in any way affect the protection of Freemasonry in the new country. To this day, the Dublin Masonic Grand Temple in Dublin sits opposite the Irish Dail Eireann (Irish Parliament). When Ian Paisley met the then Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister), Bertie Ahern, in 2007, he greeted him with the words “I want to give this man a good grip”, at which point the two men exchanged what looked suspiciously like a Masonic handshake.[4] Brian Cowen replaced Ahern as Taoiseach in 2008, and within days of his elevation was caught on a live microphone in Dail Eireann calling the then leader of the opposition and his colleagues “Freemason F…ers” (I’d provide a reference for this story if I could find one, but although Cowen’s outburst was reported in all the major Irish media at the time, it appears to have been subsequently comprehensively scrubbed from the Internet!). A few months later, a huge financial and banking crisis hit Cowen’s government, and in 2011 he was removed from office in a media-orchestrated coup. Enda Kenny, the leader of the “Freemason f…ers”, took his place as Taoiseach in the general election that followed and is still Taoiseach today.
    Paisley crossing the bridge over the River Boyne at the site of the Battle of the Boyne, for the masonic Independant Loyal Orange Institution’s, Centenary Parade and Service. Photo by Chris Bacon

    Paisley crossing the bridge over the River Boyne at the site of the Battle of the Boyne, for the masonic Independant Loyal Orange Institution’s, Centenary Parade and Service.
    Photo by Chris Bacon

    Anglo-Masonry rules the roost in the Republic of Ireland every bit as much as it does in the north of Ireland, if not more so. When British Orange Masonic terrorists murdered 33 people in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings of 1974, the Irish Garda (police) refused to investigate the attacks. To this day, no one has ever been convicted for them. An Irish state inquiry headed by a former Supreme Court judge, Henry Barron, stated that it was neither far-fetched nor fanciful to believe that British state forces were involved[5], yet successive Irish governments have failed to challenge the British state over its withholding of crucial evidence relating to the bombings.

    The Orange Order was founded by three Freemasons in 1795, with the purpose of unifying Irish Protestants in defence of British Masonic rule in Ireland. The “Orange” in the title of course refers to the homosexual paedophile William of Orange, and his successful invasion of England in 1688, and his subsequent victory in the Battle of the Boyne in 1690— a victory that cemented his rule. Many of the subsequent travails that beset not just Britain and Ireland, but also the rest of the world in the succeeding centuries, can be traced back to this decisive triumph of cabalist Whiggism.

    Yet conservative and traditionalist Catholics, many of whom, consciously or unconsciously, have internalised the narratives of the “conservative” wing of Anglo-Masonry, tend to place all the blame for modern ills on the French Revolution of 1789—when in truth, that bloodfest was simply a delayed aftershock from the events of a hundred years earlier in Britain and Ireland. British “conservative” Masonry only turned on the French Revolutionaries after the latter began attacking the British Masonic agents in France who had played a crucial role in instigating the revolution in the first place[6]. Likewise, the Orange Order was formed in order to ensure that Irish Protestants did not stray into the Irish separatist revolutionary camp. In other words, the whole dispute over the French Revolution was simply two strands of Masonry slugging it out for control.

    Orangeism is, therefore, only ‘”conservative” in the sense that all revolutionary movements need to exploit conservative sentiment in order to provide stabilising ballast. As Engels once said: “Nothing is more authoritarian than a revolution.” For instance, without the backing of “conservative” evangelical Protestants, and to a lesser extent “conservative” Catholics (aka “Neo-Catholics”), would the Trotskyist Neocon agenda in the Middle East and elsewhere have succeeded? It should be noted in this context that Northern Irish Orangeists, like their Protestant counterparts in the U.S., eagerly supported this revolutionary programme for remaking the Middle East in order to advance the goal of Greater Israel.

    It’s also important to remember that it is eminently possible to exaggerate even the “contingent conservatism” of the Orangeists. For instance, the British intelligence-directed Loyalist paramilitary groups such as the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) and the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) are every bit as left liberal as Sinn Fein. Indeed, in conjunction with “Russian” mafia and Triad gangs, they are heavily involved in trafficking huge numbers of illegal migrants to Ireland, the vast majority of whom, quelle surprise, end up in the Republic of Ireland[7]. That, incidentally, represents another triumph for British Masonry: the destruction of the Catholic Irish nation through mass immigration of a scale proportionally unparalleled in the western world.


    Orangeism is the Northern Irish face of Anglo-Masonic esoteric imperialism. Many Anglo-conservatives, seduced by the prestige the Empire bestowed on Britain—not to mention its pageantry and apparent traditionalism—assume it was and is a conservative phenomenon when nothing could be further from the truth. Although British Masonry invented an entirely bogus racial justification for its supremacism (the indigenous English population are not predominantly Anglo-Saxon and are considerably less “Aryan” than their neighbours) British imperialism, military, political and cultural, did more to advance the breakdown of national identity among European nations (including the British nations) than any other force in history.

    G.K. Chesterton once said of the Freemason and British Empire jingoist, Rudyard Kipling, that he loved England not because it was English but because it was great. Chesterton saw the British Empire as undermining the essence of Englishness—a prophetic insight vindicated by events that began to take shape a few short years after his death. In its modern form, Anglo-Zio-masonic supremacism undermines the essence, not just of Englishness, but of all European nationalities. The virtual imposition of the English language across Europe, together with “Anglo-Saxon” economic models and ubiquitous surveillance, has not only shredded the cultural fabric of the continent, but facilitated huge waves of migration—waves that have the potential to completely destroy “old Europe”.

    But then Anglo-Masonic supremacists might not be too bothered by that, since their form of jingoism has traditionally viewed Christian Europe (and Ireland), not non-Europeans, as the great enemies of “British liberal, (i.e. Masonic, anti-Catholic) values”. During the recent British referendum on E.U. membership, most Orangeists and most British Neocons supported Brexit, on the grounds that Britain’s spiritual hinterland was not Europe, but the multi-cultural, multi-religious, multi-racial Commonwealth. Ironically, for all the chauvinistic chest-thumping of the Brexiters, the E.U. itself is an Anglo-Zionist project, as evidenced by the wholesale destruction of European languages, cultures, and ethnic identities that has taken place since its inception in the 1950s. Thus, spurning the E.U. in order to bolster one’s relations with the Commonwealth is akin to leaving Grand Orient Freemasonry in order to concentrate on one’s membership of the Scottish Rite variety. Both lead to the same place in the end:

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “Chesterton saw the British Empire as undermining the essence of Englishness” – interesting. Btw, because almost all our reading of the history of the economy is mediated through the English language (even in countries like Poland it is, through translations), we – and that includes a lot of good-will scholars – are not aware of the economic theory pre-(roughly speaking) John Locke (i.e. the influence of the manufacturing of Cistercian orders in Middle-Ages on capitalism: I wonder if David is aware that what we call capitalism originated pre-Adam Smith and even pre-Medici; in a perhaps slightly unfair appraisal of Medici family, I’d say that Cisterian brothers developed ways of manufacturing wealth in a real economy and Medici ways of distributing it in a virtual economy – and this is not that I am against banking and credit as such because it is very useful, but I’m just saying).

      And why is this relevant? Because the whole history of the British Empire is based on attempts to induce huge imbalances between countries in trade, which is achieved by controlling what geopoliticians call “entry points”; also, in the 17th century Ukraine, the British were behind stirring uprising in the Ukraine – so then eastern part of Poland – when Poland’s power (i.e. huge trade in Gdansk/Danzig) threatened the rising British Empire.

      Notably, as accounted in memoirs of one of the Prussian chroniclers of the 30-years war, one of the most active commanders working for Bohdan Khmelnytsky was a Briton from the clan of… Camerons; London has also contributed to changing, within 30 years, one of the poorest and most backward places in Europe – Prussia – into a military power able to partition the Commonwealth and Poland and Lithuania; same as the whole current EU model is based of imbalances in trade with Germany and their satellites like Holland, and since the US stopped having trade surpluses in the 1970s, the US model is based on using other countries surpluses, as it is to a lesser extent the UK model (although I’m familiar with two well known commentators in Poland – one a historian, another a specialist in the history and structure of secret services in the world (worked for BBC Polish Section for many years) who claim that London, not New York, is world’s centre of money recycling and financial fraud (I find that a bit paranoid though).


      In the economic theory of Middle-Ages, of which we are unware because most of that stuff was never translated from Latin (I read Latin) into English, drastic trade imbalances between the states were considered immoral. I know that some readers may burst into laughter that there were these people in 12/13 century who took economic decisions based on ethics (rather than coming up with ethics to suit the economic decisions already taken) – but this is how these economists thought in Middle-Ages.

      • coldblow


        Did you ever notice this passage in Caesar’s Gallic Wars (Book 4 I think)? It is his description of German trade patterns. If you substitute ‘flashy cars’ or ‘baubles’ for ‘horses’ things haven’t changed much.

        Mercatoribus est aditus magis eo ut quae bello ceperint quibus vendant habeant, quam quo ullam rem ad se importari desiderent. Quin etiam iumentis, quibus maxime Galli delectantur quaeque impenso parant pretio, Germani importatis non utuntur, sed quae sunt apud eos nata, parva atque deformia, haec cotidiana exercitatione summi ut sint laboris efficiunt.

        In the same book he describes how the Celts were mad for news and would hold passing merchants until they squeezed every bit of information out of them. If I remember correctly he said that the merchants would tell them any old cock and bull story just to get away and that Celts (read Irish) would believe it and make crucial decisions on the strength of fake news.

        • Deco

          If only they had RTE “Pravda” – that would cure the desire for “news”.

          Instead they would want to know the actual facts.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          “quibus maxime Galli delectantur quaeque impenso parant pretio, Germani importatis non utuntur, sed quae sunt apud eos nata”

          Jeez you right about substituting ‘flashy cars’ or ‘baubles’ for ‘horses’.

          Uncanny! It is not the first time I’ve found out from you about something I wouldn’t have found myself (like that author writing about fish in the Irish cuisine or rather lack theoreof).
          Recently, I’m following various debates (between Christian and atheist scholars) related to the authenticity of the New Testament and I was quite surprised to find out that New Testament is arguably the most corroborated ancient source of any kind (except for resurrection, of course!), and that while we have manuscripts going back to 90-100 AD (apart from still earlier Book of Acts – for me always the most interesting part of the Bible, except of course the Apocalypse), allegedly Caesar’s Gallic Wars was written centuries after the events (yet the it is a part of official ancient history and the Book of Acts is not).

          So far, the most interesting debate I came across in English (it is the Christian v anti-Christian that I am interested in) was this:


          Part Two, when they really go against each other, is fascinating:


          It reminds me of my academia times where I felt like fish in water in such encounters.

          Similar recent debate of young graduates on resurrection (Christian v atheist) in Poland, but that would be probably hard for you to follow (in Polish – I’ve noticed that in eastern Europe, you have mainly young people interested in that – same with classical music attendance – while in the West, except for Oxbridge, the average age of the audience is 60):


          • Debates in resurrection – dear oh dear, could students not use their intellectual capabilities in more useful ways?

            Might as well debate about whether the moon is made of cheese or not.

          • coldblow

            This is one discussion, with Antonio Pinero, which I found interesting, though I haven’t listened to it in a while:


            I listen to a lot of languages but am not proficient in any.

            I quite agree with you about the strength of historical evidence for Jesus of Nazareth. There is far more about him than most historical figures. There was a book written by an Irish priest about three years ago (a Redemptorist? I can’t remember) who accepted ‘conventional opinion’ and argued that he never existed. As David says, you couldn’t make it up.

            Agree also about the virtue of this uncensored blog. Fair play to David.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “Debates in resurrection – dear oh dear” – well, they are not sitting there for an hour and debating the details of resurrection because that would indicate insanity and they are not insane (the pro-resurrection debater is, like yourself, an IT specialist and a researcher in game theory and mathematic logic (doing PhD on that), and the atheists is a political scientists and a historian – but they debate on the New Testament as a historically credible source (or not), and the resurrection is woven into the debate on NT v other sources from those times.

            Instead of seeing a glass half empty, we should look at it from the half-full glass perspective and state that over there in Lublin:

            a) Two young people, one staunch atheist and another staunch Christian (non-Catholic, btw) can have a debate with such contrastic views, and their audience, varying from socialdemocrats to people who would make Ted Cruz look like a lefty, can listen to them without having a fist fight and

            b) They can do so while being, at the same time, intelligent people with real careers (this defies a view that some have that being religious means being a backward simpleton, aged 65 and single for all his life, whose only occupation is either standing on a chair on the corner of Henry St and O’Connel St, or being a skinhead).

            Not that I have ever took or would take part in a debate on resurrection (I was not even a theist for a considerable part of my life); I did organise though the first, and probably the only public debate in Poland on restoring a death penalty, featuring a law professor, following which I fell into some trouble with the authorities (i.e. my army unit recalled me immediately to report back to them) – as it led to some small riots, having attracted the most conflicted crowd you can imagine: i.e., two members of B’nait B’rith and one member of Grand Orient on the one hand (I happened to know the leadership of the former in Poland without even realising that there is such an organisation, let alone that they are their leaders), and Opus Dei on the other hand; as well as a small group of skinheads whome I didn’t invite, and normal people whome I did invite.

            So, I personally am overjoyed that now it is possible to have such controversial debates in such a peaceful atmosphere.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “There was a book written by an Irish priest about three years ago (a Redemptorist? I can’t remember) who accepted ‘conventional opinion’ and argued that he never existed.”

            Pray, you m u s t be so kind and recall who he was. I spilled my Earl Grey when I read this. I think I’ll write an article on it and publish it in a Christian magazine in Poland – no, I mean seriously.

            Priceless! It beats Monthy Pyton! I am already fascinated by a guy. I wonder… perhaps I could interview him – but how?

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          Still amazed by the quote you found which indicates that certain trade patterns and ensuing trade imbalances never die out, I would like to allude to one of my past threads in which I elaborated on the fact that the entire continental history has been written by German historians of the 19th century and tailored to German propaganda needs (whereby the whole Europe does not have any history and is in a state of an idiotic chaos until German tribes organise it and unite it) until recent advances in DNA research overthrown that claim (i.e. the Britons, supposed to be a Germanic tribe after the invasion of Anglo-Saxon, have only 5% of Germanic tribe haplotypes).

          This prompted me to quote some interesting things of what the ancient historians wrote about Slavs.

          1. Ammian Marcelin describes how in 2 century BC Germanic tribes reached Jutland from Scandinavia, which Jutland was inhabited by Slavic tribes (this is even confirmed by some 19th century German historians who invented this myth of “Europe organised by Germanic tribes”, such as Knobel in „Die Vorkeltafel der Genesis”). The same source writes about northern ares from Elbe to Rhein being constantly flooded by the sea, and thus practically unsettled.

          2. Pliny the Elder described areas of today’s Hannover as a desert (strange contrast), only turned into agricultural land by industry, and he says that the poverty of those tribes with no cattle is uncomparable. Generally Germanic tribes are portrayed as a kind of pirates wandering around Europe looking for wealthier peoples to rob.

          3. Ancient historians also write about 15,000 Suebes or Sueves (today’s Slavs – the entire article in Wikipedia on Suebes needs to be changed, because it refers to obsolete sources not informed by DNA research), who in 72 BC crossed Rhein to help Secvans. The Sueves were led by Ariovistus (also described as a German king in Gallic Wars, but his name was Jarowit – Polish name Jaroslaw comes from that, although, very rarely, you might still come across someone named Jarowit (with the ancient-west Slavic ending “wit” in Poland – the name Milowit is actually quite popular). This was perhaps the first emigration of the Slavs to the West (history repearts itself again LOL) – when the Galls found out that Slavs are agricultural people (name Pole comes from “pole” which means “field”), they encouraged more to come, so the number of Suebes soon reached 120,000.
          In time, Suebes became so powerful that they started to endanger the Roman Empire (Roman Empire had a very wise strategy of rulling the empire by bribing local kings, so the Roman Senate nominated Jarowit a king).

          I love this bit from Gallic Wars about Jarowit/Ariovistus (33):

          “Ipse autem Ariovistus tantos sibi spiritus, tantam arrogantiam sumpserat, ut ferendus non videretur.” LOL

          So the Caesar asked Jarowit (they met on horses, if we are to believe Roman historians) maybe not to bring more people over the Rhine if he does not mind ;-) ;-) ;-) – which Jarowit had been doing for 14 years, reminding him that he was magnanimous to him – but Jarowit did not agree, so Caesar banned all further immigration to the Roman Empire, but Jarowit did not give a damn.
          “Ariovistus ad postulata Caesaris pauca respondit, de suis virtutibus multa praedicavit: transisse Rhenum sese non sua sponte, sed rogatum et arcessitum a Gallis; non sine magna spe magnisque praemiis domum propinquosque reliquisse; sedes habere in Gallia ab ipsis concessas, obsides ipsorum voluntate datos; stipendium capere iure belli, quod victores victis imponere consuerint. Non sese Gallis sed Gallos sibi bellum intulisse: omnes Galliae civitates ad se oppugnandum venisse ac contra se castra habuisse; eas omnes copias a se uno proelio pulsas ac superatas esse. Si iterum experiri velint, se iterum paratum esse decertare; si pace uti velint, iniquum esse de stipendio recusare, quod sua voluntate ad id tempus pependerint. Amicitiam populi Romani sibi ornamento et praesidio, non detrimento esse oportere, atque se hac spe petisse.”

          So Caeasar – hold on to your chair – killed all Slavs until the Rhine line, and Jarowit himself lost two wives and a daughter while trying to save his life.

          But then the Teutons and the Saxons used the vacuum created by Caesar’s holocaust of the Slavs, and bereft of their allies, soon became Teutonic colony (ehm…).

          Meanwhile, the Suebes-Slavs regrouped and drove Teutons from the Rhine. But in fairness to them, in Pliny’s account, the Teutons arriving in Rome to ask Caesar to help them to drive away Suebes/Slavs describe Slavs as those that “immortal gods cannot equal in courage” (btw, Berlin’s district Koepenick name comes from Slavic Kopenica, Buchenwald from Bukowina and Fulda from Fuldaha, earlier Vultaha and this from Weltawa; when it comes to Gallic Wars, this is more biased an account, but similar opinion on Suebes courage is aired when the author writes (Liber I, 47):

          “Ariovistus his omnibus diebus exercitum castris continuit, equestri proelio cotidie contendit. Genus hoc erat pugnae, quo se Germani (when he means Germani, it is the tribe of Suebes/Sueves commansed by Ariovistus/Jarowit – G.K.) exercuerant: 5 equitum milia erant VI, totidem numero pedites velocissimi ac fortissimi, quos ex omni copia singuli singulos suae salutis causa delegerant: 6 cum his in proeliis versabantur, ad eos se equites recipiebant; hi, si quid erat durius, concurrebant, si qui graviore vulnere accepto equo deciderat, circumsistebant; 7 si quo erat longius prodeundum aut celerius recipiendum, tanta erat horum exercitatione celeritas ut iubis sublevati equorum cursum adaequarent.”

          • coldblow


            I remember that passage from Book IV and that it ended up with the Romans massacring the Suebes. I had wondered who they may be and thought they might have been Schwabians. I like Ariovistus’s insistence that if they want war they can have it and if they want peace they can stick to the condiditions they had freely entered into! I don’t clearly recognize the passage from Book I although I remember reading something very like it somewhere, a kind of military sweeper system maybe (so probably there). I read the first four books, or I,II and IV because my old Latin master gave them to me when he was clearing out his stock cupboard (the year after I left the grammar school became a comprehensive for the new intake – educational vandalism).

            English students of Latin would know Book IV (I think) well because it includes the invasion of Britain. I already had it typed out because I posted it here a few years ago, and since on the Irish Economy blog. I noticed the economic similarities myself but surely scholars in the past would have spotted them seeing as they were surely more careful and thoughtful than the present crop and the limited amount of surviving classical literature.

            You mention capitalism above. I would once again highly recommend reading Crotty (Ireland in Crisis or When Histories Collide (I think, or ‘Civilizations’) about how it derived from a specific agricultural adaptation.

          • coldblow


            I didn’t go looking for the cutting about the Irish priest (if I open the cupboard it will all fall out) but I am pretty sure this is he, Dominican Fr Tom Brodie:


            I took an interest in this story because I was exploring extravert behaviour in general (his picture is a typical extravert liberal, the kind you might have seen at CND marches in the past).

            If I ever get round to writing that book there will be a chapter on religion and the existence of God. My central text will be John Cornwell’s Breaking Faith, which is like a textbook on trendy, liberal Catholicism.

            There was of course the celibrated Anglican bishop (Durham??) some years ago who ‘accepted’ that the Resurrection never took place, but that is another matter from denying Jesus’ historicl existence.

            I remember when Michael D. was questioned on the telly before the Pres. election as to whether or not he was religious. “I am…. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. … …. ….. …. …. …. spiritual.”

          • coldblow

            How do you copy text from online sources? I have to type it all out.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “How do you copy text from online sources? I have to type it all out.”

            In most texts, you can simply left-click the mouse and highlight the text, and then right click and find copy, and then place the cursor in where you want to insert it and right click paste (the same can be done with pressing “CTRL” and “C” keys at the same time for copy, and “CTRL” and “V” for paste, and you can actually do the whole process on a keyboard by using other keys if your mouse fails).

            In some texts though you cannot do that though, because copying is disabled; or my company would send me dozens of pages of text in PNG format (rather than, say, Adobe), so that I do not have it too easy in life and have to spend like 20 hours on typing tons of text to work on rather than 2, because Arbeit macht frei.

            As to “Gallic Wars”, I have noticed some unacceptable differences in English translations, like chapter mixed up (i.e. one of those I pasted comes as a different chapter in the English version), etc. In general, out of all Roman texts, I think the most valuable for the youth (if they were tought Latin that is) are of Seneca and of Plutarch’s (who was Greek!) “Parallel Lives”.

            Btw, few people realise that when the Romans came across the Greek thought, it was so advanced compared to the Roman culture that it was like those Irish monks bringing civilisation to those primitive Picts, who were centuries – if not millenias – behind.

            This reminds me of something: do you know that Germans, who always love to bullshit themselves in terms of them participating in the civilising process of their neighbours (in 13 century Poland they certainly were, but not in other periods), that those Germanic tribes took the bloomeries technology from the Slavic tribes (whose haplotypes can be traced in Europe back to 3,000 years?). Yep, that’s right – Germanic tribes did not know how to smelt iron from its oxides before they can across the Slavs.
            Now, it is quite possible that Slavs learned it from Celts who were rather good at that, and with whom they first came across around Mount Blanc – some claim, and if you go to Tyniec, they have Celtic artefacts in their museum (much later though – 10th and 11th century).

          • There’s no text that can’t be copied no matter what kind of block they try to put on it lads.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Yes but me and Coldblow are talking about having to type in the text What’s the use of copying a photo of 3O pages long document in PNG format if you cannot convert it into a Word format unless you are willing to spend thousands of euros into a software, which you would not be because that would make the whole enterprise economically absurd?

          • Truthist

            Option for avoiding or at least reducing much of the typing u do ;

            Print that document [ .png or .pdf or whatever unfriendly-to-MS Word ( or other Word-Processing)-application

            Scan with Optical Character Recognition software
            Abbyy Finereader or Omnipage are examples

            Different grades of these OCR Apps.
            Some come bundled free with 3-in-1 Printer-Scanner-Copier

            Save as :
            MS Word or other Word-Processing App.
            MS Excel or other Spreadsheet App.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Now, t h a t is a good advice. Thus far I was stuck with the services of Adobe, which is useless when it comes to some files (Adobe converts texts with lots of tabs and digits so badly, that if you are a fast-typer, you’d spend less time typing the whole document than availing of their conversion), and does not convert PNGs into Word at all.

            As my annual subscription with Adobe has just expired, it’s time to change my service provider into one of those you recommend: they are a bit pricey all right, but they surely cannot be worse with converting financial documents (my main field, this and Irish law) than Adobe…

            Dziekuje ;-) (Go raibh maith agat).

          • coldblow


            Just coming back to your reference to Seneca, I have read a selection of his letters. Also St Augustine (whom you don’t like I think), a small bit of Bede about the early Church in England (from O level at school), Virgil, some that early satirical piece (again school: Millionaire’s Banquet), Golden Ass (first half), a selection of Erasmus’s letters, a bit of Cicero (A level: Pro Murena) and a few bits and pieces I can’t think of just now.

            I have been working through Ovid’s Metamorphoses after reading a Book XIII (I think) which I got from the old school book cupboard. Towards the end of that book the writing (about the Cyclops and others I think) is so good I even noticed the poetry myself. I have taken a break from Ovid and for light relief I am re-reading the Latin translation of the second Harry Potter book. Talk about a difference in style. (The first one is even worse.) Why do adults read it?

            That passage I quoted about the Germans. I was so struck by it at the time that I even made an attempt to commit it to memory. For the Galli, of course, read the Irish. It reminds me of that famous occasion, at the height of the boom around 2006 (and much commented to on this blog) when the German ambassador noticed that, at a large meeting in Dublin, when an announcement was made for the owner of car reg no. XXX nobody admitted to owning it because it was not that year’s model.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            As to St Augustine, I mainly dislike his “Confessions” (so the only book he is known for, and one of the most famous books in western literature, or more precisely in what western literature was before it was taken over by “The Century of the Self”). Even more precisely, I dislike all “Confessions” apart from the last 3 books, which are more philosophical.

            Having said that, even as for his philosophical work, “Confessions” are very weak (I’ll come back to that at the end my comment).

            This book significance lies in starting the introspective tradition in western literature, pretty much absent in the Greek tradition (our secondary school teacher used to say that if you look at ancient Greek sculptures, their eyes have vacant looks, as if they were devoid of personal life – and she was a big fan of ancient Greece!). Cartesian Cogito was really only repetition of St Augustine musings on consciousness from Confession, although Descartes wrote it so much better.

            My dislike in “Confessions” started from the said secondary school teacher who really imbued us with conviction that it is God knows how good. At that time (so 15-17), I was an atheist and, actually, a staunch anti-Christian. My favourite author at the time was Nietzche, of whom I read everything – I mean literary, from the first to last letter he has ever written – and I actually jumped on a bus and went to Munich – 17 hours one way – only to buy “Also Sprach Zarathustra” in original.

            My anti-Christianism was based primarily on the grounds of misunderstaning Christian ethics (I dealth with the inglorious bits of Vatican’s history earlier, when I was in primary school) as pacifistic, thus – in my mind – anti-social (you know, “turning the other cheek”; now I know that the New Testament is nothing like that, and that “turning the other cheek” for example applies to ignoring insults, not to being actually physically attacked, let alone to letting attack those for whome you are responsible (as you know, Jesus says that when you travel, it is better to be going around town naked than with no sword).

            Sadly, knowing the Bible only from attending the mass is a very efficient tool of turning you into an atheist, because in Catholic Church in particular, they read the same few passages from the Bible over and over again, which is a) boring as fuck and b) results in believers never getting to know with the interesting parts of the New Testament and Book of Acts, and, of course, the Apocalypse (btw – did you know that when the Apocalypse says (in Rev 8:10–11):

            “The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”

            the Ukrainian word for the Wormwood is Chernobyl?)

            So coming back to Augustine, it is his “Confessions” that in my opinion he came a cropper; but other than that, I think that his Dialogues are one of the best philosophical works ever written, and actually better than most of Plato’s dialogues.
            It is also one of few philosophical works which are also great as literature (read: easy to read and beautiful in style), along with Platon’s Symposium, Berkeley’s Dialogues and the writings of Schopenhauer; of course, Sartre also had a great style, but Sartre was a bit stupid and besides, all he has done was to vulgarise Heidegger’s thought so that the French could understand it (also, personally Sartre was an incredible coward – like most of his compatriots during WWII – and a hypocrite – compare the Nazi-collaborator Sartre who spent the war in a luxury with the great Polish philosopher Roman Ingarden, who – knowing that he can be shot – decided to pick up the manuscript of his work on the existence of the world after the German soldier threw it away).

            Again to Augustin, what is interesting and little known is that in his work no one read, Retractiones, he rejected pretty much most of his views from the ‘Confessions’ period (he did it a few times – as you know, he was a Manichean before he converted to Christianity).

            Especially Augustin’s De libero arbitrio is in my opinion in the top 10 most important philosophical books ever written, as nothing much has really been added to the problem of free will in view of God’s precognition – even though Leibniz really tried (I would place De libero arbitrio on that list along with Plato’s ‘Republic’ and ‘Parmenides’, Aristotles ‘Nichomachean Ethics’, Anzelm’s ‘Proslogion’, Schopenhauer’s ‘World as Will and Representation’, Wittgenstein’s ‘Tractatus’ and ‘Philosophical Investigations’, Kripke’s ‘Naming and Necessity’ and Plantinga’s ‘God, freedom and evil’ it’s difficult to single out 10 best philosophical books as I own over 200 and read over a 1,000, but this would be my selection (necessary would be the add 3 articles: Russel’s “On Denoting”, Quine’s “Two dogmas of empirism”, and Kazimierz Ajdukiewicz’s 1930s aricle on radical conventionalism, important because Ajdukiewicz (himself inspired by Henri Poincare, the only 20th century real French philosoher, apart from Bergson – if we do not count Bergson as Jewish due to him being immersed in the tradition of Spinoza) considered (and later on rejected) a viewpoint that Oxbridge philosophers has only started to embrace in a systemic way – yet not as systematic as Ajdukiewicz – many decades later:


            I would have listened to that song literary every day – so much it suited me somehow (both music and lyrics, which I had in a front of me as if it was a Bible) as if there was a spell put on me.

            Last but not least, Augustine was born on the same day as I was born, as so was Robert Louis Stevenson, and despite not liking ‘Confessions’, I always felt huge affinity to both, with their angel-devil-switch nature (I read Stevenson as a child, all his major books were available in Polish).

            Because of that affinity, when I was in secondary school, I was convinced that this song was about me:


            P.S. On a non-philosophical, but rather very spooky note, I wonder if you have ever heard of Marcello Pellegrino Ernetti – was this an elaborate hoax, and if so – why? Vatican can be accused of all sorts of sins, but not something of that kind of cheap stunts (provided chronovsor was a hoax, because:


          • coldblow


            I was struck by the latter part of the Confessions, of course. The almost contemporary feel of the incident of the thief (who gets away with it). His friends on the way to the games. (Likewise, when I got round to reading Don Quixote last year (with the help of Peter Motte’s excellent (early 18thC?) translation) I was struck by the same thing. In fact it was more contemporary, as it were, as it reminded me of the England of my youth when everyone had not yet travelled all the way into the mass fantasy we now find ourselves living in.) I read a volume of his letters but found them very difficult to follow.

            I only got a computer at home in Jan 2015 and I was pleased to learn recently that there is some (but not much) spoken Latin on the web. This is a good example that might interest you as it is (in a way) about philosophy.


            I agree with you about learning the Bible from mass. I really don’t think many people at all pay attention to the readings. It is often the case that they cough and fidget through them while then listen attentively to the sermon (it is the other way round with me). The readers don’t seem to understand what they are reading either. For example, how many people would have noticed which gospels were read on Palm Sunday (Matthew) and Good Friday (John) or noticed the differences?

            I once brought a small Danish book about philosophy home from holiday (it was left in the hotel) which argued that you really should make every attempt to read the subject in the original texts. I have a book in Gaelic about it by Diarmuid Ó Grainne which I haven’t yet got round to reading although I bought it nearly ten years ago. Baothléim sa Dorchadas I think.

            Nietsche. I think the French intellectual Michel Onfray was also infatuated by him in his youth. He knows a lot about philosophy but makes a point of saying that he did it largely on his own and writes for a popular audience. He also wrote a book critizing Freud (in particular his deceit – much like Richard Webster did). It goes without saying however that I don’t share his political views. His are conventionally atheist and leftist.

            I was never attracted by atheism myself or by any of the Left’s notions. I had a poor view of the hippy generation as I was a child when they arrived and they appeared to me to look physically like adults (albeit with long hair and strange clothing) but behaved like petulant children, and were also dismissive of real children and cold towards the. I refused to join in the with the student campaign about ending disinvestment in South Africa because 1) they were aping the 68-ers, 2) I didn’t think it was their business to protest about world events and 3) they clearly knew nothing about world events anyway.

          • coldblow

            Just to add about the Left. Nothing, absolutely nothing, has led me to question my youthful views about the Left. In my 20s and even 30s I grew to accept that some of their ideals were desirable but I never accepted the atheism and the dafter stuff (which now dominates), including Marxism and drugs. I was probably most affected by the Leftish Fantasy by the music as I enjoyed progressive and other rock music although the few live concerts I attended I loathed with a vengeance. Then around the age of 23 or 24 I found I could no longer listen to it, for some reason.

            I was surprised in later years to learn that people listen to the lyrics and that many of them are mainly attracted by the lyrics rather than by the music. I barely know a few lines of contemporary lyrics and I think most of them are terrible in every way (including Bowie, whom David admires, although the Beatles, who were among the chief culprits in the cultural revolution, wrote witty and usually interesting songs.

            Now I have a different view of the Left. I have less time for it than ever, even as a child, as I have a better understanding of what it is and how it came about. In particular I am very conscious now of how deceitful it is, how the evidence for its causes just doesn’t exist.

            This was all helped by my awareness as a child and teenager that I was cleverer than everyone else around me. I know it sounds bad to say it but that is simply how it was. I went to a selective grammar school and still used to come top in up to half of the subjects (it was 6 out of 11 when I was sixteen including physics, and (what I had quite forgotten about) chemistry for some reason, but never maths). So when I saw stupid ideas I was confident enough to dismiss them out of hand. Of the three pillars of modern though (as I see it, I know you have a slightly different one, perhaps the addition of Nietsche), Darwin, Freud and Marx, I was always very suspicious of all of them, and I have a much better idea now why that suspicion was justified.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Just to respond briefly to your arresting and multilayered 2 comments, as I now have a bottle of Australian Merlot in me and watching visualisations of future Yellowstone Park and Laacher See supervolcanos eruptions (trying to figure out will it cover Ireland and Poland), I can only say that:

            1. Having a glimpse of your link with the lecture in Latin I am surprised that such a things even exists (good pronunciation of that guy btw).
            2. Would like to inform you that you might very much enjoy of the songs of an Estonian a capella band, who was very popular in Poland, especially among young Catholic student attending masses in the Trident Rite; they translated Black Sabbath songs into Latin and issued an album with them; their concert in Katowice was excellent; here is Black Sabbath’s War Pigs (Verres Militares) in Latin:


            3. As you know, I was also into prog (without lyrics), though perhaps not as much as I was into Chopin and Wagner. But I was never a lefty in terms that all lefties are socialist (some of them are unware of it) and as my parents never worked for the state, I never was.

            When I was an atheist (age 10-24), I was a libertarian.
            Nietzsche was not a lefty btw. Nietzsche was anti-egalitarian,. anti-socialist and anti-utilitarian. His main criticism of New Testament was based on his idea that Paul made it a socialist ideology (it was not though, because inherent to socialism is coercion).
            As an atheist, I was a libertarian. In fact, long before I started to believe in God (so after age 24) I was in favour of religion as an agnostic purely because on grounds of the Church introducing the idea of hierarchy and delayed gratification.
            In fact, I knew so much about Vatican’s dark history by the age of 15 that everyone who discovers it in his or her 20s or even 40s and gets excited about Vatican cover-ups is in my opinion a bit of an eejit: it’s as if a guy age 50 came to me, pointed a finger at me and said: you, Polish, come here – do you know that there was this guy called Hitler?
            Btw – it was recently revealed that Pope Benedict (then Card. Ratzinger received in the 80s death threats and had to hide in the… US embassy (from Vatican!).
            And that KGB penetration of Vatican might have started not in before the Second Vatican Council, but in the 1950s.

            4. Every teenager in Ireland should have a course on those lefty thinkers you name plus Frankfurt School to help him/her to RECOGNISE leftism. In fact, I wonder if anyone would be allowed to run an academic course on the Frankfurt School and speak critically of them…

    • McCawber

      UK won’t be able to tackle.
      The people of NI will vote No to a united Ireland.
      UK will go thru the motions, if even.
      A lot of people in the Republic would vote No too but not enough.
      The freeloaders would all vote Yes thinking that it wouldn’t cost them.
      They’d be wrong – A united Ireland would bury this country economically.
      And that’s the EU game, they are not our friends.
      A United Ireland would suit the UK too.
      Our politicians need to very careful that they don’t fall into a hole or take any ownership of this united ireland project.
      Always worth bearing in mind – the French think of us as Anglo Irish.

      • Truthist




        That post of ur’s is just 1 of quite a few posts & threads in current blog that are deserving of being copied & pasted into its own word-processing document & having ready-reckoner title for ease of extraction.

        • Truthist

          However, I have doubts about ur view of how the French think of us.

          Perhaps, different strands have different views of us.
          And, perhaps there is a common general view of us that is or is not or is a complication what u report.

    • McCawber

      Enda Kenny would love to be the Taoiseach to reunite Ireland.
      He’ll try to put off resigning because a united ireland is “a very prospect” as he might put it.
      The EU don’t want an Irish leader who can think never mind think for himself.
      Charlie or Reynolds or Lemass maybe but Bertie like Enda wouldn’t be able to resist the ego trip of being Mr United Ireland. Nir would Martin

    • McCawber

      a) and b) = c) where c) = ignorance either in knowledge or just ignoring the impossibility of the proposal for some political reason.
      c) in Trump’s case probably – Mr Kenny and Mrs May you lectured me well here’s my repky – fuck you! Both.

  25. Deco

    More EU Rope, anybody


    As John Bruton said, there is a need for “more EU patriots”. Yep. More people who are prepared to serve the new imperial racket.

    Brute also admired John Redmond who sent young men to their death in defence of the old empire. No

    Of course Brute is an EU patriot. He is on multiple pensions. And he is also the main lobbyists of the Irish Financial Services Casino. The rich always win, the workers pay taxes.

    On the bright side….how much is Phil “Irish Water” Hogan getting ?

    What about Pee Flynn’s pension ? Is that taking a hit ?

    And Suds – Suds has many pensions. And we know that Suds loves giving instructions to the Greeks on how they must squeeze themselves harder.

    All those illustrious boyos are paid to piss on the rest of us. There is something rotten with the world, when they are allowed present themselves as the leaders of advanced thought.

    They are the anti-civilization posing as the civilization.

    A bit like these commanders. Except unlike Suds and co, they got too close to the plebs.


    Would a horse support Suds ?

    How about the EU leaving the Greeks alone, to write off their entire debt, and start again ? It is the decent thing to do.

    • McCawber

      Should my missus outlive me, she will only get 50% of my pension so what’s the problem?

      • michaelcoughlan

        Bad news for you.

        Your pension will be stolen from you long before either you or her get it.


        • McCawber

          Based on some of the advice available here, I’ve been trying to hedge my bets but needless to say I’m fearful that you (and others) will be proven orrect.

  26. Paris to Marseille, nice – I’ll be making that same trip in July, looking forward to it. Haven’t decided yet whether to get the train or drive it. What do you recommend lads?

    I have less than zero interest in the French election though. Don’t know, don’t care.

    Although I did read yesterday that Marcon is 39 and his wife is 64. How odd. Don’t fancy your’s much mate.

    Mind you, my own wife-to-be is 22 years younger than me so I guess people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    • Not the same. Macron is a boy toy and you are a baby snatcher.:)

    • Deco

      To be honest, the fact that he is full of nonsense is a far bigger impediment.

      How exactly is this going to make the EU more credible ?

      It merely confirms that there is too much power in Brussels and in the Berlin-Paris dual agreement process.

      All that is missing is Schulz to win in Germany, and then there is a mess, worse that Merkel/Hollande.

  27. terryhewett

    Are! that weasel word “nativist.” Are the people of Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales nativist? If they are what are the implications.

    • Nativists might draw together to expel alien invaders thus preserving their own culture and heritage rather than allowing it all to be absorbed and destroyed by the foreign culture of the invading force.

      There is now doubt that World War Three is far advanced and it is the planned assault to destroy the Western Industrial Democracies by all means available.


  28. Truthist

    Israel Won the 1st Round of the French Election

    By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor of Veterans Today website

    26 April 2017


  29. Truthist

    Insider Confirms Illuminati Want Us Dead

    April 25, 2017

    Dutch financier Ronald Bernard confirms the Illuminati is “an annihilating force that hates our guts.
    It hates creation. It hates life.
    And it will do anything to destroy us completely.”

    He also confirms that all secret services serve these Satanists, who use child sacrifices to blackmail their

    Editor’s Note
    This has had broad circulation but the text is not widely available.
    Many people do not have 40 minutes to watch the video.

    Irma Schiffers in conversation with Ronald Bernard

    Here is the transcript of the English subtitles.

    Courtesy of Dick Eastman

    (Excerpts by henrymakow.com)


    Bernard: …One of the things that I found out… is about secret services; you think they are there to serve and protect a people, country, etc. but they actually turn out to be criminal organizations, to be more precise, the system is heavily so. We are talking about financing wars, creating wars, so basically creating a lot of misery in this world. So lots of conflict. And then I think to myself, if only people knew what the world is really like. Secret services will stop at nothing. Nothing. But they also have their flows of money, because they are trading in drugs or weapons or, for that matter, people. All that money has to go somewhere. Everything has to be financed.

    Schiffers: You say “if,” but you could confirm that they are doing this. All of them?

    Bernard: All of them. Yes. So the entire world as we think we know it is just an illusion we believe in. Which is something you find out in this line of work. And where it all went wrong for me, to put it that way,

    Schiffers: Yes, I feel the same way. All right. Can you tell me the worst thing that has happened that caused the tipping point in your situation?

    Bernard: …I was training to become a psychopath and I failed. I didn’t complete the training and didn’t become a psychopath. My conscience came back and the most difficult part for me was because I had such a great status there. I was successful. I was trusted with the people playing at this level. To put it carefully, most of these people followed a not very mainstream religion. So you have Catholics, Protestants, all sort of religions. These people, most of them, were Luciferians. And then you can say, religion is a fairy tale, God doesn’t exist, none of that is real. Well, for these people it is truth and reality. And they served something immaterial, that they called Lucifer. And I also was in contact with those circles, only I laughed at it because to me they were just clients. So I went to places called Churches of Satan…

    Bernard: Yes, In my opinion the darkness and evil is within the people themselves. I didn’t make the connection yet. So I was a guest in those circles and it amused me greatly to see all those naked women and the other things. It was the good life. And then, at some point, I was invited, which is why I am telling you all this, to participate in sacrifices abroad. That was the breaking point. [Murder of] Children…

    Bernard: (shakes head ) No. And then I started slowly to break down. I lived through quite a lot as a child myself and the reality touched me deeply. Everything changed. but that is the world I found myself in. And I started to refuse assignments within my job. I could no longer do it. Which made me a threat. For them, of course. I was no longer capable of functioning optimally. My performance stated to shake and I refused tasks. I had not participated. The purpose of the whole thing, eventually, is that world is that they have everybody in their pocket and blackmailing me proved to be very hard if I look back on it. They wanted to do that through those children. And that broke me.


  30. Deco

    What is it about infrastructure plannign in this country, that it is played like a political football ?

    The majority of people know that the new location for the Children’s Hospital is has extreme accessibility issues. It is in the middle of a traffic bottleneck.

    Why is not being built in Connolly, on the M50, so that everybody can access it ?

    Even most of Dublin know finds Connolly Hospital more accessible than accessible than the location that the FG party has picked. Varadkhar has even deliberately made sure that locating it outside his constituency will ensure his long term leadership ambitions.

    And now there is another political football concerning the National Maternity Hospital. They one thing that all the fools can agree upon is building it in D4. This effectively makes access from the North and Western suburbs of the city, much slower.

    If you are going to build a National Maternity Hospital, how about locating it near the places where you are building new homes ?

    It is abundantly clear that nobody in South East County Cublin allows new houses to build in their area, in any scale any more. Because it is seen as detrimental to their perceived wealth.

    Build it, in West Dublin, as close as possible to the M50. Preferably also close to a train station like Coolmine.

    Or maybe we can do something better. I have a suggestion – build it in Naas (N7, and other routes) or Oranmore (N4, and other national routes).

    This nonsense of building hospitals in the middle of traffic headaches is perplexing.

    This is a case of not merely doing it once – but doing it twice.

    Both projects are completely oblivious to the needs of the patients and the public.

    The newspapers, the politicians and the radio stations are completely dishonest, and seem to have no intention of caring for the interests of the general public.

    The economics of the NCH are completely absurd. Apart from anything else they are moving functions away from Tallaght which is a cheaper location. And a far more accessible location.

    But do not worry. There is a solution – the relatives of the patients will get scelped via parking charges.

    And there you have it – how the state operates in Ireland. As a parasite to suck off the people, whilst making the least intelligent choices, every time.

    • McCawber

      Parking charges?
      What parking? There won’t be space to swing a cat so most of the parking will be reserved for important people.

  31. Deco

    Macron – in his own words.

    Macron at a feminism conference: “The identity is “A” equals “A”. There exist at least “A’s” and “B’s”. I didn’t want that “A” equals “B”.”

    Macron during an interview: “You don’t want to live in a box, do you? I don’t. And so, our life always happens “at the same time”, it is more complex than what we want to reduce it to.”

    Macron writing in “Le Journal du Dimanche”: “I have always accepted the vertical dimension, the transcendence, but at the same time, it has to be fully anchored in the immanent, in the material.”

    Macron delivering a speech: “I, my life, my memories, they are made of childhood memories of my grandmother and that professor of philosophy, whom I have never seen… and yet, I have the feeling I know his face.”

    Another Macron interview: “What constitutes the French spirit is a constant aspiration to the universal, that is, this tension between what has been and the part of identity… this strict ipseity, and the aspiration to a universal, that is to say, that which escapes us.” [ed. note: “ipseity” = “selfhood” – a term to be found – no kidding – in the “Dictionary of Untranslatables”; apparently French deconstructionist philosopher Jaques Derrida used the term ‘ipséité’ frequently in his writings. We incidentally also have to thank Derrida for books like “Specters of Marx” and sayings like “To pretend, I actually do the thing: I have therefore only pretended to pretend. And lastly, from another interview comes what we would at this stage call Macron’s piece de résistance… something for true connoisseurs, the high point – so to speak the Mount Everest of his pseudo-philosophizing and improbable reasoning. Just a few sentences of oddly poetic nonsense, declaimed with such moving sincerity one sits spellbound as the magniloquent imagery unfolds – until either the last sentence, or… We made the terrible mistake of watching the facial expression of the TV presenter, who listened to it live when it premiered and managed to preserve a deadpan, slightly bemused expression throughout, with a degree of self-control worthy of a Shaolin warrior monk. We probably sprained something in the process (the septum transversum? If Macron were in the US, we could sue him now). So here goes, Macron has the word:

    “We all have our roots. And because we are all deeply rooted, there are trees next to us… there are rivers, there are fish… There are brothers and sisters…”


    He will get elected.

    He has been feted by Merkel and the EU Commission.

    And let’s be honest here – it is all meaningless nonsense.

    But it gets better.

    Wait until Beppe Grillo becomes Italian PM, and Martin Schulz becomes German Chancellor.

    Remember – there are fishes, and there are rivers !!!!

    He sounds even worse than the Taoiseach who met the man holding two pints in one hand, the other day.

  32. Deco

    And therein lies the challenge.

    We have not responded with a plan to Brexit, and the change in British competitiveness.

    We have not responded with a plan to Trump, and the push for changing tax and investment scenarios.

    And in all likelihood we will not respond with a plan to counteract Hollande 2.0 in the Elysee Palace, producing verbal rubbish.

  33. Deco


    Why Trump cannot cut taxes….

    ….and why Ireland needs to get down the largesse of the institutional state, by having more efficient state investment, and less waste in the public sector.

    Proposition – Locate both the National Maternity Hospital AND the National Childrens Hospital in the same location.

    Suitable prime location is on the M50, @ Connolly Memorial in Blanchardstown. In fact make Blanchardstown the main hospital for the East region. Do it like other large cities do it. One large hyper efficient complex, that is easy to access, and has efficiency of scale.

    Proposition – Build the DART-U.

    Proposition – Build higher density residential in Dublin, Cork, and Galway. And then plan public transport accordingly. In particular for young workers, who are on lower wages, and are undermined by the high cost of motoring.

    Proposition – Sort out rail freight, and get the national fuel bill down. That includes the possibility of reopening the Athlone Mullingar to facilitate more freight into Dublin port. And also better alignment of freight transport via Rosslare and Bellview in the South East.

    Proposition – Wind down the “commercial” Port of Dun Laoghaire, and develop as an amenity, for Dublin, instead. Dublin needs a seaside amenity for yachting, and marine. The current mess is a malinvestment, and is a waste of public money. Hand it over to DLCC and terminate the DLHC quango, which is wasting money.

    • Deco

      Last proposal there – have an amenity of scale. So that it is a pleasure for people to enjoy. Currently it is an underperforming liability that features expensive parking, and over rate quangocrats, living off the proceeds.

      State investment done right is an asset to society.

      State investment that is designed to include ongoing losses every year, and mismanagement of resources, is a theft against the people.

      • Pedro Nunez

        Sorry we’ve never evolved to a functional nation state, as you said we don’t elect our ‘commander & chief’, we have ‘muppets’ appointed by the parties without a vision perish or do they?
        ROI is run on vox pop, joe duffy show type sound bite, ‘full of sound and fury, a tale told by an idiot?’
        These 2 articles summarise modern Eire; http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/o-reilly-says-current-republic-a-perversion-of-1916-ideals-1.1477902

        and; http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/deep-down-we-irish-would-prefer-to-be-occupied-1.1412376

        Ireland was never a nation state like Portugal, its part of ‘the Sceptred Isles’; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YiOXiGw6g
        We’re so ‘fizz and no sizzle’ now we can’t even put a decent song into the Eurovision, a vertitable ‘straw man’ but no doubt rainbow nation

        • I was thinking the same thing myself today.

          Ireland is a failed state.

          This satirical piece would be funny if it wasn’t true:


        • coldblow

          I read the Emily O’Reilly article and it is terrible. The executive not deferring to the legislative? The Dáil marginalized? One big reason is that it is a glorified county council rubber stamping (if that, even) EU laws. The Catholic church a ‘private organisation’ to which state activities were delegated? This is what happened everywhere else in the world. The state dues far less damage if it isn’t given too big a role. Human rights, civil rights, state abuse? Fantasy, and a dangerous one. If she is still the FOI Commissioner I wonder how much she is paid.

        • coldblow

          Good article by John Waters though, as expected. He is right about the Irish not wanting to take responsibility but this is now becoming the case everywhere else in Europe, at least. I am reading Peter Hitchens’s A Brief History of Crime, about the British police and judicial system and he also makes the point that the police there were originally set up as to represent the citizenry as embodied in the policeman on the beat. This changed in the 60s (like everything else) with cars and gadgetry and now the police are like other countries where they embody state power against the citizen. In justice personal responsibility has been abolished and criminals are indulged. With no deterrent prison numbers are proportionately far higher than at the start of the 20thC (when you could find yourself serving a week or two inside for swearing in public, public drunkenness or sleeping rough).

        • coldblow

          What has become of John Waters by the way? He was hounded by outraged liberal hysterics after ‘Pantigate’ and has disappeared.

  34. “”Most individual investors went to government indoctrination camps for 12 years, drank fluoridated water and have watched mainstream media Fake News propaganda their whole lives, so these are not the kind of people you want to be running in the same direction with!

    And, even worse, most institutional investors, while they went to private schools, they were still taught mostly useless and wrong information and then went for another 4 or 8 years of further indoctrination in colleges where they mostly learned absolutely useless Keynesian economics.

    The fact that both are maniacally bullish at this time is probably a good sign that you should turn the other direction!

    Follow that old saying your grandma used to tell you, “Don’t do what fluoridated, brainwashed, government educated, communist economics trained statists do.””"


  35. Grzegorz Kolodziej


    Monsieur Macron, t’es rien qu’un petit connard. Va te faire enculer – vous ne serez jamais plus qu’une prostituée allemande!

  36. McCawber

    State will provide €300m towards private clinics in the new hospital.
    So people like me will benefit – brilliant
    People like – the ones who pay for everything twice usually unlike the freeloading water protesters.
    I know Adam, I know.

  37. goldbug







    • michaelcoughlan

      That is one super contribution of a post and link.

    • Lucifarian influences. Otherwise known as pure evil.

    • Truthist

      Sorry for delay in replying to u Goldbug ;
      I traveling many kilometres by land AND with no sleep NOR internet facility ;
      Thus are my reasons.

      Also, I need to view the video with scrutiny ;

      I concur with ur understood insight ;
      “The Battle” is SPIRITUAL ; “ULTIMATELY”
      Evil does not come from outside “ultimately” ;
      But, rather, it comes from within ;
      WITHIN man’s heart.
      Yes, of course, we can be ever so tempted by outside influences ;
      But, the final say for one to succumb to evil rests with one’s own heart ; The spiritual heart.

      Them’s that is wrecking evil upon Syria currently have also being targeting Irish nation ever since we converted from “Snake Worship” to being genuinely Christian, & thence the promulgators of Christianity & the Classics to Western Europe during the “dark ages” ;
      The Vikings were the “proxy” force for the Dreadful Few to target the Irish Christian Monasteries.
      And, now the Dreadful Few have sponsored ISIS / ISIL to target Syria & other Semites in vicinity of Israel.

      Irish State’s Army Ranger “Wing” have alumni guilty of training ISIS.

      Stream of consciousness writing herein ;
      As promised, I will return with better response to that most important link u give above.

      U do arrive with pithy valuable posts Goldbug.
      Much thanks.

  38. michaelcoughlan

    Brexit is a bad idea my bollocks;


    And if the Uk move to a skills based immigration policy then they should see the dole queues dropping and a massive increase in the velocity of money locally.

    • McCawber

      Britain is an and much easier to defend against attack of any kind.
      Whereas Ireland doesn’t “seem” to have that advantage.
      In simplistic terms Ireland’s strategy should be to stick with the EU until (fill in list of reasons here).
      When ‘until’ comes Ireland can simply change horses.
      And it will be that easy.
      The UK abd the US would welcome us with open arms.
      Our main focus (and I think it is) should be to maintain very good relations with the UK (stop slagging Mr Trump off too) and to try to come up with as good a damage limitation solution to our border issue.
      Someone mentioned creative thinking – I’m all ears.

      • McCawber

        Meant Britain is an island state

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        Realistically, I don’t think Ireland having more influence than waiting (while repeating its mantra re Common Travel Area and stuff) for what comes out of the word games (before Brexit r e a l l y begins, it is all word games) between Germany/France, US and the UK, and when this or the other outcome is likely, then try to be more vociferous.
        As critical we are about the Taoiseach Enda Kenny, he is trying to form some alliance in Europe regarding the Irish position, but does it in an ameteurish way, on the lines ‘we need this’, rather than identifying issues important for other countries and promising political support for those issues in exchange for supporting the Irish position.

        We have to bear in mind that the attitude like ‘we want the CTA because we need it so much’ is going to have an opposite effect. In politics, the only two things that count is what you can offer to me and you can threaten me with.

        In terms of giving (politically), Ireland has not been consistent: on the one hand it says it needs Britain, on the other hand it has been consistently voting against Britain in the EU Parliament (ie no Irish MEP voted against charging the UK with 60bn euro Brexit bill, while Polish MEPs did).

        The result is that for the last 2 years, neither Britain nor the EU nor the US are consulting anything with Ireland – Ms May’s face when she met Taoiseach (like: ‘I don’t really want to here, I wish it could be done in 5 minutes’) was very telling – not like the faces of British PMs visits to Poland, and so far, there has been 4 to each one in Ireland.

        What I am afraid is that even though Taoiseach’s preeliminary agreement with countries like Holland vis-a-vis corporation tax is a move in good direction (this was the issue that he should have raised in Warsaw, as the whole eastern Europe would have been in favour of it – but instead, he only spoke about the CTA and Garda scandal at his press conference in Warsaw), it might turn out insignificant given that President Trump is going to cut the corporation tax to 15%.

        This will have an immensely bigger impact on Ireland than Brexit, because the US, not Britain, is Ireland’s biggest export market (actually, right now Belgium is a bigger export market for Ireland than Britain).

        This is what puzzles me – it’s not new, many people saw that coming, I was writing too that the US will do it eventually, and even the beloved by Marian Finucane and her ilk Mumbama promised to undercut Ireland in corporation tax, and the only reason he didn’t do it was because he was a weak and stupid president (“Our President is a slow learner”, said one of Mumbama’s own DEMOCRATIC governors).


        Here is a thing: everyone here laments – the Irish government is doing nothing, the EU is doing this.
        But why has the Irish diaspora in the US done nothing to help the Irish position? Their inertia in this year’s election is, I have to say, a very damning condemnation of their political stupidity, if they failed to formulate any demands pre-election to Candidate Trump.

        Sure the Irish diaspora in the US was second in the US in terms of influence to probably only Jewish (though in the 19th century, the most influential diaspora was actually not Jewish, but German/Scandinavian) – so how come they ended up not placing any of their people in Donald Trump’s camp (I cannot even recall any meeting of Candidate Trump with the Irish diaspora) while Polish diaspora did?

        There is this one-sided attitude: what can Ireland do for the Irish diaspora, while the correct order is – what can THEY do for Ireland around the election time?

        And the problem is: they did fuck all, and Ireland is now paying the price by not being asked by any powerful state about its opinion – neither by the UK, nor by the US.

        Same here: people rightly complain about the last, I don’t know – 80 years of Irish governments (I exclude 90s to mid 2000s period, as it was Ireland’s golden age- I mean, up to 2007 COULD HAVE BEEN Ireland’s golden age had the amazing growth not been wasted on houses and trinkets, and had the euro not been adopted).


        Who elected those governments?

        • McCawber

          Do you know if he was asked a question about the Gardai or did he raise the issue himself.
          He’s the most amateurish Taoiseach we’ve ever had.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            He was asked a question by the Irish press representatives who seemed to have only been interested in the Garda Commissioner, but he should have come to Warsaw with a pre-planned negotiating agenda to talk about, both with the Ms Szydlo (‘we pledge to do this, and you pledged to do this’) and the press. Also, the timing of the Taoiseach’s visit could not have been worse: he came to Warsaw just a day after Chancellor Merkel (who tried to put pressure on the Polish government and she met with her agents in the German embassy – sorry, with the leaders of the Polish opposition) and before the attempted coup on December 16 (attempts to overthrow the government via blocking the budget from passing, demonstrations of KOD and former commi agents, closing of the Polish airspace of which I informed in details posting screens from radars, jamming public TV signal, Donald Tusk arriving in Wroclaw and holding anti-government speech, and all other things that happened between Merkels and Taoiseach’s visits to Warsaw and 16 Dec 2016).

            A few days after Taoiseach’s visit, Polish PM had a car accident that is now likely looking as orchestrated by ex-commi or foreign agents (along with 3 other serious car accidents Polish President and Polish Defence Minister had within a short space of time), and she had to be taken to hospital by helicopter.

            Before the Taoiseach’s visit, Donald Trump sent Rudolph Giuliani to talk about the deployment of the US troops and offer the US intelligence help in preventing the planned coup, of which both the US and Polish secret service knew.

            So in the middle of all of this, when the fate and even lives of the Polish government was threatened, Mr Kenny comes to Warsaw and demands from Poland that it pledges its support for the Common Travel Area (which is in the interest of Polish citizens in Irelanda and the UK anyway – he should have rather brought the subject of opposing the Carolingian Europe’s plans of tax harmonisation), and he spents most of his press conference talking about Noreen O’Sullivan.

            For people in Poland not particularly interested in foreign politcs or Ireland (or both), they might have thought “who is this guy and what actually does he want from us?; is he sent by Ms Merkel or by Ms May?”.

            The Taoiseach should have received some briefing on the political situation in Poland that month, and instead, I suffer from the impression that he only knew what he read from people like Mr Derek Scally.

            Having said that, he gave a very balanced and good interview for the leading Polish daily “Rzeczpospolita”, which was good diplomatically because he had lots of warm words but said nothing, which is much better than if he had sad something.

            At least he didn’t leave an impression that would have made him disliked in Poland.

            So all in all, I think I blame the Irish press even more from him because decades of their misinformation about non-Irish and non-British affairs resulted in the Taoiseach choosing the worst timing for his visit (this is like someone visiting Ireland before the peace negotiations with Britain and asking Michael Collins to support the Faroe Island’s fishery case during the IRA Peace Treaty talks in London with Lloyd Boy George.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            I also think that it was not good from the public relations and soft power perspective that the Prime Minister of a country who is soliciting other’s country’s support in policing the Common Travel Area (at that time, against Germany and in turbelent times for the country he visits) shows on his press conference that he is not able to control even his own police.


            Who told those idiots among some of the Irish journalists to bring it up specifically in that place, at that time?
            Are they playing for Ireland?

          • McCawber

            Yeah thought so – that would be our press – wash our dirty linen in public.
            They probably asked him something just as stupid when he met Trump.
            Are they really just dickheads or is someone filling a browb envelope for them.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “or is someone filling a browb envelope for them.”

            I wouldn’t exclude that. Of course, I don’t know, but when I first reported on it here – this was the same or the next day – my first impression was that the Taoiseach, unprepared as he is (I never said that our Taoiseach was a match for von Clausewitz or Sun-Tzu strategic depth of thought), was being
            s a b o t a g e d by some of the Irish press by swarming him with questions about the Garda Commissioner (they could have done it in Ireland, in the morning, or in the evening, in Ireland at the airport), when more serious issues were at stake – such as law and tax harmonisation in Europe.

            I also commented after Taoiseach’s visit to Warsaw, and not without some bitterness from my side, that I here on this blog made public pretty much ALL details about O’Sullivan MONTHS before they became the main headline for a few weeks in Ireland, and that no Irish newspaper was willing to publish my allegations about the Garda Commissioner at the time (I have written evidence I tried; some of the things I revealed before Ms O’Sullivan filled the headlines of Irish newspapers are still not being touched on in the media, like a connection between her husband and, as it is called in Garda high inner circles – Operation Mizen, aimed at surveilling the social media content in Ireland, and not for anti-terrorism purposes – because that I could even agree with – but for political purposes).

            In fact I remember having met with immediate and viscious attack on this very blog when I commented on the extent and arbitrarness on phone tapping in Ireland as enshrined in Irish legislation.

            I am not letting anyone tell me talk me into believing that this is a trend everywhere now and that we are all controlled by, I don’t know, CIA or the New World Order, BECAUSE I’m very much aware of the surveillance legislation in both the UK and Ireland, and I know that despite all this freemasonary stuff in the UK which I don’t deny and never did, there A LOT MORE transparency in terms of surveillance and within the police in the UK than there is in Ireland: what results in over 100 page long reports on phone tapping in the UK, in Ireland is year by year approved by one man in one sentence, with no justification whatsover as to who was tapped and why.

            If Ireland had a proper intelligence service like a normal country (with transparent recruitment proceedures) rather than outsourcing it to private companies in the UK, then this mess would not have happened.

            I even wrote to some newspapers, following the Garda Commissioner scandal, asking them why they have not published my letter containing the very same information that erupted in Ireland when Taoiseach was in Poland, and why is this a big news now.

            So perhaps the timing of leaking this information about Ms O’Sullivan to Irish press was not accidental, and it could have been even one person who deliberately chose that timing – the rest might have just followed that leak with a bovine passiveness; or – as you say – some might have been handed in a brown envelope to ask those questions to disrupt the Taoiseach’s negotiations with PM Szydlo regarding CTA; which one was true, I don’t know.

            All I know is that Enda Kenny was visibly unprepared to talk about Irish own dirty laundry in Poland, about which – mind you! – he didn’t know, because the scandal erupted PRECISELY when he was away.

            I many times wrote about links of the majority of Polish journalists (and previous Polish foreign ministers) to German foundations, now I’d like to remind you that Mr Derek Scally – Ireland’s main “authority” in Polish affairs – was writing his columns for the Anti-Irish Times on Poland FROM BERLIN (until I pointed it out).
            And that the Irish Examiner chose as the ‘voice of Poland’ Mr Slawomir Sierakowski, whose magazin and club “Krytyka Polityczna” is in his OWN admission in over 90% sponsored by foreign foundations, mainly German and Soros’.


            Are they just dickheads or are they traitors, those who leaked it on that very day and diverted the press conference attention from CTA and tax harmonisation?

            I hope that they are just dickheads, McCawber. I hope that they are not Lord Haw Haws, because if they are, then the problem of the Irish media would be much more difficult to rectify than just by replacing dickheads with people with brains (I know from personal contacts that they are some people with brains even in the RTE – doing research – but they are stopped from being promoted, and they materials never see the light).
            Those who occupy prominent positions are, with the exception of Pat Kenny, so fucking dumb that when a Polish politician visited Ireland in 2015, one Irish TV journalist thought that in WWII Poland was… on the side of the Nazi Germany.
            P.S. Of course, there is one thing that has derailed the post-Brexit agenda of the Carolingian Europe: Donald Trump. Under Obama, Britain was to detach and the continental Europe was to be totally left to Germany’s devices…

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Of course, there are more intelligent journalists than Pat Kenny (i.e. Ian O’Doherty) – but I am talking about the firt league in terms of earnings (and the person who interviewed that politician and accused him of being a Nazi because his grandfather was in the Home Army – she thougth that Home Army was the Polish Waffen-SS – would have been in the high second league of salaries; fortunately that interview was then cut from the main news, but it was aired in one of the Polish televisions).

            At the end of the day, McCawber, it is rather simple: there are only 2 TV channles in Ireland if we exclude TG4 (actually my favourite except for their occasional promotion of communism) to Polish over 10; around 5 Irish regular titles national titles dealing with politics, to Polish at least 30; and no foreign Irish correspondents – everything comes to Ireland filtered from abroad, ie via the Democratic Party or Soros’s foundations (in various mutations).

            It’s just there is no real competition in the Irish media market, and because there is no real competition, there is no real offer.
            Of course, critics would say that Ireland is on the Press Freedom Index higher than Poland or the UK.


            So is the effing Germany, where virtually no government-independent (ie foreign) media company can operate


            The Irish had to turn on the BBC to find out that the IMF was on its way to Dublin.

            Even as to a simple fact of how many Poles is there in Ireland, I had to use the Polish sources, which corroborated the CSO Census results, only 2 years earlier (I posted my estimates here long time before the CSO results – Irish own estimates pre-census got it wrong by 2/3).

            Do you know what I am thinking – with the Irish media being so inaccurate and uncritical, and TV licence being spent on buying Judge Judy and Jeremy Kyle shows to air it non-stop (they are great family role models, aren’t they?), maybe the Irish audience (except for that blog) are right in being are more interested in football and cows being electrocuted in Co Clare than Malacca Strait?

  39. McCawber

    Asking the impossible.
    Tusk is either out of touch or out of touch or………
    So basically while everyone is criticising both the UK and Ireland governments for not having a Brexit plan we now know neither have the EU.
    Or the EU’s plan is to push Ireland out of the EU along with the UK.
    Now that might not be the worst idea IF the price was right.
    So is this the 50Bn, 60Bn or xxxBn € question that could sort out the exit in Brexit.
    The ECB could print it and send it over by DD.
    Handled properly our infrastructure problems could be sorted and there’d even be a few bob for the freeloaders and empty brown envelopes(BTW anyone know what the difference between a freeload and a brown envelope).
    Anyway lads and lassies it’s a bank holiday weekend, early Friday afternoon so TGIF cos it’s time to join the other POETS in the pub.

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “Tusk is either out of touch or out of touch or………”

      There is more and more evidence that Donald Tusk was a STASI agent nicknamed “Oscar”, and thus all his statements must be taken as statements of German foreign policy, sometimes of a kind of those that are jumping the gun, other times as Germany wanting to probe other countries as to how they would react.

      This was the prime reason why Poland voted against his re-election as the EU President, not personal reasons, as it was portrayed in the Irish media (personal motives related to Smolensk crash investigation sabotaged by Tusk also played some role, but Jaroslaw Kaczynski showed many times that he is able to overcome personal feelings if he thinks its suits his political interest – for example, in the past, he employed in the public media Messrs Sierakowski and Tomasz Lis, today authors of mendacious articles about him (Mr Sierakowski for example had an article in the Irish Examiner, in which he lied that Tusk defeated Kaczynski in election 8 consecutive times – they didn’t publish my clarification – while Tomasz Lis, having been removed from the public media after a series of lies (he faked President Duda’s daughter Twitter account and gave libelous information as if coming from it shortly before the voting for presidency) and after an antisemitic article in German ‘Newsweek’ about President Duda’s father in law, went crying to the German media about how persecuted he feels in Poland under Kaczynski. ‘Is it safe for you talk?’ – asked worried speaker of ARD. ‘I don’t know’ – answered Mr Lis with faked worry depicted on his face.

      This is as an old article on Donald Tusk, and there is some more evidence that came out meanwhile.


      As to Britain, as recently as this week President Trump – in a statement somehow missed by David McWilliams, even though it was the main page headline of one of the British newspapers and it undermines the main theses running through his last year columns – has said that the Britain has to wait in the queue for the new trade agreement with the US after such agreement with the EU is made (exactly as I predicted last year that no matter who is elected, they would do this, based on UK v the EU size of market).

      So Mr Tusk’s statement about Britain having to tackle the Irish issue first is a consequence of a) German position and b) President Trump’s statement.

  40. McCawber

    It would answer our press better to ask Tusk, out straight – Why is he stirring shit.
    He must know that the people of NI have a veto on a united ireland(UI) and will use it, even the Catholics might not vote for UI.
    So given that he knows that UI isn’t a runner he should be asked out straight What is he playing out?

  41. McCawber

    Question to you all.
    Do you agree that the EU want Ireland to leave the EU at the same time as GB.
    If you agree, what should Ireland’s negotiating position be if it accepts the inevitability of de facto expulsion from the EU.
    If you disagree discuss the CTA as in how it would actually work in practice.
    Ireland wants a CTA, The EU’s response is NO, a UI is a far better solution.
    For the EU maybe, for Ireland it would be economic sabotage.

    • McCawber

      Bear in mind you are an Anglo Saxon as far as the EU, even if you were born in Poland or China even.

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “Do you agree that the EU want Ireland to leave the EU at the same time as GB.”

      No, I disagree.
      First of all, not the EU as such, but Berlin and Paris (and probably Amsterdam, secretly).
      Secondly and more importantly, I think their (Germany+France+Benelux) goal was to isolate Enland by
      a) enticing it to Brexit
      b) triggering the Scottish independence, which, incidentally, is also Russias goal (they even did some sponsoring) and
      c) In terms of political/economic clout, Ireland does not count enough for neither the EU nor the UK or the US to make a huge difference, but it count enormously for all of them GEOPOLITICALLY as a natural geographic launching pad either for Germany vis-a-vis the UK (remember IRAs collaboration with the Nazis?) or for the UK to prevent that.

      If Ireland had an army and a navy, it could be playing play on that, but it doesn’t – so it isn’t.

      I think that Germany and France secretly wanted Britain to leave the EU: more than just me thinking about it, there is lots of evidence in favour of it and little against. These are just those that first come to my mind, starting from the strongest:

      1. They had this superstate document ready a day after Brexit (as first leaked by TVP Info), with the tax, EU army and law harmonisation agenda.


      Furtheremore, Germany and France did not tell other EU countries about it.

      Now, if you join the dots, in terms of MEPS, in the EU Parliament Poland was UKs main partner in terms of how both countries votes (of course I’ma talking about PiS (Law and Justice) MEPs, not Donald Tusk’s PO (Civic Platform) MEPs, who voted with the Germans and French).
      Take UK out of the equation, and the Carolingians are almost unstoppable in forcing a new legislation (this is how I would read Mr Macron’s threats to Poland, though Madame Le Pen is not that much different, which makes me think they might be both controlled candidates – Sarkozy sounded almost as radical as Le Pen, and look how he ended up).

      2. They behaved provocatively towards the UK, i.e regarding the refugees (which was then used by Mr Farage on the famous poster). Had they wanted the UK to stay, they would have turned their blind eye to refugee quotas, as they did when France broke the Schengen Zone rules by shutting its border with Italy in 2011.

      3. Regardless who we sympathise with (i.e., like Felisk Koneczny before, I prefer the Anglo-Saxon model to French one – Koneczny thought that England was more Latin type of civilisation and France Byzantine), it is obvious that EU’s position in the negotiations is weaker than UKs because only 3% of EU exports go to the UK while 13% of UKs exports go to the EU: so EU can afford losing trade with the UK but UK cannot afford losing its trade with the EU (when President Trump realised that, he sustained Obama’s policy of sending the UK to the back of the queue in trade deal negotiations).

      So the London’s position of world money recycler is now under threat. Who will benefit? Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin could if it had a strategy, maybe Warsaw but to a lesser extent. Not London.

      So all 3 points would have made Berlin to wish the UK to leave, and I could add like 10 others.

      “the inevitability of de facto expulsion from the EU.” – far from the expulsion, Ireland has bigger room for manouver with the EU than ever, because the EU is too busy dealing with Trump and trying to change governments in Poland and Hungary. What Ireland doesn’t have is an electorate voting for politicians based on their foreign policy stance.

      This is because hitherto the Irish politicians were not required to do any foreign policy – they could get subsidies or visa-free invitations to emigrate for those for whom Ireland, since its independence minus 1990s-2007, was unable to provide jobs due to the unsustainabily of its economic model.

      If Ireland did a national rethink of how it can meander between the EU and the UK (with the backing of the US), it could gain some room to manouver (like Poland and Hungary did, or Finland, or Holland even) and gain some say on issues that interest her citizens. But the Irish electorate is not used to geopolitical thinking, because the entire 100 years of Irish independence was geared towars thinking locally, and if pushed to take a stance internationally, basically following what the UK does.

      To think that one can play the EU and the UK against each other when it suits the Irish interest and to liaise in achieving a compromise when it suits the Irish interest is beyond political capacity of 99.9% Irish citizens I spoke with, including some politicians.

      Irish attitude is: EU said this, Trump said this, Farage wants this. How do we REACT?

      It results in Taoiseach going with the official state visit to Warsaw without knowing what the political situation is, and probably even without noticing a link between Mr Trump’s envoy arriving prior to Ms Merkel, and arguing that Ireland should control the CTA border – while spending most of the press conference proving that he cannot even control Ms O’Sullivan.

      What is needed in Ireland are think-tanks feeding into TDs and ministers, and TDs starting to read serious stuff rather than yapping non-stop and drinking tax-free Guinness in the Dail bar.

      “If you disagree discuss the CTA as in how it would actually work in practice.”
      Well, that’s easy – look at how the Swedish (EU) border works in practice with Norway (non-EU). Granted, they are both in Schengen – but then again, Ireland and the UK would be in CTA.

      Even simpler would be to join the North of Ireland to the Republic, and have a natural sea border.

      “Ireland wants a CTA, The EU’s response is NO, a UI is a far better solution.” – currently the EU also wants CTA or so they say, but only in the North. So far, these are just word games, wait and see what happens when Brexit really happens.

      ‘a UI is a far better solution.” – a United Ireland is a better solution for Ireland anyway, because of a) demographic potential b) geopolitical potential, especially if Scotland gains independence (they will some day, but it is just a question when – in 5 years? In 50 years?), which would allow Ireland and Scotland control the access to North Sea. This would probably prompt the US to abandon its alliance with Britain and make united Ireland-Scotland its main ally in this part of the world (which, mind you, is only 80 years old – before the UK was either at war with the US – even as late as 19th century – or competiting; even before WWII, there were serious plans by Roosevelt to attack the UK).

      But there is a condition: Ireland has to do away with its dependence on Common Agricultural Policy subsidies from the EU (Irish agriculture is much more dependent on it than Polish, which would be better off, if there was no CAP).
      As long as there is CAP, the Carolingian have a grip on Ireland.

      Also, the culture of Northern Ireland being more socialist than Sweden (60% of NI GDP goes through state, highest in the EU) has to be abandoned.

      Next column by David McWilliams will address precisely this topic (Northern culture of dependence on subsidies).

      Also, Ireland needs to have – if not even an army, than at least a proper police and counter-intelligence (if it wants to unite) and navy (if it wants to trade). It should join the Norway gas pipeline with Poland to avoid energy dependence on EU’s Nordstream 2.

      I predict that if pushed and financed by foreign powers, the most extreme of loyalists can start a series of provocation if they sense Ireland can unite, aimed at reigniting the Troubles and conflicting the ethnic Irish with other minorities on the island of Ireland, so mainly the Poles and the English, because these two are the biggest.
      For example, if the loyalists manage to conflict the Irish and the Poles, they can then appear as the “protectors” of the threatened minority, with all the might of the UK and its police.
      If not this, then there are dozens of other things they can use to provoce the conflict (i.e even if there was zero immigrants in Ireland, they can still use issues like religion, Irish language, drugs etc).
      If loyalists feel threatened, then they will – with the help of MI5/MI6 – try to show that Ireland is unable to govern itself.

      There are 2 ways out of it:

      1. Making the loyalists part of the Irish nation (I propose by marriage diplomacy, on the same lines as Padua and Genoa eliminated Venetian and Teutonian influence from Poland by planting their canididates in the Polish elite circles, a move then repeated by the Dutch, and by the British in Czech lands, who managed to ignite a religious war in Czech lands (British were then eliminated by Habsburgs).
      Irish should plant their women among the most influential loyalists, thus defusing the threat of them being a 5th columnm, because the kids would always love the mummy just a little bit more.


      2. Being a proper state, with a proper police, proper media reporting not only on cows being electrocuted in Co. Clare (RTE 6 o’clock news main topic one day), think-tanks rather estate agents reporting on what goes on in foreign countries, and a legal system where when I am looking for court diary with the list of cases, which is hidden in many courts outside Dublin, I am met with them being listen prior to the proceedings, rather them being improvised by inviting everyone at 10.30am and answering my question with “and who is looking for it?”, to which I usually upp the ante in the absurdity of the conversation by answering the court clerk: “Three people are looking for it: me, myself and I”.

      Therefore I think that Ireland should have a proper police before it unites.

      • Deco

        Greg, you should have your own site. Seriously.

        Yes, Ireland does need a proper functioning police force before any talk starts of pushing Unionists into a 32 county socialist republican hellhole.

        Actually even non-unionists might find it seriously troubling.

  42. Truthist

    North Korea annoyed at Israel’s aggressive support for Israel’s bitch / proxy [ U.S.A. ]


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