February 4, 2017

Without planning, new Ireland will be unpleasant, angry and unstable

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It’s good to get things put in proportion on occasion. Two weeks ago in the Indian city of Jaipur, a taxi driver asked me how many people lived in Ireland. He and 800 million other Indians had watched the Irish cricket team run India close in the Cricket World Cup. In that one 2015 performance, the Irish cricket team was watched by more people than will watch the national football and rugby team, plus every golfer, all our GAA teams and every Conor McGregor fight put together in 2017. That’s how big India and Indian sport is.

So when I replied that there was about six-and-a-half million of us on the whole island, he laughed and said, “You live in paradise”. He went on to point out that we live in a peaceful part of the world, surrounded by fish, not antagonistic neighbours, with lots of water and fresh air, lots of arable land and only a handful (by Indian standards) of fabulously wealthy people. We chatted about cricket (my spoofery to his encyclopedic knowledge) and went on to politics. The first generation of post-colonial Indian leaders, particularly Nehru, was very taken with Ireland. The driver concluded that “with a good plan, you in Ireland can do anything”.

Flicking through the Government’s “Ireland 2040″ plan, I couldn’t help returning to the taxi driver’s parting words: with a good plan, we can do anything. And he is right. Relative to the rest of the world, we can look to the future optimistically, if only we can get a few things right. The government’s 2040 plan is a good start.

Twelve years ago, when writing the ‘Pope’s Children’, I went out to the booming counties around Dublin, a place called the Baby Belt, of which Naas was the buckle of the baby belt. This was where the population was exploding. This is precisely where the dynamism and excitement of young families and new estates could be felt. For me suburbia was not the dystopian landscape of editorial writers, but rather it was — and still is — a New Ireland, blossoming under strained circumstances and shouldering bad planning but as is so often the case, sustained by human endeavour and the innate familial optimism that drives all of us forward.

Obviously, the massive overcrowding in this baby belt was undermining the quality of lives for those on the East Coast, in particular, commuters. And with over 50pc of the entire economic activity of the country, this swollen part of the country was draining potential commercial opportunities from the rest of the country. Ironically, the better road system that was supposed to channel economic and commercial activity to the regions had the opposite effect. It facilitated commutes form further and further away. As a result, the new motorways only exacerbated the urge to build one-off housing further out into the Baby Belt. This has created a giant arc of development and commuters stretching from beyond Drogheda, sweeping westwards through Navan, Mullingar, south to Tullamore, towards Portlaoise, east to Carlow and out the Irish Sea again at Gorey. This is the New Ireland, the new overpopulated Pale, multi-cultural, multi-coloured and soon to be extremely overcrowded.

If we do nothing and allow the market to determine the next 25 years, this part of Ireland will become unpleasant, angry and unstable.

In contrast, what was termed “Rural Ireland” will become “Empty Ireland”, pretty but desolate, a theme park for tourists trying to find the “Real Ireland”. It will be a bit like a giant famine village — an abandoned place, which used to be thriving but is now silent.

It’s not just rural Ireland that is suffering because population trends in traditional Ireland are being replicated deep in our inner cities. The most extraordinary fact of the past 20 years is that the living population of our cities has collapsed.

This is particularly marked outside Dublin, but even in the capital we have seen population declines in many wards inside the M50, which is extraordinary. So places like Dún Laoghaire on the Southside and Howth on the Northside have experienced falls in their population. This isn’t limited to the traditionally more well-to-do areas. The same is true for Cabra, Artane, Finglas and Coolock. It is also the case in Dundrum, Stillorgan, Terenure and Templeogue.

Behind this change is the shifting population dynamic as the kids from the suburban 1960s, 1970s and 1980s estates have fled the nest and moved out beyond the M50 because they can’t afford to live in the areas they were brought up in.

In Limerick, Cork and Waterford the denuding of the city centre has been extreme. There are only 1000 people living in Georgian Limerick. Given that Georgian Limerick is an architectural gem, such a collapse in population is a travesty for those who could have lived there but instead commute in and out.

Now this is real dystopia.

But it doesn’t have to be like this. Granted, if left to its own devises, activity will centre on great urban areas because this is where the choice is, the people are, the demand is, the footfall is and big cities are the cradle of creativity and dynamism that attract yet more people, ideas and money.

But this is only possible if people can live in the city. Otherwise the city becomes a destination not a home.

Proper planning can do two things that could redefine Ireland in the next 20 years. Planning can rejuvenate city centres by building up, not out, and rebuilding communities thereby making much better use of urban land. This is a win/win for everyone, more density, less commuting, less pollution and a more vibrant urban and cultural life.

The second thing good planning can do is stop sprawl. A proper national plan can identify areas that will be encouraged and identify places or counties that must be limited.

Here is the rub. In a democracy, planning is tricky because it demands centralised choices made by planners. In China, this is easy because the Party simply chooses places and that’s that. So if you live beside the new dam, tough luck. Ireland doesn’t work like that. We have politicians who see every win for a neighbouring county or city as a loss for them. Therefore, we rarely have such a lofty notion as the national interest, but a series of micro-battles, which are used as evidence every four years at election time. It is a depressing form of dependency, but it dominates what goes for politics here.

Therefore, encouraging and all as the Government’s new plan is, it’s first hurdle — and remember this is a minority government — will be with the Irish political system. If it can get past this impediment, maybe the Indian taxi driver is right, we can do anything here!


  1. Bamboo

    Thanks David. Very Interesting article.

  2. Bamboo

    Although it is extremely brave to plan up ro 2040, I do think that climate change will be the deciding factor for our future. Ireland is geographically well positioned on the map to attract people more people to come here because if the mild weather. Not necessarily people looking for a job but people looking for a safe place, high and dry. I can see Ireland becoming a place to stay away from the heat. I am living in Asia at the moment. People are less likely to go out voluntarily unless they can get into an air con car and air con shopping mall. People do their outdoor activities before 7am and after 7pm. That’s how bad it has become. Of course I am talking about a middle class that can afford this. This middle class will look for cooler places and Ireland could well be an affordable alternative spot to invest.

    • coldblow

      I agree that the climate changes. It seems to be a thirty or forty-year cycle, so we are apparently heading into a cooling phase for a while. I know a lady in my old German class had a house in Germany and she said that they spent several weeks there one summer (about five or six years ago) and could only go out at night when it was cooler. People still complain about the weather here though.

      • 40 year cycles, 400 year cycles and thousands of year cycles, all affect us.
        The 400 year cycle is the predominant one in recent history.
        Warmer at the time of the Romans in Britain.
        Cooler 400-800.
        Warmer (medieval interglacial period, so called) 850-1250
        mini ice age 1350 -1750
        1800-2200 warmer period we experience today up and down in 40 year mini cycle.
        Dates approx. as from memory.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        I wonder how the fashion in science ebbs and tides.

        1. In the 80/90s, it was the ozon layer.
        2. In the 90/00s, it was the global warming
        3. Now because global warming has brought extremely cold winters in many parts, they do not find with a global warming, but with a “climate change”. They could equally well fight with gravity, cats eating mice, or the principle of non-contradiction.

        But here is an interesting article which perusal can in my opinion can satisfy both global warming freaks and global warming sceptics:

        https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/98jan/climate.htm

        All of this is very. Except when I was little, they used to frighten us in primary school with what the science called at the time a “nuclear winter” hypothesis – despite its name, it was not about nuclear war – it was about a very sudden and severe cooling.

        They used to frighten us about the nuclear war too – and we had to do military “what to do if you see an atomic mushroom” drills because of the evil Reagan and his evil Cruise missiles – little we knew at the time, and Irish people still do not know it, that it was the Warsaw Pact that had more aggressive plans – Poland was to attack Denmark, and the USSR was to attack West Germany – NATO’s response was to be launching a chemical counter-attack on Vistula River.

        But the Soviet excelled in propaganda due to large amount of useful idiots in the western universities (some of whom became the Presidents of Ireland), so we were told that Reagan/NATO was the bad guy, western people were also told that Reagan/NATO was the bad guy – we did not believe in it, they did and still do.

        So what’s the difference between current fashion in climate science and the previous ones?

        In the past, climate was to cool down.
        Then, climate was to warm.
        Now, climate is to cool down because it is warming.

        P.S. My friend’s father actually trained landing in Denmark. They were supposed to be given morphine supply for 7 days to deal with pain after the radiation. “What are we supposed to do on the 8th day, he asked?”. His commander did not answer. He spent 3 years in the navy training this Warsaw Pact attack on Denmark. They learned basic Danish. They used technologies that came into the commercial use 10 years later.

        Later on I met a Danish girl who came to Poland to learn Polish because her father learned it, because he was training to counter the Polish attack.

        • coldblow

          Booker’s The Real Global Warming Disaster is an excellent book. It is the only one I have read about this particular mass delusion but indispensable, because while you can get a good feel from YouTube (I’d recommend 1000frolly’s site) and blogs (I think WattsUpWithThat is the main one, though I have only looked at it the odd time, and Donna Laframboise’s blog – she has done a spectacular demolition job on the IPCC), as I was saying before the parenthesis (!), while you can get a lot from videos and blogs a book like this examines the *history* of the phenomenon. Some of it (as in all of these fantasies) is very funny, for example the famous press conference on the expected (and as it turned out) hottest day of the year in Washington, where they had deliberately left off the air conditioning the previous day. The climate conference in Russia where the Chief Scientist for GB (Alan King I think) wanted to control the agenda as was made to look a fool. The plump young ‘climatologist’ who came out of nowhere with the infamous ‘hockey stick’ graph (predicting huge temperature increases), with his (ahem!) carefully picked data (taken to pieces later by a Canadian statistician and eomeone else whose name escapes me), the Englishman who set off to paddle a canoe to the North Pole to show how the ice had melted (he didn’t get far), the green activist who criminally damaged a (I think) power station in the south of England and whose behaviour was excused, if not actually praised, by a British judge, Al Gore’s infamous film (which a judge ruled should not be shown in British schools without an accompanying series of disclaimers as to its truthfulness – in fact Booker once said that there isn’t a sentence in it which is taruthful (practically the same day I heard that Jimmy Savile’s main advocate, ‘Moor Larkin’ said exactly the same thing about the should-be-infamous Exposure documentary that started the whole madness off). I should be careful about Michael Mann, the young scientist who provided the graph the warmists needed when their need was great, and who now hold an eminent position in the Movement, because one Canadian scientist joked that instead of being in Penn State (University) he should be in the State Pen and was taken to court – I think his defence was: ‘show me your data!’ (seeing as he was (er) rather slow in releasing it).

          And that’s just some of it. Then there is ‘Climategate’, the vanishing polar bears, the hilarious doings of the former head of the IPCC, the claims by numerous obscure climate warriors that they are Nobel Prize winners (the IPCC apparently won it once). There is much more and it is highly entertaining.

          There is one picture I once saw which I would love to find again, of a crowd of climate warriors exiting a conference down an escalator in protest about something or other. I’d love to find it again.

          Arguments on YouTube blogs (such as 1000frolly) are also entertaining, in a formulaic and predictable way (that’s the fun). You will be told that they Googled your name but could not find any ‘peer reviewed’ papers by you, and could you please point them in the right direction. Or they will ask you if you are a ‘climatologist’. A climatologist seems to be someone who believes in AGW while any scientist who disagrees is ‘in the pay of the fossil fuel industry’ or the Heartland Foundation.

          As in all of these fantasies, without fail, the really fun thing is that you know that when you chase up any of their claims (I mean *any*) they always turn out to be a load of cobblers.

          Oh, and I nearly forgot, Mary Robinson turned up onto the Late Late last year, introduced by Tubbers as (if memory serves) a ‘climate justice warrior’!

          • Global warming is a total scam (as an aside coldblow, I bet you wouldn’t expect me to say that if you applied your introvert/extrovert theory).

            That being said, no one wants to live in a polluted environment, so any individual or group or entity, corporation etc that pollutes the environment should stop and if not they should be legally pursued until they do. That will take care of it. It will soon be possible to undertake all economic activity without any adverse effect on the environment – technology will solve that particular problem, but in the meantime people should do what they can on a micro level. I mean I take a lot of flights which I don’t have a choice about given my lifestyle and occupation but I would never deliberately even throw a tiny scrap of waste on the ground etc.

          • coldblow

            Adam

            The thing about the introvert/ extravert angle is that while extraverts find it harder in general to challenge received opinion (because, I think, they identify more with the external world, including majority opinion) they are the only people who make a forceful, reasoned case against it. (This might be, perhaps partly, explained by the fact that they seem to *do* much more than introverts.)

            However, there are limits (again, I think) to this. As I have sometimes remarked, they are joined with the continent of received opinion at some point, even if it is below sea level. That is why, say, Peter Hitchens finds it hard to accept the possibility that the whole Jimmy Savile thing is a fraud. Christopher Booker also accepts it, and he has written a book about a society in the grip of a mass fantasy (The Neophiliacs, Britain in the Swinging 60s).

            I imagine you would also bridle against my opinion in this matter. I am pretty sure I am right. Try holding the thought right there. Why (assuming, of course, that you do) do you reject it? Can you put it into words? I guess it is a feeling. I’d be interested in your feedback.

            That isn’t to say that introverts wouldn’t reject it out of hand either, but their reasoning would be (I expect) different.

    • McCawber

      Planning up to 2040 is not particularly brave.
      The initial phase it’s mostly lines and symbols on a map of the country.
      So the “vision” part is relatively painless and perhaps up two/three scenarios could be developed relatively quickly and cheaply.
      The development and implementation obviously are the brave bits.
      However if dev and the lads had done the “vision” every ten years then experience and confidence in that part of the process would have been developed.
      Today it is a step into the unknown.
      Implentation will be extremely.
      A plan like this will require a lot electrical power and the pylons that go with it.
      Listening to the government chief whip ,in a recent interview, suggesting that Eirgrid had just not shown any respect to the anti pylon lobby (palpable nonsense) tells you that the one thing that will bury a plan like this is the absolute lack of any backbone or leadership from the political class.
      Cute hoors to a man/woman.

  3. Bamboo

    Sorry for the typos, typing from my phone :-)

  4. kevinonearth

    One battle to be played out locally will be the boundary commission battles. Waterford City is lop sided with the vast majority of its development concentrated on the South side of the River Suir. If Waterford is to develop as a city then it needs to grow on the North Side. Only a fraction of Ferrybank on the North Side of the river is in Waterford City Council with mot of it administered by Kilkenny County Council. Waterford City council’s area should be expanded to incorporate the rest of Ferrybank and surrounding hinterland to allow for sustainable development. This should have no affect on GAA or other sporting/cultural norms and practices.

  5. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    David says

    “Proper planning can do two things that could redefine Ireland in the next 20 years. Planning can rejuvenate city centres by building up, not out, and rebuilding communities thereby making much better use of urban land. This is a win/win for everyone, more density, less commuting, less pollution and a more vibrant urban and cultural life.

    The second thing good planning can do is stop sprawl.”

    While he is right on what needs to be done (and that it’d be a win-win for everyone if it was done), I do not think that he accurately identifies the reasons why it is not done.

    And the fundamental reasons are two:

    1. As I have been pointing out for years, no Irish governments actually wanted/want the building up to be implemented (apart from PDs – they had a building up plan, but Fianna Fail blocked it), because that would make houses/aparments cheaper, thus

    1.1 Eroding the illusion of wealth of their electorate and

    1.2 Spoiling the “keep the recovery going” spiel (as our recession was a balance sheet recession – same as our Ahern-ear boom was a balance sheet boom – the governments had a choice of restoring the balance sheets by either lower the debt/prices through letting the market to wipe out the malinvensting enterprises and replace them with new ones – Schumpeter’s “creative destruction” – or restore the assets value by pumping up another bubble – they chose the latter).

    Examples that the governments do not want that abound, i.e. Dublin City Council voted to LOWER maximum height restrictions, and it has not as of yet (after years and years of abuse) eliminated the law that makes it profitable for landlords/vulture funds to make the houses in Dublin City Centre uninhabitable (due to lower taxes).
    Also, eliminating the rent allowance system (perhaps incorporating it into the social welfare/tax credit system – which is not ideal, but better than the current system) would do miracles for density (for many property owners, renting out their houses illegally while availing of rent allowance is the main source of their untaxed income; others use the rent allowance system to bring up the value of their assets – as Truthist once pointed out, without rent allowance, the price of renting would roughly be the current price minus the rent allowance amount).

    2. Low interest rates.
    According to IMF data, Dutch house price doubled in 350 years; Irish prices in 20 years. Moreover, the Irish prices were on average stable in the period 1980-1995: (the IMF index was 100.7 in Q4 1995 and 188.5 in Q2 2015).

    So this wanton waste of money towards buying and renting houses from themselves rather than investing in the real economy is not quite some vice of the Irish psyche (or it is not the main reason), but a result of deliberate policy. In fact, I believe that this is the main reason why no Irish government proposed leaving the euro currency – because that would bring the interest rates up to 5% and end the property speculation.

    Another problem (the one never noticed by David – perhaps he does not want to piss off the farmers should he run for the Presidency) is the Central Agricultural Policy in general, and its Irish extreme is particular.

    The Irish Farmers Association (IFA) is one of Ireland’s most powerful lobby groups and in 2001 it won a sweetheart deal from the Government giving its members 23% of the national road building budget, according to the National Roads Authority — land accounted for 12% of the cost of road projects in England, 10% in Denmark, 9.4% in Greece and 1% in Iceland.

    IFA and CAP are the reasons why you pay for the loaf of bread 2-3 euro instead of 0.50 cents to 1 euro (money that could have been saved and invested in the real economy).

    As a result of the above, plus bad Irish experience with British and Irish landlords (the elephant in the room is that during the Famine, lots – if not most – greedy and irrational policies towards tenants came from the Irish landlords) resulted in the fact that in France, each field changes hands at least once every 70 years, but in Ireland on average a field changes hands every 555 years! So DO NOT BLAME FEUDALISM OR CAPITALISM FOR LAND PRICES. Total annual turnover in Ireland was less than 0.2% of the total acreage. Land is about €6,000 a hectare, compared with almost €60,000 in Ireland, as French land must be offered first to young local farmers.

    Then there is the artificial demand for ‘lifestyle farms,’ within 100km of Dublin, coupled with the increasing trend of ‘off-farm’ employment leading to commercial farmers in effect becoming ‘hobby farmers.’

    As for the density: Dublin City proper – the DCC area – is reasonably dense, though still not as dense as other old cities (2,950, Berlin’s 3,750, London’s 5,100 – and they all have a much higher standard of housing/apartments, and so does Krakow – i.e. in Poland housing insulation has been used for decades, while in Ireland it was only really introduced 15 years ago – by a Polish company Aluglass – and Dublin City planners still did not cop on on the idea that Polish city planners copped on around half a century ago – that you can have underground passages for pedestrians, thus eliminating the need for red lights and doubling the speed of traffic).

    The issue is that in the rest of the county, and the area outside it, Dublin is simply a sprawling housing estate. That’s where it differs so much from Berlin, Amsterdam, Warsaw.

    Not only that, but these sprawling housing estates are divided by patches of empty fields and low density industrial estates, that should have been replaced with skyscrapers a long time ago (just take the ridulous middle-ages walk in the darkness from the last Luas stop in Cherrywood to 145 in Loughlinstown – an experience equivalent to walking from a village to a village on the east wall of Poland – but less safe – rather than to a capital of a country; btw – Krakow has 17 tram lines, Warsaw has over 40 – Dublin has 2 and there are not connected).

    “and remember this is a minority government — will be with the Irish political system. If it can get past this impediment, maybe the Indian taxi driver is right, we can do anything here!”

    The will to blow another property bubble is not a minority thinking in Ireland – it goes from Labour, through SF, FF to FG.

    We can do anything here – just do not vote for any of those for.

    After all, the Irish experiment with parties based on ideology rather than “You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” ended up with centre-right Renua not getting into the Dail, and proper left – Stephen Donnelly being coopted to Fianna Fail (and that’s even without Ireland having any Tea Party).

    Because the purpose of being a politician in Ireland is NOT TO CHANGE IRELAND.
    The purpose is to capitalise on “the peoples” anger by shouthing louder than the others (“Labour’s Way Or Frankfurt’s Way” – so it was Frankfurts way, as it was KGBs way for him before; or “President That’ll Do Us Proud” – well, with his Castro comments and protecting Jihadists he did not do me proud I can assure of that).

    The purpose of being a politician in Ireland is to end up as a consultant, after a long (or short) career of selling planning permissions.

    Q.E.D.

    • Deco

      Greg – excellent post as always.

      The Luas lines in Dublin cost over a billion. To reach the same level as a regional city in Poland, the Irish institutional state would scale up to over 10 Billion in spending.

      The Irish institutional state loves to spend. And it loves to borrow and spend. All that is stopping it now is ability to borrow.

      It is definitely not self-restraint, or good sense.

      • McCawber

        Any idea at all as to the cost/benefit of the luas lines.
        It must be hugely in favour of benefit.

      • McCawber

        The great reset = the great leveller.
        Some Sunday about 8 years from now the CBs will announce a financial crisis has occurred.
        It will impossible for anyone to access their online accounts for a few days at least (it is a major crisis after all they have to make it look good)
        Eventually when you finally get to access your account there will be a €100 in it)
        When you access your cc account or any other loan account the balances will not have changed.

    • coldblow

      Grzegorz

      Yes, I remember reading on The Irish Economy once that the amounts paid out in compulsory land purchases for roads and such like are sky high compared to elsewhere.

    • Pie Squared

      In awe of your insightful and learned comments Grzegorz. However disagree with your reading of the Famine: “the elephant in the room is that during the Famine, lots – if not most – greedy and irrational policies towards tenants came from the Irish landlords.”

      Over the centuries Britains tactic of divide and rule worked well in Ireland. And every British action in Ireland was aided and abetted to some degree by Irish people but by and large, these Irish were in the absolute minority.

      The Irish influence on policy was, way, way down the line, amongst the middlemen. They were tasked with implementing the policies of Anglo Irish Agents and Anglo Irish Landlords as explained here: http://www.aughty.org/pdf/estate_own_manage.pdf. Also look at the Estate Records during the Famine years: http://www.from-ireland.net/category/irish-genealogy/estate-records/ and id the “Irish names”. Very, very few were landlords to any degree and very few were agents. There were sell outs – as there is in every country, implementing policies on behalf of their Anglo Irish masters – but “Elephant in the Room” is over stretching it by a long shot.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        maybe it is overstretching it by a long shot. But I wanted to highlight that aspect of “let’s see what we could have done differently” because for too long occupied nations – such as the Irish and the Poles – were devoid of a real elite that would be able to match up the aforementioned devide and rule tactics used by conspiring powers (in Ireland due to Flight of the Earls, in Poland due to WWII).

        Is the history with the Irish landlords – even if they were in the absolute minority – not repeating itself?

        http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/the-state-of-places-some-landlords-try-to-rent-they-dont-even-bother-to-clean-them-35433260.html

        or this – this blissful “catch me if yous can” – I find absolutely scandalous:

        http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nothing-unusual-about-40-people-in-a-house-35429888.html

        In the past, I taught a similar fat prick a tough “street-widsom” lesson in the court: my former landlord, a fat prick, amazingly a manager of one of BOI branches for 20 years with no proper writing skills, wanted to screw me into paying him more than he was owed for an absolute kip of a house (with no locks in the rooms!) and into me taking care of the structural repairs in the kip of a house for which he was charging us an absolutely exorbitant amount.

        He ended up not only even getting what he was really due, but also getting into trouble with his “50 shades of gray” accounting system. Existing the court room, I took a liberty of one final remark: “don’t ever get snappy with me again”.

        My point is that while the “divide et impere” tactics should not be forgotten, Ireland will not breed a real elite if she STOPS AT waving the victim script. This is what the imperial powers want – not understanding real reasons.

        The million dollars question is not what the British (or any other colonial power in other countries). The real question is:

        w h a t is t h e i r n e x t m o v e ?

        I could give fascinating examples from the Polish history: i.e. England being behind Prussia being transformed from a poor country with barren soil, a vassal state to Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania, into a European power within merely 40 years thanks to English bankers, who wanted to annihilate the most powerful Catholic state in Europe; and the same Prussia eliminating Polish elites in the 19th century by a) fomenting uprisings in the Russian occupation zone and b) offering loans to Polish noblety who lost all their possessions after uprisings, thus taking over their assets cheaply.

        Speaking of divide et impera, I wrote a letter to Indo in which I imply that the loyalists in NI are now applying this tacticts towards Polish etnic minority and the Irish in the North. I wonder if they’ll publish it tomorrow (I did not even try The Anti-Irish Times for obvious reasons, although today’s article by Mr Scally was – as for him – quite factual).

  6. michaelcoughlan

    Hi Dathi,

    Sorry to rain on your parade but the article in my view is a well written nonsense let me explain;

    There were 6600 houses completed in first half of 2016 according to this;

    http://www.bpfi.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Housing-Market-Monitor-Q2-2016-Final.pdf

    So assuming a similar number for the second half of 2016 say 14k total. IN A COUNTRY NEEDING 30K TO 40K PA. Indeed.

    Why aren’t more houses being built?

    Ans.

    The restrictive nature and scarcity of lending but most importantly the scarcity of well paid jobs and all the zero hour Min wage shit going around has reduced the purchasing power of the first time buyer to a level BELOW the cost of building a home.

    THIS IS WHY we have record levels of EMIGRATION OUT OF THE PLACE. Mostly graduates too. Averaging north of 80k PA for 2015, 2014 and 2013. When Noonan talks about the unemployment rate going below 8% and speaks about full employment what he means is total exodus because many of those voting with their feet would be on the dole otherwise.

    The government’s PLAN out to 2040 is very simple David. Keep the banks OPEN AT ALL COSTS a political IMPERATIVE FROM EUROPE tied directly to keeping EU money coming this way.

    Ireland David is a watered down version of Cuba. The political imperative is get rid of the local talent to other countries just like Cuba because its from this group where the threat to political power comes from. Keep the moola rolling in from Europe. Keep Miriam and Tubridy on 6k to 10k PER WEEK to buy them off from asking the hard questions.

    Here is a prediction for you Dathi; Since Labour abandoned it’s voting base just like the Democrats have for decades in the US (which allowed Trump in) our next Government will be a coalition of the Fianna Failures and the ME FEINERS.

    It will be well and truly God help us all when the ME FEINERS are part of the GUBERENMENT won’t it?

    Michael.

  7. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    Coldblow, you wrote:

    “coldblow
    January 31, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    “Farage says that the reaction to Trump’s travel ban is hypocritical because that Obama put a six month ban on travellers from Iraq in 2011 and nobody even squeaked.”

    It is even worse – Obama’s administration was filled with Muslims, who were granting refugee status to Jihadists from countries other than Iraq, while refusing it to Christians, sending them back to their persecutors – this explains why Obama had also have the highest percentage of deportations. Btw, how interesting that President Trump – whose main plonk was to find out the truth about 9/11 and punish Saudi Arabia for it – did not include Saudi Arabia on his enemy countries list, while being so tough on Iran.

    The Irish Left has reacted to US president Trump’s ban on refugees from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen by organising a protest rally outside the US Embassy in Dublin. But no such rallies were organised outside the embassies of other, very prosperous countries (far closer to those countries than the US) that have not taken any refugees, such as Israel or Saudi Arabia. When, after Martial Law had been introduced in Poland, 30,000 Polish refugees arrived in Austria, they had to go through all kinds of background checks (including whether they had any savings in Poland and if they were political refugees or economic migrants) before they would be admitted (or not) to other countries. The main camp in Austria did not give any pocket money to Polish refugees, only food and accommodation (far more cramped than any of the refugees have now); some others did, but this was only enough to buy stamps to Poland. Basically they had to sell all their possessions for peanuts and find some (illegal) casual work. Those who were not granted visas to the US, Canada, Australia, were usually granted visas to South Africa.

    Many Polish refugees were refused asylum (i.e. if they found that you had savings or property in Poland, or belonged to the communist party – contrast that with well knows pictures of recent “refugees” queing up to ATMs, or wearing desinger clothes and latest i-Phones).

    Where was the Irish Left then? Did the Labour Party protested against inhumane conditions in Austrian camps, did they demand that Ireland should take some of them?

    I tell where they were: the former Workers Party people would rather not be reminded of it, but I’ll remind them nonetheless – far from organising protests outside embassies, the Irish far Left were busy attending propaganda events in the Soviet Embassy – like the one in Dublin in January 1983.

    You also wrote:

    coldblow
    February 3, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    “When I was teaching in London many years ago I used to give a lift every day to an Art teacher who obsessed with the similarities between Etruscan art and something or other which I have long since forgotten. This proved something very important and solved an impenetrable mystery, both of which I have also forgotten.”

    There are some deep similarities (haplogroup, racial) between Ethiopians and Greeks, and their culture.

    Also, Aryans (so primarily todays west-Slavs), who left traces from Carpatians mountains to Siberia and Tibet, formed the Globular Amphora Culture, preceding the central area occupied by the Corded Ware culture:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKf3ZzqUHwo

    The culture of Aryans-Slavs is closely related to Aegean civilisation. Look at the Zyndram mountain in Maszkowice in Poland:

    http://archaeofeed.com/2015/09/oldest-traces-of-stone-wall-fortifications-in-poland-discovered/

    • coldblow

      Grzegorz

      The asylum in Britain (and presumably here too) were, I understand, originally passed to admit tiny numbers of political refugees from the Soviet bloc.

      For Irish pre-history I tend towards the approach used by Douglas Hyde in his Literary History of Ireland, which seems to be to go as far back as you can via the ancient texts, folklore and genealogy, and that is quite a long way. Certain families were associated with particular parts of the country. In my family’s part of the country, around Ballaghaderreen (where the govt has generously decided to dump hundreds of immigrants from the Middle East) it was the McDermotts. of Coolavin. (Actually, according to local lore my mother’s ancestor came up with O’Sullivan Beare over four centuries ago.

      They crossed through largely hostile, pro-English areas (or perhaps just anti-Cork, which is quite understandable) before ending up around friendly, rebellious Monasteraden and the shores of Lough Gara. O’Sullivan’s right-hand man was tormented by ingrowing toenails, which I have got from my mother, although her cousin said that their ancestors joined in Offaly.) Hyde was the leading light in the Gaelic League, soon after the turn of the 20th C the most popular man in Ireland, the son of Protestant clergyman in Frenchpark (about five or six miles from Ballaghaderreen) and the first President of Irland. I agree with you about the one we have now, who is the worst: either him or Noddy).)

      The art teacher who had a bee in her bonnet about the Etruscans cadged a lift off me every day for a year. The head of the English dept in the school (who by the way told me that she and her colleagues had to mark a million words of assessed work per year) told me that she had been caught by her for lifts before that. ‘Does she tell you about the wonderful food she cooks?’ ‘Yes.’ ‘Did you ever get to taste any of it?’ ‘No.’

      I am very sceptical of alleged links between Ireland and West Africa, North Africa or anywhere else, to oput it mildly. I am pretty sceptical of the genetic evidence too. My first cousin in Chigaco once wrote to my mother after getting a dna test done: ‘Dear Margaret. It is true. The Irish really are the lost tribe of Israel.’

      • “right-hand man was tormented by ingrowing toenails, which I have got from my mother, ”
        Sorry to hear you and your mother both have ingrowing toenails. That is a real pain in the foot!!Quite hobbling.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        ON THE ARTICLE IN INDO BY MRS O’CALLAGHAN

        I have to say I did not quite understand what the main plonks of the article in the link are. The stylistic chaos seems to me reflect the mental chaos in the head of Mrs O’Callaghan. From what I could observe her evolution over the years, she is not a dumb girl like some of her older, illustrious colleagues female from RTE are, but what she lacks is the ability to connect dots – Miriam absorbs and retains lots of information, but is unable to analyse it – hence her “oh-look-how-smart-I-am” response to Mr McWilliams in 2003 when he was warning about the property bubble: “But we need these loans because we need these houses” – is that’s not what every heroin addict says about injections? – yet the treatment for heroin addiction is not more injections. I am afraid she might have a good chance in the race for the Irish Presidency (she would make a better President of Ireland than Michael D., but then again so would Alexander Lukashenko).

        Coming to the actual article,

        1. “In power terms, the order’s generation is incompetent to the point of chaotic.” – in case Mrs O’Callaghan did not notice, executive orders was President Obama was rulling.

        2. “Within hours she is fired for “betrayal”. Other experts who voice evidence-based concerns, are reclassified. Once public servants, now they are “career bureaucrats”.” – I am not sure how well is Mrs O’Callaghan versed in the US politics, but that’s generally how politics works in the US – when Democrats are in power, they change vending machines into Pepsi, when Republicans – Coca-Cola. Even when these companies entered the socialist Poland’s market in the 70 under Comrade Gierek (Comrade Gierek’s strategy was a simple as it was ingenious – indebt Poland in France and it the US as much as possible while licking the ass of Brezhniev, so that if the Soviet do Budapest 56’ in Warsaw, they would have to pay Polish debts in the US and France – it worked in 1981). President Clinton has even ripped off computer keyboards in the White House!

        3. “As they speak, in eastern Ukraine, an upsurge of fighting between government troops and Russian-backed rebels sees preparations made for the town of Avdiivka to be evacuated. There are reports of rebel artillery positions in the city of Donetsk. On the day, security-wise, there is no mention of Russia.” I suppose in Miriam’s naïve mind that’s President Trump’s fault too. If she was any good in her job, she would have found out that President Trump did not mention the Ukraine, while his envoy in the UN said that Crimea should be returned to Russia. Or that Mr Trump is in favour of lifting sanctions from Russia – provided that they would reduce their nuclear arsenal. If she was wiser still, she’d know that real politics is not black and white – as many of our bloggers see it – but gray, and that as a statesman, you a) probe the reaction of the other side, saying mild things yourself and radical via proxies and b) you act on multiple fronts c) you do not mention something for the sake of mentioning (like our Taoiseach with Mr Trump’s invitation), but keep it as the ace card.
        President Trump is a salesman. I was a salesman. Mrs O’Callaghan is not a salesman and she never was. Sales world is very different from a bimbo world – in a bimbo world, people are trying to get into your hole and have to be very nice to you in order to do so; in a sale world, you want to get into the hole by hook or by crook.

        A long time ago I predicted here that the US will do a deal with Russia REGARDLESS WHO is in power – Syria for the Ukraine. If you have not closed the sale yet, and you did not even pitch yet – why mentioning “and therefore we need you to support our charity” ;-)? Speaking of Mr Taoiseach – Ms Merkel is coming to Warsaw this month – before her Mr Gulliani was the first envoy of the President-Elect Trump to go to any country, before even he invited Mr Farage and Ms May. President Putin was in Budapest. Meanwhile, the Taoiseach is having a Shakespearian monologue whether to invite the US President Trump to Ireland or not. I am sorry to say, but from what I know (and my direct sources works for the Assistant to the President and Chief Strategist in the Donald Trump administration), now when he won (and – mind you – not thanks to Irish votes; neither there were any Irish in his campaign team, apart from Vice President Pence, of course) President Trump does not give a fuck about shamrocks or a visit to Ireland – he has hundred of more important issues to worry about. He can come to Ireland, he can not come to Ireland – who cares? To paraphrase Stalin – how many divisions has Enda Kenny? If I was Taoiseach’s adviser, I would not even advise him to invite Mr Trump to Ireland this year for he might reject it – I would advise him to invite Mike Pence to Ireland A. S. A. f…ing. P. , who at least would not refuse, and find a way to keep President Higgins in house arrest while Mr Pence is here).

        4. The whole passage from: “The NYT’s conservative columnist David Brooks says President Trump’s administration is not Republican, but “ethnic nationalist”” to “Not just the proud LGBTQ lobby, grist to his dismissive mill. Not the nationalists either or the tentative supremacists.” Did ever occur to her that the US President and his advisors might be pre-occupied with issues different than LGBTQ and white supremacy? That politics is not about that AT ALL, and that this is only a spiel for RTE bimbos? That if politics was about that, Hitler would not have allowed to have been financed by Jews, he would not have been allying with the Great Mufti of Jerusalem, and he would not have attended the mass for the soul of Marshall Pilsudski – the only mass he attended as the Chancellor? Does she really believe that when President Trump or President Obama meets President Putin, and President Putin meets Prime Minister Orban, their talks go like that:
        “Vladimir Vladimirovich, please, please, allow the LGBTQ to have a state-financed parade in Moscow.” “No, I won’t have them in Moscow, I sell weapons to all Arab countries”. “But Mr Putin, please, please, Oscar Wilde was gay, and so is Gay Byrne”. “You know what? Fuck billions from weapons. You are right, Mr Obama – the ass is for taking, not for letting out – yes, I will have them parade in Moscow”.

        5. “Already, there are parents taking their children to protest for the first time; lawyers swapping billable hours for a stint on the picket; business-development managers risking new 200-thread Italian suits” – and do you know how stupid these protesters are? There are so stupid that her leader “said that 6 million women marched in Poland and after that, the Polish government had to allow abortion”: first of all, Polish government did not do anything – why should they? They were democratically elected; secondly, abortion is legal in Poland in some extreme cases – a result of a 90s compromise (do not drag me into that debate, dear people); and thirdly, she ACTUALLY mixed up 6 million women with the mythical 6 million Jews killed in Poland in WWII (there more Poles killed – Jews below 3 million, Poles over 3 million, and this does not include Stalin). No, this is not a sick joke – I would NOT make a joke about killed Jews – she ACTUALLY is THAT stupid, as she one of the smarter ones. Beside, who knows, maybe even I would go to protest against Trump if you paid me 30 dollars per hour as Soros pays them?

        6. “The protests themselves will achieve little, except maybe when they are big enough, irritate a president who is size-sensitive.” But WHAT EXACTLY are they supposed to achieve? Change the democratically elected President into George Soros?

        7. “Rather, the value of the protest is in what it signifies. Jung says those who look outward dream, but those who look inward awaken.” – I leave the interpretation for you. My gut feeling is that this is a convoluted way of saying that Mrs O’Callaghan is unsatisfied sexually.

        8. “They heed the observation of The Atlantic’s David Frum that this time, the rise of the right will not involve black shirts, white cities or tea with Mussolini.” – no it won’t, because Mussolini was a socialist and Trump is not.

        9. “On June 4, 1798, president Thomas Jefferson wrote the following lines to one of America’s finest political theorists, John Taylor of Caroline. […]“’A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt…’” – this moved me more than Chopin’s Mazurkas, and I am not entirely serious about that. Mrs O’Callaghan won the award for the most inept quotation of the week. The most apt one would be the quote from Benjamin Franklin that Jefferson really liked: “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”

        10. “At Evian, the world precious with principles, met to discuss the treatment of the Jews. Then, promptly, it closed its heart and borders against them, choosing to see not Him or Her or You, only Jew. Last week, my son went by train to Auschwitz, part of a trip by European students commemorating their counterparts transported for extermination. They trudged in the snow-white silence, under the black capitals of the blacker lie ‘Arbeit Macht Frei’.” So Mrs O’Callaghan does not even know that Auschwitz was a camp for Poles, and that Jews did not start to arrive in it until late (where they were redirected to Birkenau?).
        This is only in Polish – sorry – but I could not find anything better in English (Auschwitz prisoner tells the inconvenient TRUTH) – maybe you’ll understand? It’s only 4 min and his voice is clear…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqFzvUUdsXo

        11. “Perhaps Chancellor Merkel, who will be remembered for putting principles over populism, could send a letter to America.” – principles like what? Inviting 800,000 immigrants to allay Germany’s demographic problem – hoping she’d cherry-pick the best and force the rest of countries to take the “worse” – only to realise that a) very few of them can do any job b) out of those who can, no one wants to and c) there are terrorists among them (see my letter to Indo on Saturday)?, and when that misfired, starting to deport them and chip them? THAT’S PRINCIPLES?!

        ON HOW THE TREATMENT OF THE POLISH POST-MARTIAL LAW REFUGEES IN THE 80S DIFFERED FROM THE (MOSTLY) OVERINDULGENT TREATMENT OF (MOSTLY) BARBARIAN HORDES OF THE CURRENT SO CALLED “REFUGEES”:

        As to: “The asylum in Britain (and presumably here too) were, I understand, originally passed to admit tiny numbers of political refugees from the Soviet bloc.”

        Maybe, but that must have been a f t e r they got entry visas to other countries and, if they were educated – and most of them were – they could choose from different countries. I doubt that Ireland has taken ANY Polish refugees because I know the eldest Polish immigrant to Ireland – a woman who emigrated here in the late 1960s – but I’ll ask her.

        The main camp in Austria, Traiskirchen, is now filled with 1,400 refugees – but it had to accommodate over 30,000 Poles (in comparison, refugees in Sweden live in better conditions than most Irish in their own country – they were even once accommodated in a… palace, that they had immediately devastated).

        The reason Poles ended up in Austria was because they did not need tourist visas to Austria. Reporter of New York Times wrote about dramatic conditions in the camp. The Austrian Chancellor, Bruno Kreisky, said to him: “Let the Americans take refugees!” President Ronald Reagan reacted to the article and sent Poles food packages as Christmas presents – but he did not accept any to the US. Chancellor Kreisky appealed to all western nations to take the Poles, but no one accepted them.

        Finally Canada AS THE FIRST COUNTRY agreed to accept 1,000 – PROVIDED they sign contract that they would work in agriculture for 2 years in a designated areas (so basically those that they were gagging for anyone to settle).

        Mr Toby Moffett, Democratic Congressman from Florida, visited the camp and found out that the Americans started selecting the Polish refugees into two categories: useful for the US and not useful, but was condemned by the US press that he is running for the Senator’s seat and that his empathy is not genuine, because his district had lots of Polish-Americans (and for unfathomable reasons, Poles back then – like the Irish now – voted for Democrats; i.e. Poles voted for JFK – btw, I heard that after that visit to Ireland, it was JFK that was deporting Irish immigrants – do you know anything about it?).

        Eventually, President Reagan relented, and starting accepting some Polish refugees – after Austria launched the “Sharp and Fast” refugee selection program (you had to prove you are genuine political refugee in 3 days or you get deported back to communist Poland – if you could not, you HAD ONE MONTH TO LEAVE AUSTRIA).

        Only the most suitable ended up in the US. The slightly worse went to Canada, Australia and South Africa.

        Only 4pc stayed in Austria – and these were almost all women who got taken advantage of by the locals.

        It’s possible that some marginal amounts might have ended up in the UK, but UK basically not being occupied by Nazi Germany because Poland was a) attacked first as a result of false UK guarantees and b) Poles cracked the Enigma code for the UK, won the Battle for Britain (England demanded that Poland pays for planes used for defending Britain) and destroyed V3 factory, this is HARDLY a reason to feel grateful (btw, England has never returned the Polish Central Bank’s gold Poland has deposited there in September 1939 – and should it occur to anyone that I am anti-English, think what I must think of Germany not paying Poland WWII reparations, not wanting to sign a Peace Treaty with Poland, claiming all their former lands in Silesia – and working along with Israel to run a smear campaign against Poland:

        http://europe.newsweek.com/polish-activists-nazi-camps-billboard-552252?rm=eu

        ).

        I am not anti-English. I used to love England (I worked for an English Conservative MEP). I had a Welsh girlfriend.

        But

        this is the inconvenient TRUTH about England and WWII.

        I mean – I thought that all of that what I wrote about Polish 80s refugees was well known to everyone. It turns out that it was not…

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          “that President Trump did not mention the Ukraine, while his envoy in the UN said that Crimea should be returned to Russia.”
          = while President Trump did not mention the Ukraine, his envoy in the UN said that Crimea should be returned to UKRAINE

        • Deco

          You are correct about O’Callaghan.

          She is good at throwing around second hand information. But she does not expect us to think for ourselves.

        • coldblow

          Grzegorz

          You have highlighted some of the silliness in Miriam O’Callaghan’s Sindo article and there is plenty more.

          “Reasonable suspicion exists that old-enemy agencies were involved in the elections that brought him to power.”

          I have no idea what she is talking about. Does she mean Russia? Whatever, my suspicion is that her suspicion is not reasonable.

          “Outside the country, large swathes of civil society are disturbed, old allies worried. Their reaction is dismissed as hysterical.”

          That is because it *is* hysterical, that is the whole point. And notice how they are dignified with the description of “civil society” (whatever that means).

          “… it is clear that language can mean something and its opposite, simultaneously”

          That is very true. It has been going on for a long time. Remind me, by whom?

          “To write now ‘Welcome to Trumpistan’ would be to engage in the degradation of politics, the diminution of public life that has helped bring the world to this juncture.”

          What has brought us here has been the idiotic policies of a left-wing establishment world-wide.

          “All the same, in this century’s slow race to right-wing nationalism…”

          It isn’t clear what century but this one started where the last one left off: with a race to extreme left-wing policies in all kinds of things: public morals, law and order, honesty in public life, financial irresponsibility and the rest of the familiar list. So that anyone who has stuck by values that would have been mainstream forty years ago, in many cases ten or even five, is now a fascist.

          The inauguration: putting aside partisanship, healing wounds, poetry, gravitas.

          The Left uses this language but people are no longer fooled.

          “That day, too, [the power of office] was a no show. It seemed to avoid Washington the way the Holy Spirit avoids Rome.”

          This is just undergraduate rhetoric. You could say it is a further contribution to the degradation of public debate.

          “Not just the proud LGBTQ lobby, grist to his dismissive mill”

          Where did ‘Q’ come from and what does it mean?

          “… wresting [their country] from the dangerous toddlers of Aleppo, who, while barrel bombs rained and reigned, sang songs of stealing the jobs, breath and soul of America. FACT.”

          You what? And what exactly happened in Aleppo?

          “I’m referring to the ‘ordinary folk’: the men and women who rejected Donald Trump the candidate but were ready to give him a chance as their president… And if the wounded poor who voted for Trump and Brexit [she just had to bring in Brexit] don’t get those pay rises…”

          Nobody would argue that Trump is ideal (to put it mildly) but how does she know that only the poor and the ignorant voted for him? And she dismisses their concerns and says it is really about economics. Is it?

          “It will involved fake news, “alternative facts” designed by ideologues”

          But this is exactly what we have been getting from the left-wing press. Lies and evasion in spades. Are we supposed to believe that this is some cynical new departure by Trump?

          I didn’t realise she has been around for a while as a journalist. I only spotted her in the Sindo in recent months. It isn’t only a bad article, it isn’t even well written.

          I love the Benjamin Franklin quotation.

          Everyone I know who visits Krakow also visits Auschwitz. I think it is the last place on earth I would want to see. I don’t know about the numbers but I am quite prepared to accept that the 6m figure is well off the mark. From what I have found out *all* figures are off the mark to a greater or lesser extent (usually greater, and then some, if not just made up). Some might think I am just another stupid populist (I prefer the word ‘popularist’, as used by Ted Heath when describing Thatcher’s ‘hypocritical’ Bruges speech, where she marked her full recovery from the Euro fantasty) but I have evidence and arguments that I think are convincing.

          We really do live in a pc fantasy world. If you don’t look at it you won’t see it but that is what it is. And it isn’t all that hard to see Although it is everywhere, it is like a vast expanse of garish cheap lino. If you inspect it it is very badly fitted (isn’t everything these days?) so you can lift it at the edges and peer underneath, and what is more full of gaping big holes.

          • coldblow

            By the way, notice how the ‘barrel bomb’ mantra is always used. (To be fair, I think the Brits have moved on.) What is a barrel bomb? Are other bombs kinder or more humane? Did the Obama and Cameron ‘regimes’ drop bombs on cities in Syria? A few months ago Hilary Benn made a ‘masterful’ speech in the House of Commons in support of this policy. And last week apparently RTE news reported another ‘masterful’ speech, this time from Kenneth Clarke, a long-time Europhile.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “Not just the proud LGBTQ lobby, grist to his dismissive mill”
            Where did ‘Q’ come from and what does it mean? – good question.

            The leader of Polish nationalists, Marian Kowalski, noticed that addition too, and said that using these weird codes discriminates against the largest sexual minority – impotents, while MEP Korwin-Mikke said that an onanist is discriminated by the gay lobby because he cannot marry his own hand, while they can marry each other.

            “Everyone I know who visits Krakow also visits Auschwitz. I think it is the last place on earth I would want to see. I don’t know about the numbers but I am quite prepared to accept that the 6m figure is well off the mark”

            As I have been arduously explaining for years, the 6 million figure refers to the total number of people killed by Germans in Poland during WWII, and the Jews basically count all of them as Jews to extract money.

            They marketed this name Holocaust around 1972 (there is almost no reference to that word before that date) to make it into a Hollywood product like Guinness or Coca-Cola, and that’s why they went apes when Poland started chasing people for using the name “Polish death camps” – because saying “German death camps” would remind the world that no only Jews died in a Holocaust (not to mention that if roughly 3 million Jews were killed by Germans in WWII and 3 million ethnic non-Jewish Poles – this would mean that either Germany owes Poland 100bn they paid to Israel (plus nearly 900bn for material damage), or that Israel owes Poland 50bn of money that they had got and that was due to Poland.

            Btw, Auschwitz was not a death camp and it was not the worst camp. The worst camps were east of Auschwitz – the so called Operation Reinhardt.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “What is a barrel bomb? Are other bombs kinder or more humane?”

            The inhumanity of barrel bombs lies in the fact that there are unguided and filled with not only explosives, but also shrapnels – and usually very cheap, thus casualties in civilians are usually far greater while using barrel bombs (unless you are Luftwaffe in September 1939 in Warsaw and you are ordered to deliberately bomb hospitals and road traffic of refugees).

            The first usage of barrel bombs as we know today is usually attributed to the Israeli Air Force, which dropped barrel bombs on the town of Saffuriyya during Operation Dekel (On July 15–16, 1948). However, I feel compelled to defend the honour of the Nazi Germany and say authoratively that all that Isralis have done was to copy German tactics in Poland – and I am being more than sarcastic in my praise – I am being outright caustic.

            Another famous usage of barrel bombs was in Vietnam (from both sides, frankly speaking) – because it was cheap and the lives of Vietnamese were considered cheap, not only by the US, but also by the USSR and – most of all – China.

            As you know already cause I said it many times, the liberal and pro-European Germany (as opposed to the backward, narrowed minded Poles and Irish nurturing nationalims – no nationalism is healthy unless it is German or Jewish) preferred to start a war in Yugoslavia by egging on and arming the Croats and first acknowledging the Croatian state, than allow the Hexagonale project to come into being.

            Thus in 1991, barrel bombs were used by Croatian forces against Serbian forces during the Battle of Vukovar, where they were dropped from Antonov An-2 agricultural airplanes.

            The Croats have also used the first boiler bomb, but it was unsuccessful – was rolled down a hill into enemy trenches while snipers tried to blow it up before it reached their position – it eventually got stuck in a tree and “all it did was destroy a lot of trees”. (“Bosnia-Hercegovina: Sarajevo” (PDF). 6 (15). Human Rights Watch. October 1994, page 20, last paragraph).

            I am quite familiar with the war in Yugoslavia because a friend of mine – currently serving as the Under-Secretary of the State – went to war in Yugoslavia.

            Barrel bombs and cluster bombs were indubitably used by Russia in Syria – I posted a video – from RTs own website! – in the past showing them being attached to the Russian planes going to Syria while RT was denying its use in another place (they avail of the fact that almost no media watchers in the West know anything about it, and those who know are not writing for the likes of Irish Times or there are not called Ryan Tubrydy or Marian Finucane), but this is NOT to say that only Russia has used them.

        • coldblow

          Grezgorz

          I watched the video and got the gist but missed a lot. Then I noticed that someone in the comments underneath had written out an England translation.

          Are you saying that the camp near Krakow (I assume it is the same camp all the tourist go to and that it is near Krakow) didn’t hold Jews, except for a small number carrying out duties there? That when the Germans renamed all the camps Auschwitz 1, 2 etc this is what happened. So they have got it all wrong and should be visiting Birkenau? It wouldn’t really surprise me. Not now.

          Nothing can surprise me now.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            That’s right.

            Auschwitz was constructed to hold Polish political prisoners, who began to arrive in May 1940. The Jews did not start to arrive until 1942, and even then in small amounts. The Jews started to arrive on a mass scale after the first uprising in the Jewish ghetto in 1943 (the uprising was aided by the Poles). What you would conceive as Holocaust took place in Birkenau, also known as Auschwitz II – Birkenau was for the Jews, while Auschwitz was for the Poles. There was also Auschwitz III (for Gypsies), but I do not want to confuse you.

            The worst camps were not Auschwitz or even Birkenau, but Majdanek, Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibór.

            Apart from the Poles and the Jews, large number of prisoners in Auschwitz were homosexuals (from all countries).

            After WWII, the “liberating” Soviet Russia army with Polish communist (earlier parachuted from Moscow) wanted to keep Auschwitz going for the veterans of the Home Army, but because the Cold War did not really begin until 1946, they decided to catch them and imprison them instead.

            Btw, did you hear of Maximilian Kolbe?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe

            There was a movie about him.

          • coldblow

            Maximilian Kolbe is one of the saints I pray to every day. They are an eclectic bunch and include the medieval English saint, Simon Stock, from whom I took my confirmation name. Also Charles from Mount Argus in Dublin and Cardinal John Newman.

            I never saw the film (I never say ‘movie’ and used to pronounce the word film as ‘fill-um’ until my teens, the Irish way) but I did see The Song of Bernadette about Bernadette of Lourdes, an old black and white one, when my sister brought the dvd on a visit to my mother a year ago. You’d swear it was set in Kansas.

    • coldblow

      Grzegorgz

      I today’s Sindo, this has to be the most ridiculous article, and there was a lot of competition:

      http://www.independent.ie/world-news/you-could-well-be-outraged-right-now-but-remember-trump-too-will-pass-35424390.html

      It’s not ‘the’ Miriam O’Callaghan, though, judging from the photo. What’s all this about the inverted ‘B’ in the Arbeit Macht Frei sign at Auschwitz? When I read Primo Levi’s book there was no solidarity among the prisoners, rather the opposite. As I recall the Greek Jews were among the worst for ganging up on the rest.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        “As I recall the Greek Jews were among the worst for ganging up on the rest.”

        Germans applied rule and divide tactics in camps.

        This is a medal for colaboration given (by Germans for Jews working in camps). There was no such medal for Polish people, and the only reason the world found out about camps was because of Witold Pilecki, who volunteered to go to Auschwitz and escape (50 Poles died for that on the spot). The reaction of the US and England? US – stricter entry visas for the Jews from Europe and censorship on Holocaust info. England – Anthony Eden was petrified that Hitler may release Jews and they might end up in England.

        http://www.klubinteligencjipolskiej.pl/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/11/%C5%BCydzi-medal-dla-%C5%BCyd%C3%B3w-za-wsp%C3%B3%C5%82prac%C4%99-z-niemcami.jpg.

        Remember – ghettos would not have existed in Poland if it was not for the Jewish police who administered them. And in most cases the Jewish police was more brutal…

        A documentary on death camps contribution to German economy:

        https://youtu.be/CxHKeESZfRQ?t=56s

        • Deco

          Soros was in Budapest at that point in time.

          When the Hungarian Communists took over, his money was a liability not an asset. In fact the resources that he held, made the newly installed regime extremely suspicious of his activities, during the war.

          He moved to London. Where money became an asset again. And where he was able to escape the police in Hungary.

    • Truthist

      Interesting article that is relevant to topic of ur’s above Grzegorz is
      on http://www.henrymakow.com presently ;

      Immigration an Ordeal for Qualified White People

      03 February 2017

      Eastern European immigrant “Mick” compares the ordeal he went through to immigrate to Canada with the Red Carpet treatment minority refugees” seem to receive today.

      Disclaimer ; by Henry Makow himself

      I am all for minority immigration when it serves national priorities.
      I am against it when it serves the agenda of international bankers
      who want to make the European founding peoples a minority while promoting feminism and homosexuality to depress their birthrate.
      Premier Justine Trudeau has already qualified as a globalist traitor by saying Canada has “no core identity” and is “the first post-national state.”

      “Refugee” is the magic word that transforms an economic migrant into a liberal darling.

      by Mick

      EXCERPT
      “More than 16 years ago my wife and I immigrated to Canada from Eastern Europe …”

      https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/02/Immigration-an-Ordeal-for-Qualified-White-People%20.html#sthash.sHBkzMQh.dpuf

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        It’s the same with political correctness – liberal journalists (including in Ireland) regaled in pointing out the First Lady’s Slovenian accent – but look at what happened when some politicians in the US tried to point out that Obama might have been born in Kenya – outrageous! Racism! (it is illegal to be the US President if you are born in Kenya – but it is not illegal to be the First Lady if you have a Slovenian accent).

        Same with “The Sun”, or German media – the things they wrote about eastern Europeans – can you imagine they wrote that about Pakis, blacks, or Jews? For example, one of main German TV stations had a weekly comedy show with a regular feature (Die Harald Schmidt show) – jokes about the Poles. These jokes ranged from portrayal of the Poles as stupid (funny considering Poles crush Germans in PISA tests), stealing or jokes about them losing WWII.

        Can you imagine what would happen if Poland has similar jokes in its TV comedy shows? I.e. about Germany:

        “What’s the difference between a German and a shopping trolley? A shopping trolley has a mind of its own. ”

        ” Why wasn’t Jesus born in Germany? A: He couldn’t find 3 wise men or a virgin.”

        “Why did Germany capitulate? Because their saw their gas bill”

        or Germany’s ally in the smearing campaign:

        “How do you find the Jews in your neighborhood?
        Roll a euro down the road.”

        “Why do Jewish men have to be circumcised?
        Because a Jewish women wont touch anything unless it’s 20% off.”

        • Truthist

          My frenemy that I was talking about in discussion to previous blog — & followed yesterday with explanation there to ur response — told me that he has low opinion of Polish men.
          He considers them to look as dim as to how they are in intellect ; His words.
          I begged to differ that they do not look dim & surely are not dim in the main as emigrants.
          But, he did accord them the attribute of being very good workers.
          And, he defends his position with reference to the culture that he spent many years as a young buck ;
          USA.
          He reminded me that the bait of jokes in USA is “The Pollack”.

          Of course, Guard’s son existentialists are always too clever by far.
          So, they are easily given to dismissing people for their intellect & morals inter alia as they perceive them to be.

          Yet, despite his low opinion of Polish males he has high opinion of Polish females.

          I wonder what Poles in the main of both genders would think of a young buck who worked — as “straight” bellboy — for years in homosexual hotels in San Francisco in the 1970′s ?
          According to him this was the only job he could get in town.

          My very close Republican relation — for sure spied upon by frenemy’s father prior — has been told of this aspect too, & still demonstrated his solidarity with his new found friend clearly informed by me as having engaged in sustained cackling laughter to my kid’s near-death medical situations [ 2 separate near-death occurances ].

          By the way, the Department of Social Welfare responded with indifference / deaf ears of my child’s health needs.
          And, they have contrived to cheat me of statuary payments I am entitled to for mine.

          Please know this Grzegorz ;

          The Irish on the whole are now a despicable people.
          We always had most of us as 2-faced folk.
          Back-stabbers.
          Traitors.
          Everything is for show only.

          And, the foreigners here are quick to copy the game played here.

          Noble Irish ways & noble Irish people are concepts only that were always in declining expression.

          Now u know how it is that we were conquered by the Vikings & subsequently by the Normans & the EU & Wall Street.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            “he has low opinion of Polish men.
            He considers them to look as dim as to how they are in intellect”
            “Yet, despite his low opinion of Polish males he has high opinion of Polish females.”

            - it is very likely that he having these two opinions at the same time, he feels that Polish men are a threat to him in getting Polish females – but he has no moral integrity to admit it, so he resorts to invectives.

            “I wonder what Poles in the main of both genders would think of a young buck who worked — as “straight” bellboy — for years in homosexual hotels in San Francisco in the 1970?s ?” – they would advise him to keep it private and not put it on his CV.

            “According to him this was the only job he could get in town.” – if he thinks that Polish men are dim, imagine how dim he must have been – not being able to get a different job in his native language in the zero-employment 1970′s San Francisco.

            “The Irish on the whole are now a despicable people.” – the Irish on the whole are descent people, except for the nouveau riche, but they tend to select opportunists to run their country. Unable to attribute the sorry state of their country since it became independent (except for the 90s), they tend to blame it on external factors (800 years, immigration, emigration, climate change). In that they remind me a bit of the Jews, except on the whole, Jews lack fundamental decency for religious reasons (i.e., the most read book by the Jews – The Tanya, written by Shneur Zalman of Liadi, is the main work of the Chabad philosophy and the Chabad approach to Hasidic mysticism – differs from Christianity inasmuch it orders the Jews to treat the gentiles instrumentally, claiming that the souls of the Gentile nations of the world are different from those of Jewish souls, emanating instead from the realm of evil.

            In comparison, the Irish only think that foreigners are a bit strange but mostly ok, while the Poles are in general fascinated by foreigners – west of Odra river and south of Tatra mountains (Polish girls used to be fascinated by Middle Eastern men too, but not anymore). None of those two tribes would believe that you should only rescue a drowning foreigners only if it advantageous for them – which is what the Jewish religion tells you.

            And, unlike the Jews, the Irish and the Poles are self-critical.

            Having said that, there are lots of Jews who are very anti what I have described – and never forget about it.

            “We always had most of us as 2-faced folk” – I would say 2-faced, but there is this tendency in Ireland to say things that are not really meant. The Irish call it “being nice”, the Poles call it “life is too short for that bullshit”, and I see a point in both statements.

            The problem with the Irish is that they do not have an elite in a proper sense, because they do not have a proper circulation of the elites in Pareto’s sense.
            The Irish elites are in the UK and the US.
            This goes back to Flight of the Earls.

            The Poles have exactly the same problem.
            Their elites are also abroad.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Unable to attribute the sorry state of their country since it became independent (except for the 90s), = attribute it to their own choices.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            I would say 2-faced = I would not go as far as saying 2-faced

          • Truthist

            The most valued attribute in Ireland is “cuteness”,
            i.e.
            how clever / instinctively cunning / smart u are.
            “Pulling strokes” would be a proof of this.

            A close 2nd is academic prowess demonstrated by having academic qualifications.

            A close 3rd is being able to consume lots of alcohol.

            In other countries the top 3 values would be some other combination & attendant permutation of the likes of the following :
            visual beauty
            academic prowess with qualifications,
            craft skills
            sports skill
            traditional music prowess,
            hunting prowess
            sexual prowess
            inter alia

            Some people here are poor because they refuse to be duplicitous ;
            Most likely Christian Catholics ;
            Not necessarily mass-goers
            And, it possible that they have come from any background.

            The foreigners in Ireland are now proving to be a disappointment
            Mainly because in survival of the fittest regime of Land of Ire ;
            “When in Ireland, do as the Irish do.”,
            vis.,
            “U gotta play the game.”
            And, this they are doing.

            John Lennon’s song “Working Class Hero” is very on the ball about Irish society.

        • coldblow

          Grzegorz

          In England it is fine to mock the Welsh.

          About Obama and Trump, I don’t know if you ever saw this but I have to admit that it is funny:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB3CHS_m9W8

  8. mcsean2163

    Couldn’t agree more regarding planning in the city center, building up is really necessary, the m50 is a disaster.

    Eventually trends will change in cabra, terenure, et al. older people will move out and most likely young families will move in. This is a result of building large developments at once for families, the families grow up, move out and population drops but then should stabilize again when downsizing and sadly deaths occur.

    For any interested, I’m trying to get signatures on a President Trump petition..
    https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-build-that-house

    • McCawber

      The motorists on the M50 are a disaster.
      A motorcycle police patrol would sort out a lot of the problems.
      EG use of mobiles is illegal and you’ll still see people using them while their cars are in motion.

  9. HoChi

    On the First day, God made Ireland, but he made a bo**ix of every other nation and so the Irish were the Master race – but then the politicans came along and turned everything the Irish achieved over to the vulture funds who enslaved what was left of the Irish nation living in Ireland and so we were doomed to hell – destined to NEVER achieving our full potential . Talking to an Ambassador the other day, I asked her what things she saw as a problem in Ireland and she immediately cited car insurance as one problem – and so it is with a lot of things in Ireland, the government panders to the wishes of minority pressure groups while doing SFA about housing/car tax and insurance/public transport….. things that affect 90% of the population. And so the door is left open for ‘populist’ politicans to kick out the ‘old guard’ who only think to protect their ministerial pensions instead of listening to the majority of the electorate.

    • michaelcoughlan

      Spot on.

      Car tax for the older reg card too. Example; 2 litre 13 year old 7 seat peugeot nearly 800 euro. Sane car in uk about 250 gbp and on and on and on………

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        Not to mention 63pc of tax in the price of petrol. To paraphrasize President Trump, make Ireland great again by:

        1. Coming up with the National Development Plan (projects had to be approved by the unholy triad of politicians, bankers/developers and trade unions)

        2. The NDP foresaw pushing Dublin people into commuter towns located further than Antarctica, by availing of the zero-percent interest madness, the excess credit due to ECB, and availing of the fact that we have no metro and 2 tram lines – so why not commute from Co Louth?

        3. Commuting they did – in the Celtic Tiger, an average inhabitant of the island of Ireland D was spending 70% more time in a car than the inhabitant of France, and 30% more than Los Angeles (not entirely by his choice) – out of all achievements of the “I am financial genius” Fianna Fail, I would put the latter as the most astonishing (second only to the fact that building the port tunnel was more expensive than building a much longer tunnel under the Swiss Alps).

        4. But using a car releases CO2. Greens, enter the stage – they came up with an idea to tax the very same people they subjected to NDP and forced to live in Mordor.

        I am sorry, not in Mordor – in Longford (which is one and the same thing): “One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its black gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep. The great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire, ash, and dust. The very air you breathe is a poisonous fume.”). Greens have another great idea – FF was toying with an idea of maybe not doing NAMA, but as predicted by Ozzy Osborne, the Greens stood by the NAMA plan:

        “Some people say NAMA cannot be true
        Please believe me, Cowen, and I’ll show you
        I will give you those things you thought unreal
        The crash, the bailout, the debts all bear Greens seal.

        Follow me, voter, and you will not regret
        Leaving the job you had before we met
        You are the first to have this new debt of mine
        Forever with Ireland ’till the end of time.

        Now I have you with me, under banks power
        Our loan grows stronger now with every hour
        Look into my eyes, you’ll see who I am
        NAMA is Lucifer, please take my hand”

        5. Here comes the refugee crisis. German, Dutch and French insurance companies experienced lots of cars burned down by the new cultural enrichment arrivals, so they off-set their loses by putting up the car insurance prices – 48% in Poland in 2017, and I forgot Michael how much yours went up.

        6. So less Trevelyanic government would reduce the tax on petrol in order to allieviate the pain they inflicted on people (and – let’s be honest – people inflicted on themselves by getty silly and greedy with property speculation, and voting for the same four parties for 100 years expecting different results each time).

        7. Hmm… I wonder why some people think that it is too expensive to live here. This is one regret Bertie Ahern has – that he made Ireland too expensive to live for those commuting 70k (though I worked with a guy who was commuting 120k – ONE WAY).

        8. Except he did not – his biggest regret was…

        http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/politics/no-stadium-is-aherns-biggest-regret-59592.html

        9. And now his back, reflecting, advising, warning, leaning a fatherly ear to the mortal coil of little worms like me bound by exorbitant rents and 63% tax in petrol (that goes for what exactly, considering that we only have one finished motorway really – uniquely in Europe, with no toilets – plus the M50 with their concentration camps resembling flat industrial estates and houses – and the Teflon Taoiseach is gearing up for what – Presidency?

        F…k me pink, as a chap from Ballymun I used to know used to say…

        10. To me it does not make any sense. I mean, the fact that Fianna Fail even still exists, let alone grows in power and corrupts people like Stephen Donnelly, drives me to the following conclusion: there are two options: eiter I am insane or the Irish electorate is. Fianna Fail with a tilly bit of Fine Gael, or Fine Gael with the support of Fianna Fail, Labour-Does-Not-Work, and Sinn Fein who voted for the bank guarantee and hiding their expenses in the European Parliament? Who to choose?
        Jeez, it’s a tough one. But it’s up to the Irish to decide. Personally, I would choose the dynamite.

    • Deco

      Oil is deemed to be the Devil’s gift to Mexico because of the corruption and theft that it inspired. It nurtured and morphed a toxic morality that has caused enormous problems across the entire society.

      Ireland’s dominant brewery occupies a similar position in Ireland.

  10. Irish PI

    No wonder only 1000 people live in Gerogeian Limerick AKA Newtown perry. The buildings are not fit for purpose ,old decrepit and falling down. In the entire area there is not one elevator in those buildings.They are disabled unfriendly,starting at the front steps and at least four flights of 20 steps each stairs.They could be pouplated if two things happened[1]The Luftwaffe had bombed them to rubble between 1939 and 1945 or [2]The ridicilous preservation orders are lifted and these buildings are gutted internally and rebuilt to allow modern facilities be put in like wheelchair lifts and elevators.You can make them attactive as possible,but what person is going to lug the groceries,and household furniture,bike or baby carrige up and down 60 stair steps?
    Also,choking off the main artery O Connell st and making it pedesterian wont encourage anyone along with high rates to move into the city centre either.. Trouble is our city planning is ten years behind the game,has no forward thinking,and s hidebound by stupid rules as well.

  11. Truthist

    @ Grzegorz,

    In Aanirfan.blogspot.com’s latest article — it is about “David Beckham whom I always consider to not be able to head the ball, nor tackle, nor dribble, but apart from that is not a bad player” ref. George Best & whom Truthist likes for being a charming & pleasant chap but is revealed here as being a bit of a miser — is an interesting post by poster Brabantian highlighting Poland dissident jailed for anti-NATO stance of his ;

    “Dr Mateusz Piskorski, chairman of the Zmiana ‘Change’ political party, is a renowned Polish scholar & anti-NATO activist who has been held in prison in Warsaw on no charges since May 2016, when he exposed NATO plans to suppress protests in Eastern Europe.”
    Ref.
    katehon.com/article/mateusz-piskorski-liberation-poland-and-europe

    Just “Highlight” > “Right-Click” > “Select ‘Go to … ; particular Link’

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/02/beckham-charity-kosher-nostra.html

    p.s.
    Beckham — despite he only being “not a bad player” in estimation of “The Best” — is here reported as being possibly or probably worth in region of Petro Dollars 800 million.

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      “post by poster Brabantian highlighting Poland dissident jailed for anti-NATO stance of his ;Dr Mateusz Piskorski, chairman of the Zmiana ‘Change’ political party, is a renowned Polish scholar & anti-NATO activist who has been held in prison in Warsaw on no charges since May 2016, when he exposed NATO plans to suppress protests in Eastern Europe.”

      Mateusz Piskorski was held in prison not because he exposed anything, but because he was caught red-handed contacting and taking money from Russian spies in Poland. If such situation took place in Russia, we would not probably even hear of him anymore. Piskorski was also actively engaged with Donbas separatists movement, and performed actions in the Ukraine which put Polish diaspora in western Ukraine in danger (as if it was not in enough danger already).

      Brabantian’s post is either a post of a complete idiot or Russian propagandists – I am not aware of any NATO plans to suppress protests in Eastern Europe – anti-NATO politicians in Poland air their opinions freely and one of them was even speaking in Ireland a couple of times.

      Piskorski does not even hide anymore that his political activity was financed by FSB – his line of defense in court is that he had only found out about it later.

      He is not a renowned scholar by any means – he has a PhD from political science (on the role of the Polish 90s pro-Russian party in Polish political system).

      If you want to look for real victims of the Polish prison system, look for Zygmunt Miernik – who protested against Polish courts protecting the communist butcher in charge of secrete service, Czeslaw Kiszczak, by throwing a cake into the Judge. Unlike Piskorski, who was living a very comfortable life for Russian money, Miernik actually lost his job as a result of this, and would have become homeless if a couple of thousend people whom I am involved with did not chip in to pay rent for the time he spent in prison. Mr Miernik was sentenced for one year in prison, and I have personally written to a friend of mine – assistant to the President of Poland – to pardon Mr Miernik, which he had done so.

      • Truthist

        Of course, I was suspicious of the worthiness of what was said in praise of Piskorski ;

        Even how well the website page in his defense is written caused me to suspect spook campaign.

  12. The only real thing to bother Ireland in the next 5 years will be the collapse of the monetary system, stock bond and housing markets. The collapse of the EURO currency.
    There are no plans for that.
    It needs an independent money system. A national currency, backed by silver. No plans for that either. Easy to do but economic serfdom is preferred.
    Let the banksters prevail. Bail outs will happen again. Pension plans and savings will be bailed in. Your deposit at the bank is an unsecured loan to the bank.You are an unsecured creditor with no rights when the bank is bankrupt. All banks are already insolvent if assets were marked to market value.

    A world built on debt is unsustainable. No plans for that. The world is an ugly place already as all the takers outnumber the givers. givers are coerced by government. The is no such thing as capitalism existing anymore. Capital is eroded by inflation and consumed by debt. What little savings is left is used for consumption. Wealth is created from the application of savings to energy and expertise. There are no savings thus no capital formed. A capitalist society cannot exist if debts outnumber savings. Thank the debt based ponzi scheme you insist on using for money. It is not real money but an iou piece of script. It has no value there is nothing backing it. There are no plans for this.

    The lord helps those who help themselves!!
    Do you have a plan for that? The government does not..

    • goldbug

      @TONY

      “THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR THAT”

      -> BECAUSE THAT IS THE PLAN

      -> MARXISM 101

      -> SOCIALISE EVERYTHING

      WHAT IS MARXISM?

      “THE LIE OF EQUALITY”

      -> MAKE TWO UNEQUAL THINGS EQUAL

      .
      .

      EXAMPLE 1.

      TO MAKE THE RICH equal POOR

      => SOCIALISE WEALTH

      => TAKE FROM THE RICH AND GIVE TO THE POOR

      OR

      => CENTRAL BANKING

      IT IS THE FIRST PLANK OF MARX

      -> BECAUSE IT FUNDS THE REST

      => SO IT WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED

    • Truthist

      1 of ur very very best posts.

      A supremely fluid read of logic & damn relevantly important, & urgent, stuff for all citizens.

      All those posts giving quotes etc from http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/ et all — very worthy that they are — are over the heads & foreboding for the minds of the vast majority of readers.
      From the outset, they are too lazy to stretch their minds for to try to understand real economics.
      They stick to what they prefer to talk about ;
      Surface stuff.

      But, when u give explanations in ur own words I bet u garner fresh interest ;
      Although, not evident in numbers of requited posts here.

      The day u get Deco delving into the overwhelming logic of ur arguments ;
      ==> then u know that u on the brink of achieving the critical mass u deserve.
      Deco will pull them.
      Forget about trying to get DMW to blatantly admit that he was wrong & that u are correct ;
      It will not happen ;
      Because, I sense that DMW is too proud to do this.
      But, slowly he is coming around.
      He has no choice ;
      Because his peers are already doing so, & DMW is one who really wishes to avoid being left behind with his pants down.

    • McCawber

      The CBs are helping those that help themselves.
      I*ve point out further down that when cash has been eliminated the CBs will trigger the reset and will rob us all blind.
      Mission Impossible.
      Describe, in your own words, a typical day in the life of joe citizen, post reset.

      • New money will appear in the fashion described in the real bills doctrine . As used in the large medieval fares. As already provided to the attendees at kilkenomics as designed in agreement with our own DMW. He has provided a part of the solution to the banking crisis without realizing it is a partial solution. The balance of the solution is to settle the final tally at the end of the week in precious metal rather than paper ponzi script.

        Imagine the Kilkenomic attendees to pay for their tickets with silver coin. Imagine all the Kilkenny affiliated merchants accepting silver coin. Imagine the Kilkenomic issued paper script all being backed by silver coin.

        Imagine the effect this would have on all the panelists and speakers. Imagine the press reviews. Imagine the fame it would bring to DMW. Imagine the speaking tours and the celebrity status and the interviews. Imagine the fortune.

        Immagine Kilkenny as the first place in the world in 100 years using honest money. Just imagine.

        Now that IS something to plan for. Planning HOPE for the future.

        • Pondering the above a little further.

          Rather than asking the attendees to pay in silver do this.
          It is a custom that Kilkenny money is issued to attendees with which to buy tickets to shows and these are honoured by many merchants.

          Rather than script issue silver coin in two weights a one ounce and a half ounce. Set a value in euros that covers the cost of the coin and a profit for the organizer, say 20% above the spot price of silver.

          At present silve is 16.50 EURO an ounce. 20% above that is 19.80 EURO. If this were the price then the one ounce silver coin would be given a trade value of 20 EURO or even 25 EURO if the spot moves higher. THE kilkenny silver ounce would never go lower than the 20E but could rise to be 25E. The half ounce could be 50% of that value.

          A person buys the tickets online or in cash at a physical outlet. Rather than Kilkenny script they get silver coin to use for the shows and the merchants accept the coin at trade value.

          What a thrill it would be for people to receive real money in hand. They would marvel at its weight as they heft it in hand. Admire its beauty and discuss its intrinsic value. Most would pay for the coins in fiat script and have the coins as keepsakes to save and take home with them. The international speakers will take them to foreign shores.
          Kilkenomics will be a true economic show.

        • With time on hand before the next show it is possible to design and mint a unique Kilkenny coin(s). This Kilkenny coin could be minted in enough volume that it could remain in use the year round.

          That would be a wonderful advancement in the use of real money in Ireland and even a start for the rest of the world.

          There is nothing so convincing as leading by example.

  13. Deco

    Planning ?

    The only thing that we Irish plan is getting drunk, and escapism. And of course the media keep us on track, to make sure that we do not become too independent minded.

    The Irish media has more power now, than the RCC ever had. And this is one of the results – sports-madness.

    http://ericpetersautos.com/2017/02/05/the-relief-valve/

    When I read this, I think of what is now a core belief system for large proportions fo stupid men in this country.

    [

    Strong passions can erupt in unpredictable ways.

    The government understands this – and desires that strong passions be diverted in a harmless – to the government – way.

    Enter the cultivated, culturally and socially enforced obsession with organized, mass spectacle sports.

    ]

    [

    the average man has little meaningful control over his life. He does as he’s told – from driving the speed limit to paying “his” taxes. In the land of individuality, collectivism and conformity is the rule.

    He must Submit and Obey. He must never raise his voice to question authority.

    This stifling of independent action, punishment of deviation from any official orthodoxy and relentless suppression of independent judgment and self-reliance… this systematic thwarting of a normal man’s inclination to be a man. . . well, the pressure builds.

    The movie, Falling Down, captured this brilliantly. Unfortunately for Michael Douglas’ character, he wasn’t interested in “the game.”

    The demand that men submit and obey is also hammered into today’s boys – usually by women.

    Orwell got one thing wrong. It is not Big Brother.

    It is Big Sister.
    ]
    [
    Note that in the Soviet Union, people were still largely free to partake of petty vices such as booze and cigarettes. Soviet power didn’t limit the size of sodas or force people to wear seat belts. It enforced political conformity only.

    Maybe that’s why fuhhhhhhttttttball was never a big deal in the Soviet Union.
    ]

    [
    he learns to do what he’s told.

    The rage boils but silently; it must have an outlet.

    Enter the game.

    He is empowered! On Sunday, he can be bellow like a rutting Cape Buffalo as his team takes the field. He basks in the reflected glory of their victory. He merges with the crowd, it overtakes him. Becomes him.

    He is a member of the community of men once more.
    ]

    [
    Garish flappy pennants festoon his vehicles.

    This, of course, being not only allowed but encouraged by the government.

    And when “we” lose the game, our cuckolded American sports worshipper is demoralized and dejected – sometimes, for days on end. He feels great disappointment.

    He is angry.

    But in a way utterly harmless to the government.

    He seethes, he yells, he shakes his fist . . . at the enemy team on the screen.

    Never at the true enemy. . . .

    Axiom: The more hopeless a society is, the more under the thumb of the government-corporate nexus, the greater the adulation of professional sports teams and the deification of athletes. It is a kind of sweaty lottery – a means of dangling desperate hopes before hopeless people who might become dangerous if it ever occurred to them that there is no hope for them.

    But hey – did you see that tackle?

    The most loathsome dog torturing thug, outright rapists and murderers… beloved and forgiven, so long as they can run and throw or catch.

    Always “the game.” Tonight’s. Yesterday’s. Tomorrow’s. An endless obsession with irrelevance.

    Enstupidation accelerates.

    It has been said that religion is the opiate of the masses. But religions center on values – and so, upon philosophy.

    In other words, on things that matter.

    The game does not matter.

    All the natural, healthy emotions – including most especially anger – are adroitly redirected. Instead of being furious about constantly being required to disprove his alleged guilt, about having to submit to random, probable cause-free searches and such like by an increasingly tyrannical state, about being micromanaged and taxed and never, ever left in peace . . . the gelded, stoop-shouldered creature sitting in front of his TeeVeee is apopletic about that “bad call,” that the “we” weren’t able to convert on third and long.
    ]

    In Ancient Rome, increasing levels of corruption, and incompetence and eventual societal decline were facilitate by organised distractions in the arena. Nothing has changed.

    The answer – BOYCOTT SPORTS.

    In today’s world that is like heresy against the

    That is why everything else is such an expensive, underperforming mess.

    People are not focussed to the best of their abilities.

    This is why a submissive society always underperforms.

    Green jerseys replace character development as the essence of manhood.

    EVERYTIME YOU SEE A GREEN JERSEY, THAT IS A MAN IN HIS VERY OWN ‘SAFE ZONE’ OF UNDERPERFORMANCE, DISTRACTION, MEDIOCRITY, AND CONFORMITY.

    Conformity to what you may ask ?

    Conformity to nonsense that does NOT MATTER.

    • Very good, Deco.
      Bread and circuses is the rote of the day.
      Sports bars are endemic in the places I have been lately. From Mexico to Vancouver. We are returned to our TV set of over 100 channels and barely anything worth viewing.

      I find more enjoyment shoveling the snow off the driveway. There is more joy in watching four and twenty black birds arrive at the feeder. more interest in identifying which song birds are hopping around for the fallen seeds.

      Our value systems are distorted as much as the economic morass. one leads to the other. A loss of moral values leads to a degeneration of existence.

  14. McCawber

    Great article.
    It’s always good to get the perspective of outsiders.

  15. McCawber

    The however is what events could occur that would derail the plan.
    Brexit won’t help but makes good strategic planning even more essential.
    The great reset is the most likely evebt.
    When might that occur?
    About 8 years from now is the most likely estimate.
    Donald Trump second term in office will be coming to an end.
    Far more importantly the ECB project “No more cash” will also be reaching completion.
    The powers that be know all about the great reset and are preparing accordingly.
    Bail in was a step in those preparations but once there is no cash they own us.
    There will be no cash in about 8 years time.
    At that point they can trigger the reset and wipe our slates clean.
    A rhetorical question for the moment but what will a typical day look like for the average Joe citizen who has no money and means of getting it because it doesn’t exist.

  16. Truthist

    Miriam O’Callaghan is a “Gatekeeper” for the Institutional State of the Irish State [ our own ISIS ] ;
    No wonder she is anti-Syria / anti-Assad.

    She is “no good” for underclass Irish.

    I seem to recall that she revealed how good she was at adultery on her 1st husband Tom McGurk.
    So, she is good at something after all.

  17. Here is an interesting plan. Perhaps we will see a proper audit of the Federal Reserve that will tell us the true state of the nation’s and indeed the world’s financial situation.

    CORE PRINCIPLES FOR REGULATING

    THE UNITED STATES FINANCIAL SYSTEM

    By the power vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Policy. It shall be the policy of my Administration to regulate the United States financial system in a manner consistent with the following principles of regulation, which shall be known as the Core Principles:

    (a) empower Americans to make independent financial decisions and informed choices in the marketplace, save for retirement, and build individual wealth;

    (b) prevent taxpayer-funded bailouts;

    (c) foster economic growth and vibrant financial markets through more rigorous regulatory impact analysis that addresses systemic risk and market failures, such as moral hazard and information asymmetry;

    (d) enable American companies to be competitive with foreign firms in domestic and foreign markets;

    (e) advance American interests in international financial regulatory negotiations and meetings;

    (g) restore public accountability within Federal financial regulatory agencies and rationalize the Federal financial regulatory framework.

    Sec. 2. Directive to the Secretary of the Treasury. The Secretary of the Treasury shall consult with the heads of the member agencies of the Financial Stability Oversight Council and shall report to the President within 120 days of the date of this order (and periodically thereafter) on the extent to which existing laws, treaties, regulations, guidance, reporting and recordkeeping requirements, and other Government policies promote the Core Principles and what actions have been taken, and are currently being taken, to promote and support the Core Principles. That report, and all subsequent reports, shall identify any laws, treaties, regulations, guidance, reporting and recordkeeping requirements, and other Government policies that inhibit Federal regulation of the United States financial system in a manner consistent with the Core Principles.

    Sec. 3. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

    (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

    (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

    (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

    DONALD J. TRUMP

  18. Truthist

    Links of current news that prove Irish State excels at planning & then executing those nefarious plans :

    Just “Highlight” > “Right-Click” > “Select ‘Go to … ; particular Link’

    independent.ie/irish-news/councils-owed-300m-in-loans-found-renting-out-properties-for-10-a-year-35425941.html

    irishexaminer.com/ireland/cork-city-council-slated-for-lack-of-financial-records-on-properties-437531.html

    CORK CITY — “THE CITY OF THE MERCHANT PRINCES” [ MANY WERE HUGUENOT ] — IS PLACE WHERE MOST OF SIGNIFICANT “STROKES” EMANATE FROM.

    independent.ie/irish-news/civil-servants-will-pay-nothing-towards-pensions-if-unions-get-their-way-on-levy-35425931.html

    independent.ie/business/personal-finance/pensions/large-differences-in-contributions-of-300000-workers-35425932.html

    irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cabinet-memo-warns-public-sector-pay-deal-has-taken-all-extra-funds-for-existing-services-775666.html

    AND, SURELY THE FOLLOWING REEKS OF IRISH STATE “AD HOC” PLANNING + EXECUTION OF RESULTING PLAN
    HECK, WE NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT ABOUT DETECTIVE McCABE WHO GOT KILLED IN SHOOT-OUT IN WHICH McCABE — A TRAINED KILLER WITH UZI [ I PRESUME ] SUB-MACHINE GUN –WAS PROTECTING THE BANKSTERS’ PAPER FIAT.
    PROVOS SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT ROBBERY OF COURSE.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/it-is-not-for-the-dpp-or-garda-to-be-the-judge-and-jury-tds-demand-review-of-fatal-stabbing-case-35408763.html

  19. Here is a plan

    “Le Pen launches presidential bid on an anti-Eurozone platform: Le Monde reported that Marine Le Pen, leader of the French Front National, launched her presidential campaign this weekend in Lyon, in which she promised to pull France out of the Eurozone if elected. She said, “by staying in the euro, they are sinking our economy, they are sustaining mass unemployment and they are giving the European Union the force to impose its views, its inept directives and its millions of migrants.”

    Here is a toast to a rational plan!

  20. http://www.businessinsider.com/it-might-be-impossible-to-keep-up-with-chinas-demand-for-gold-2017-2?IR=T

    100′s of millions of chinese would like to buy gold but have no access to be able to do so. Even the chinese demand alone amounts to over 50% of the annual worlds mined production. other world demand from nations and individuals far exceeds the other 50% of the mined gold. The shortfall is coming from western sources. That is Asian and Russian demand is taking gold from the west and moving it East or North.
    We soon run out of this available western supply source. Perhaps the diminishment of Western gold will be revealed by an Audit of the Fed Res.

    Soon the crunch arrives. Be prepared.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/it-might-be-impossible-to-keep-up-with-chinas-demand-for-gold-2017-2?IR=T

  21. “What happens to a country when the alternative voice is even more stupid and corrupt than the government’s voice?–PCR

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/03/leftwing-placed-trash-can-history-paul-craig-roberts/

  22. The Royal Mint in London reports that coin sales are on the rise amid political turmoil, with sales to Germany more than doubling in volume last year and sales to the U.K. rising by over a quarter. Chris Howard, the director of bullion at the Royal Mint, says that coin and bar production is up 50 percent compared with a year ago. The group expects similar growth this year through expansion in the U.S. and German markets.
    Political concerns from the EU to the U.S. sent gold rebounding to a three-year high in 2016. According to the World Gold Council, purchases through exchange-traded funds helped global demand climb about 2 percent to 4,309 metric tons last year. This was driven by inflows into gold-backed ETFs of 532 tonnes, offsetting a decline in coin and jewelry demand.
    Frank Holmes 5th Feb 2017

  23. In the physical markets, despite China’s week-long closure to observe the Chinese New Year (Year of the Rooster), the eastern hemisphere markets continue to “consume” a lot of physical gold. Premiums all week in India have been high enough to reflect moderate to heavy legal kilo bar importation. Dore bar imports have been flowing steadily for several weeks. Additionally, Vietnamese were paying $135 over world spot gold, indicating voracious demand.

    The latest official Swiss gold export report for December shows that the Swiss exported 154 tonnes of gold to mainland China in December. This was almost four times higher than exports to Hong Kong and more than three times the amount of gold shipped from from HK into China’s mainland. This would be the gold that enters China via Beijing and Shanghai that goes unaccounted for by the World Gold Council and the GFMS data-keepers. Additionally, East and South Asian countries accounted for 87% of Swiss gold exports in December.

    Thus, contrary to the popular mainstream financial fake news, China’s appetite for gold remains voracious. Needless to say, all the “stars are aligning” for what could be a spectacular year for the precious metals and mining stocks. Not the least of which is the unpredictability of, and the undefinable nature of, the Trump presidency.

    http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/category/financial-markets/

  24. Truthist

    Henry Makow of http://www.henrymakow.com tweeted this as recommendation to view ;

    HEADING ;
    The Most Satisfying Thing You’ll Watch Today: Marion Le Pen Dismantles Feminist Hypocrisy in 3 Minutes

    SUB-HEADING ;
    The niece of Front National leader Marine Le Pen gives a scathing rebuke to the “has-been feminists” and “political dinosaurs” haunting French parliament

    04 Feb 2017

    EXTRACT ;
    With so much doom and gloom in the news cycle, we thought it would be prudent to share something that will help restore your faith in humanity.

    Marion Maréchal-Le Pen, the elegant, articulate niece of Front National leader Marine Le Pen, dissected the dizzying mental gymnastics of modern day feminism during a scathing 3-minute speech in front of her fellow French parliamentarians.

    Le Pen made her remarks during debate on a ban of pro-life websites and the spread of “false information” regarding abortions, but she went after more than just SJW censorship:

    Feminism had been reduced to “sexism in grammar, a pink toy in a happy meal”, Maréchal-Le Pen said, adding that feminists had “lost the plot” on real threats. The real threats, she said, were issues like the migrant sex assault in Cologne on New Year’s Eve 2015/2016 and Islamic law which she said was “being enforced in some of France’s districts”.

    She slammed feminists’ views of the “patriarchy” and their placing blame on “heterosexual white men”. She also accused leftists of cosying up to Islamists to further their cause adding the alliance was the reason “self-proclaimed protectors of women’s rights” defend the Islamic veil which she called an “Islamic submission tool”.

    Watch the entire, glorious 3 minutes:

    http://russia-insider.com/en/most-satisfying-thing-youll-watch-today-marion-le-pen-dismantles-feminist-hypocrisy-3-minutes

  25. Truthist

    CAN THE KNIFE CUT ITSELF ?

    WARNING BY U-KNOW-WHO TO NEO-COHEN Mr. TUSK FROM POLAND

    Illinois warns European Union on boycotting settlements
    Governer tells Donald Tusk that his state pension plans forbid investing in companies that divest from Israel

    05 Feb. 2017,

    Governor Bruce Rauner signs landmark anti-BDS legislation for the state of Illinois on July 23, 2015.

    In the wake of the UN anti-settlements resolution, the governor of Illinois warned the European Union that companies complying with boycotts of Israel or of its West Bank settlements face divestment by the governments of Illinois and other states.

    Gov. Bruce Rauner, in his January 31 letter to Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, outlines Illinois law banning state pension plans from investing in companies that boycott Israel.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/illinois-warns-european-union-on-boycotting-settlements/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    • Truthist

      NEO-COHEN = NEO-KOHN = NEO-CON ;
      Phonetically speaking at least 8-)

      “Mowing the grass” of West Bank & Gaza too coming soon.

      Heretofore “Bad man” Trump has just crossed the Rubicon to being “Evil man” Trump ;

      Ref.
      HEADING
      Obama Killed an American Teen in Yemen

      Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister

      EXTRACT
      While President Trump was publicly mourning the death of a SEAL Team 6 member, and several others wounded in the raid on a compound purported to harbor al-Qaeda officials, reports from Yemen indicate that as many as 10 women and children were also killed in the raid.
      As usual, public reports in the corporate mainstream media failed to acknowledge any of the civilian deaths, after the U.S. military initially denied that any civilians were killed in the raid.
      According to a report by the Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald:
      In a hideous symbol of the bipartisan continuity of U.S. barbarism, Nasser al-Awlaki just lost another one of his young grandchildren to U.S. violence.
      On Sunday, the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, using armed Reaper drones for cover, carried out a commando raid on what it said was a compound harboring officials of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
      A statement issued by President Trump lamented the death of an American service member and several others who were wounded, but made no mention of any civilian deaths.
      U.S. military officials initially denied any civilian deaths, and (therefore) the CNN report on the raid said nothing about any civilians being killed.
      But reports from Yemen quickly surfaced that 30 people were killed, including 10 women and children.
      Among the dead: the 8-year-old granddaughter of Nasser al-Awlaki, who was also the daughter of Anwar Awlaki.
      Award-winning investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill – who extensively interviewed the grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, in Yemen for his book and Oscar Award winning film “Dirty Wars” – tweeted that the child’s grandfather informed him that she was “was shot in the neck and killed,” with the child subsequently bleeding to death over the course of two hours.
      In 2011, the now-deceased 8-year-old’s father, Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen never charged with a crime, was assassinated by a drone strike in Yemen.
      Although designated an al-Qaeda terrorist by the U.S., the killing of an American citizen without due process was extremely controversial and led to a lawsuit against the Obama administration that was subsequently dismissed by the court.
      Only two weeks later after the killing of Awlaki, another CIA drone strike in Yemen killed al-Awlaki’s 16-year-old son, Abdulrahman, also a U.S. citizen – and not a suspected terrorist – in addition to his 17-year-old cousin and a number of other innocent Yemenis, reported Greenwald.

      http://thefreethoughtproject.com/obama-yemen-trump-sister/

      What a beautiful little girl she was.
      http://www.bawabatii.com/news104977.html

      TRUMP IS NOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF :
      SECRETARY OF STATE VICTORIA NULAND
      SECRETARY OF STATE MADELINE ALBRIGHT
      PRESIDENT BARRACK OBAMA
      SECRETARY OF STATE, & DEM[ON] / TROTSKYITE PARTY NOMINEE FOR PREZZIE HILLARY CLINTON
      PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON
      PRESIDENT “BABY” BUSH
      PRESIDENT “PAPA” BUSH
      PRESIDENT JOHNSON
      GENERAL EISSENHOWER
      inter alia

  26. StephenKenny

    “Without planning, new Ireland will be unpleasant, angry and unstable”.
    Then, let’s be honest, new Ireland is going to get unpleasant, angry, and unstable.

  27. Conclusion: Trump understands that he needs to end the Fed if he want the nation to truly become healthier. But he may settle for controlling the Fed for his own purposes. That would be too bad.

    http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/republicans-reeling-in-fed/

  28. Truthist

    Apropos of mini-thread of discussion above on Climate Change & Global Warming & all that jazz.
    The famous economist Martin Armstrong just posted this ;

    HEADING
    U.N. Official Admits Global Warming Agenda Is Really About Destroying Capitalism

    03 Feb 2017

    Submitted by Martin Armstrong via ArmstrongEconomics.com

    SUB-HEADING
    A shocking statement was made by a United Nations official Christiana Figueres at a news conference in Brussels.

    EXTRACT
    Figueres admitted that the Global Warming conspiracy set by the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, of which she is the executive secretary, has a goal not of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but to destroy capitalism. She said very casually:

    “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

    She even restated that goal ensuring it was not a mistake:

    “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

  29. Truthist

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3taQNBWcAAJr-0.jpg

    And, later the man + woman were told ;

    “Go forth & do NOT multiply !”

    Irish State government minister Mzzz Katherine Zappone — Misandrist & Abortion / Murdering of Pre-born Children advocate — is all the ways from USA here to fulfill this decree.
    That is some indictment on the constituency that voted her into Dail Eireann.

  30. Truthist

    Of course, certain folk are patient enough to have very very long term plans … for control of the world.
    .
    And, a crucial strategy has been to corrupt the Gospels of Christ.
    .
    .
    The Zio-Christians — Judeo-Christians [ But, surely a oxymoron term ] — are “testimony” of this now executed plan.
    And, the account for the major proportion of the retrograde portion of Trump’s electorate.

    http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_doctrinal_changes.html

  31. Truthist

    FOR THE IGNORAMUSES WHO READ THIS BLOG

    Please do not feel insulted.
    I mean that statement in the same vein as the following from the Christ.

    “I have not come to call righteous ones, but sinners, to repentance.” …
    Luke 19:10

    HEADING

    “Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation.
    Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

    EXTRACT

    “When, through process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of the government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers.

    “These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world.

    “By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance.

    “It is thus, by discrete action, we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.”

    Montagu Norman, Governor of The Bank Of England, addressing the United States Bankers’ Association, NYC 1924

    NB: This quotation was reprinted in the Idaho Leader, USA, on 26th August 1924.

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=146538

    • “By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance.”

      Likewise, here on this blog, discussion and endless debate of side issues will not provide a resolution of the defeat of the aims of such as Montague Norman.

  32. Truthist

    Well, great balls of fire, surely they mean they are joining the Mshd ?
    Or is it that we are being subject to an exercise in propaganda to dis-orientate us so that we just give up trying to make sense of the whole shebang ?

    But, anyway, here goes with what this article says ;

    HEADING

    French Jews are converting to Islam and even joining ISIS

    15 Sep 2016

    Posted with permission from Arutz Sheva

    SUB-HEADING
    According to reports from Jewish leaders in France, there is concern about a rise in conversions to Islam from within the Jewish community.

    THE ARTICLE ITSELF
    According to reports from Jewish community leaders in France, there is growing concern about a rise in conversions to Islam from within the Jewish community, with the active encouragement of French Moslems.

    Sammy Ghozlan, head of the National Bureau for Vigilance Against Antisemitism in France says he knows of cases where entire families converted to Islam. The 15-year-old daughter of a Jewish doctor wrote that “all the Jews must be killed” after converting.

    In many cases the Moslem recruiters who wish to persuade Sephardic Jewish youth to convert, entice them by pointing out their joint background from Islamic countries and the difference between their culture and that of the French Christians.

    Ghozlan added that another factor attracting youth is the power of Islam and ISIS to carry out terror attacks in the Western world. The youths do not see Israel as a successful entity as they might have once and identify more with ISIS’s success.

    A number of years ago it was reported that French Jews were even joining the ranks of ISIS after their conversions and travelling to ISIS- occupied territories. It is estimated that there are 100,000 French converts to Islam from both Jewish and Christian backgrounds but it is difficult to ascertain precise numbers of the Jewish converts.

    The Jewish community has set up a de-Islamification fund as well as a hotline for youth wishing to convert in an attempt to combat this phenomenon. Community leaders also raised the worrying issue of whether such youth might utilize the Law of Return and succeed in entering Israel under the guise of their Jewish origins

    http://www.sdjewishworld.com/2016/09/15/french-jews-are-converting-to-islam-and-even-joining-isis/

  33. Truthist

    But how to plan for to cope with complete disfunctionality ?

    Clearly, the more this behavior is promoted ;
    ==> the more converts it gets.

    “There’s none as queer as folk”

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdc-gay-men-make-up-only-2-of-us-but-63-of-all-new-aids-cases?utm_content=bufferb9bae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=lifesitenews%2Btwitter&utm_campaign=buffer

  34. Truthist

    Update on “Pizza-gate” ;

    HEADING
    FBI: Pizzagate Arrests ‘Imminent’ In Washington Pedophile Ring Bust

    04 February 2017

    SUB-HEADING
    An FBI whistleblower has confirmed that 30 politicians and 40 other individuals are to be arrested in Washington D.C. and New York City in connection with the Pizzagate pedophile ring.

    EXTRACT
    An FBI whistleblower has confirmed that 30 politicians and 40 other individuals are to be arrested in Washington D.C. and New York City in connection with the “Pizzagate” pedophile ring, and more suspects are under investigation as the investigation continues “branching out in unexpected directions.“

    The insider at the Federal Bureau of Investigation claims that the FBI has just finished (3 pm 2/2/17) submitting paperwork to the Department of Justice in preparation for the “Pizzagate” arrests which will begin as soon as Jeff Sessions is confirmed as Attorney General.

    Mr. Sessions has been briefed on the far-reaching investigation and all of the evidence three weeks ago.

    Investigators say they have held files on high-ranking politicians for years. However, they didn’t find a concrete lead until November 2016, when they monitored three suspects after they were allegedly caught using coded language in an internet forum created by the FBI to trap pedophiles.

    The police Pizzagate investigation then branched out from there, eventually uncovering a tangled web of crime thriving in Washington D.C.’s corridors of power.

    “I’ve never been involved in an investigation that kept branching out in so many unexpected directions,” he said.

    According to the anonymous insider:

    Information was finally submitted from the FBI to the DOJ today at 3 pm. Mr. Sessions was briefed 3 weeks ago as to the investigation in its entirety. Once assumes his position, arrest warrants will be signed, and arrests will be made. This is also why the Democratic Party in DC has been fighting the Sessions vote. Panic.

    Furthermore, starting Monday or Tuesday of next week, you will begin to start seeing arrests of individuals. Over 30 politicians (many are household names), and over 40 other individuals throughout DC, VA and also a handful in NYC. Some may off their selves before they are apprehended, so keep an eye out for that over the weekend, and you will know they are involved in some manner.

    The child pedophilia ring/sex trafficking arrests California was not related, at least no evidence yet to suggest that it was. May be wrong has people begin to talk, or make deals on the matter.

    Although the insider refused to reveal all the names on the list of those to be arrested by the FBI, they did reveal that the following will be arrested :
    Democrat and US Senator, Chuck Ellis Schumer,
    Senator Tim Kaine
    former Attorney General of Connecticut Richard Blumenthal.

    So, what is going to happen about Hillary Clinton & Huma [ Indian Sub-Continent / NOT Saudi Arabia ; Although, majority conflate her previous location to be also her ethnicity ] ?

  35. Truthist

    As if Planning & Plans ==> Virtue ?
    No, they do not necessarily ==> Virtue

    Here, get a look at this from across the stretch of ocean to the British Isles ;

    EXTRACT
    Overhauling the Official Secrets Act – the Law Commission’s proposals

    Civil servants who leak files of state secrets could be jailed for up to 14 years. Currently the maximum term is two years, under the Official Secrets Act 1989
    Official secrets legislation to be expanded to cover “information that affects the economic well-being of the United Kingdom in so far as it relates to national security”
    Foreigners who leak classified information overseas that damages British national security could be prosecuted in the UK for the first time
    Dropping the use of the word “enemy” to describe foreign powers which are hostile to the UK to allow prosecutions for leaking of information to terrorist groups
    “Anachronistic” jargon to describe secrets in law like “sketches”, “plans”, “models”, “passwords” and “code words” to be replaced with the more generic “information”
    The Official Secrets Acts 1911, 1920 and 1939 to be replaced with a modernised Espionage Act
    The Official Secrets Act 1989 to be replaced with a data disclosure law amid concerns that it is “archaic” and has failed to keep pace with advances in technology
    Prosecutors no longer to have to prove damage to national security to secure a conviction for disclosure of classified information
    Spies and civil servants to be allowed “to seek authority” to release confidential information
    An offence is committed if the defendant “knew or had reasonable grounds to believe his or her conduct was capable of benefiting a foreign power”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/02/exclusive-spies-civil-servants-leak-secrets-face-14-years-jail/

    • Truthist

      Very noteworthy from above IMHO :

      Official secrets legislation to be expanded to cover “information that affects the economic well-being of the United Kingdom in so far as it relates to national security”

      Foreigners who leak classified information overseas that damages British national security could be prosecuted in the UK for the first time

  36. Truthist

    Ref.
    The house of http://www.henrymakow.com

    MOST PLANS ARE ASSEMBLIES OF WORDS ONLY.
    MANY PLANS ARE A MIX OF WORDS & NUMBERS [ incl. "worded" numbers ]
    SOME PLANS ARE A MIX OF WORDS & ILLUSTRATIONS.
    A LESSOR AMOUNT OF PLANS ARE OF ILLUSTRATIONS & NUMBERS ONLY.

    HERE IS UPDATE ON THE “KILL-RATE” OF WORDS DEDICATED AGAINST PRE-BORN BABIES.
    SO FAR, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL PLAN IF ONE IS A SOCIOPATH.

    EXTRACT

    Every word associated with abortion is loaded.

    To “abort” means to bring something to a premature end, like aborting a mission due to a problem.
    But that neutral-sounding word utterly fails to describe what happens to a child in the womb when it is murdered via violent dismemberment.
    This is a “choice” of the mother, so how dare you object to that ?

    Language is a powerful weapon to the powers-that-be who want to reduce the population.
    That’s why the PTB must own and weaponize the media.
    Who needs armies when you “own” words and the means of their transmission ?

    Such a media cannot let precise language take hold.
    So pro-life people are called “anti-abortion,” portrayed as “intolerables” who oppose “women’s reproductive rights,” as if anyone has a “right to choose” to literally end the life of another (which practically speaking only applies to self-defense against, say, an intruder breaking into one’s home).

    Above all, what the media cannot simply permit is a probe into the concept of “choice,” i.e. allowing a mother to “choose” to have her child killed insider of her.

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/02/the-loaded-language-of-abortion.html#sthash.VbVKibew.dpuf

  37. mike flannelly

    RTE
    WAITING LISTS AND TROLLEY WATCH REALITY ABUSE PROGRAMMES.

    Dear Rte,

    To date we sit at home and watch Rte present their version of Irelands 2017 health crisis.

    Based on the OECD report Ireland have

    12.6 nurses per 1000 population.
    2.8 beds per 1000 population.

    Ireland have 38% more nurses than the OECD average. Ireland have 50% more nurses than the UK who have 8.2 nurses per 1000 population.

    The OECD average is 1.8 nurses per bed.

    Ireland have “4.5″ nurses per bed.

    Ireland have enough nurses for 9000 more beds.

    Why is the Rte narrative with regard to this reality abuse trolley watch programme of hospital congestion that we need lots more nurses and we need to pay them lots more money to help with recruitment ?

    Not asking core questions amounts to fake horror.(a term found on this blog)

    Please help the sick old people being degraded on hospital corridors.

    Please help the people on waiting lists due to congestion.

    https://www.inmo.ie/Article/GetOneArticle/8104-58745/12824

    On 6th jan 2017 it seems that 63 additional beds are
    ” No Can Do “.

    Roisin Shortall tells us that there is 19bn spent on the health system this year for a population of 4.8 million.

    The largest budget in the EU.

    Fergal Hickey tells us that we need 2000 beds.

    My opinion based on fact is,

    The OECD figures tell us that we have have lots of nurses but no beds.

    We have a 19bn budget.

    Please do your job and stop playing politics( in my view).

    Logic and justification will always trump politics.

    Rte need to stick to facts and logic.

    They are fobbed off with public sector self service spin far too easy.

    What are the international comparisions for waiting lists with Germany, France, UK, Spain, Portugal ?

    It certainly is NOT Rte’s narrative of lots more nurses.

    The above are my opinions and frustrations with Rte that continues to ignore facts and international comparisons.

    Politics in my view.

    Sad.

    Mike Flannelly.
    Galway

    We jail old people that dont pay their rte licence.

    No country for old men.

    International waiting list comparisions were omitted.
    France?
    Netherlands?
    Germany?
    Spain?
    UK?
    Belgium?

    Gene Kerrigan does not like Simon Harris holding managers and staff to account.
    Simon Harris must pluck the solutions out of his arse for some people.
    This fake horror culture is part of the problem.

    Journalism is a major part of the problem.

    • Truthist

      Gene Kerrigan is all for “GLBT & Q [ Queer ] so-called rights.
      But, “Gene Kerrigan does not like …” anybody “…holding managers and staff to account.”

      I suspect that Gene Kerrigan has an extremely high salary compared to the typical citizen.

      But, it suits him — & he comes across as very talented & apparently sincere — in challenging the status que.

      And, specifically Re ; Nurse & Hospital Bed issues

      I believe that even the best bench-marks that u could find of the developed & even most developing countries also suffer from their public hospital staff — & also their private hospital staff — “trying it on” at least with “f..king around the patients, & if the relations are paying instead ; them also”.
      U can call it “play-acting” at these stakeholders expense.
      Include also the private health insurance companies ;
      But, it is often the case that they are in cahoots with the hospitals with corruption anyway, & do not really care about tackling what I am stating.
      And, the Irish are the world-beaters by a mile.
      Most of modern medicine practise is a racket.

      MOREOVER, WHAT IS GOING ON BY IRISH STATE’s DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS EVIL

      Here are links that will open really wake u up Mike ;
      Although, u are much more awake than most.

      Eustace Mullins – Murder by Injection (Full Length)

      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/murderinjection.pdf

      Eustace Mullins is the pioneer investigator of the Private Central Banking racket of the Bankster Scam Bundle.
      He is a tremendously entertaining [ dry wit ] educative communicator too.

    • McCawber

      I’ll repeat this again.
      The trolley count is a creation of the nurses.
      They can directly influence this count.
      I’ll leave ye to draw your own conclusions.

  38. Truthist

    MAJOR NEWS !

    “MOWING OF THE LAWN” — PALESTINIAN GAZA & / OR PALESTINIAN WEST-BANK — HAS COMMENCED.

    Surely Hamas is working for Israel ?

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.769915

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/9138976/Israeli-air-strikes-on-Gaza-and-Palestinian-rocket-attacks.html

  39. Another major trading nation abandons the USD dominated SWIFT system. Japan plans bilateral trade arrangement without using the reserve currency.
    Longer term this is the demise of the US dominated trade arrangements and the demise of the strong dollar. The US can expect a falling dollar and increasing inflation and even hyper inflation which is just over the next hill.

    http://www.thedailyeconomist.com/2017/02/long-time-us-vassal-state-japan-to.html

    • McCawber

      Have a look at transferwise.com
      The banks are having a laugh.
      And our EU politicians and the ECB allow them to continue to rob us blind.
      That’s why your reset won’t work it requires people of integrity to be in control.
      Your alternative is the only pragmatic course to follow.

      • That is good for personal cash transfers. Thanks.

        The significance of the Japanese trading decision is to avoid the use of the USD completely. the Bretton Woods agreement posited the agreement that the USD be the reserve currency used for world trade. that is the commodities are priced in USD . This meant the US could produce huge amounts of currency and use it to buy goods for nothing but newly created dollars (PRODUCED FROM THE THIN AIR) with Japan avoiding, with other countries, the use of USD’s it means the demand for USD is falling and the dollars will return to the US for redemption. This will lower the value of the USD and the inflation will be felt within the US. An accelerated return of this currency may well produce hyper inflation and economic misery.

        • michaelcoughlan

          “This will lower the value of the USD”

          Yes however the US military is asset stripping every country on the planet to balance the books. Soon physical cash will disappear and then they will asset strip every citizen they haven’t been able to fuck over already.

          Not sure though if all that will happen any time soon.
          .

          • It has nothing to do with balancing the books. The US military has been used to destroy countries that threatened the avoidance of the US dollar for trade. This is an attempt to allow the US to NOT HAVE TO BALANCE THEIR BOOKS as they continue to try to finance all with the production of the Ponzi scheme paper fiat.

            Attacking defenseless Middle Eastern countries is one thing, Attacking , Russian, china and Japan is something else. Even syria is a problem to destroy for the US, and IRAN THEY CAN THREATEN BUT NOT ATTACK AT THIS POINT EXCEPT WITH INEFFECTIVE SANCTIONS.

            The USD is doomed to be reduced to toilet paper along with all paper money.

          • michaelcoughlan

            “This is an attempt to allow the US to NOT HAVE TO BALANCE THEIR BOOKS”

            Yes Tony correct.

            What I meant to say was that since the US has been spending more than its earning for so long the way they balance the balance sheet is to steal assets from other countries to match the loans (debt) issued to create more currency.

            Therefore so long as they keep getting away with it there won’t be the reset anytime soon. Totally amoral I know. I know also the rest of the world is doing what you point out to wean itself off the dollar.

            Interesting times.

          • Yes Michael. It is theft by the US from the rest of the world, as you correctly say.
            Would that I could sit in my living room with a copy machine and buy anything I want with the certificates so produced!! This is the US.

          • Perhaps the US is getting its own back by pissing into the wind. US paper script is blowing back to where it originated.

      • Using silver coin for Kilkenomics requires nobodies permission but just the will of the promoter and organizer.

        I have it on good authority that Arizona has or will approve the use of specie as money and also that Mexico has it under consideration.

        https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA714CA714&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Arizona+and+specie+money

        • “Besides Arizona, there are four other states that have adopted legal tender laws – Colorado (1893), Missouri (1939), Utah (2011) and Oklahoma (2014). By these dates you can see it’s not necessarily a new idea but one that’s growing in interest in Arizona and other states such as Washington and Texas.”

          http://www.mogollonrimnews.com/az-legislature-looks-to-protect-commerce-conducted-with-legal-tender/

        • McCawber

          What does this indicate.
          For example-
          Do certain states feel that the Fed has too much influence on the local economy.
          Do certain states see what is coming and are trying to prepare for it.
          Are these states just looking after their rich citizens who can afford to keep a cache of gold/silver on hand until needed.

          • If you have to ask such questions then you have no appreciation of the use and meaning of specie as money compared to the use of the debt based, interest bearing script we call money but which is an irredeemable IOU produced from nothing and thus in reality worthless. Yes worth nothing at all.

            The FED owns you lock, stock and barrel. Your mind and inclination too.

          • Not a peep of a comment on the suggestion of using specie as money at Kilkenomics.

            This suggests to me that the war is won, the battles lost and all the debate on this blog is “full of sound and fury signifying nothing” (credits as due to the Bard)

            There is no hope emanating from this quarter.

  40. coldblow

    This is the one I meant to link to above:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E

  41. Truthist

    Mind-controlling, leader-planting, scheming pedophile activity, assassination, …

    It all involves planning :
    “on-the-fly”
    ad hoc
    short-term
    mid-term
    long-term

    And, new leader of Canada — G8 country & country with major Irish immigration over the centuries [ even Quebec is over 40 % Irish ] — Justin Trudeau is mired by one hell of a beaut that his father Pierre Trudeau [ Premier of Canada between 1968 & 1984 ] was.
    It looks like Justin Trudeau is going to further recent Premier Harper’s destruction of Canada.

    Here is Aanirfan.blogspot.com latest article

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-mysterious-trudeaus.html

  42. Truthist

    This post contains most valuable material for DMW to refer to when composing his future articles over the term of Trump & beyond.

    It is presented as an interview ;
    But, I suspect that it really was scripted by the interviewer & his team.

    The interviewee makes many valid points.

    But, there are some glaring sins of commission & sins of omission.
    Example of Sins of Commission ;
    Ref. to Judeo-Christianity ; That term is an oxymoron

    The chief strategist for Trump is Mr. Stephen K. Bannon ;
    Here he outlines the vision element of the Trump Administration’s “Plan”.

    There are major references to the famous Anglo-Irish political philosopher Edmund Burke.

    Worth copying & pasting into word-processing document.

    THE ARTICLE

    UNDER THE BANNER OF BANNON
    What Steve Bannon really wants

    WRITTEN BY

    Gwynn Guilford
    Nikhil Sonnad

    “America First”

    03 February 2017

    What does Donald Trump want for America ?
    His supporters don’t know.
    His party doesn’t know.
    Even he doesn’t know.

    If there is a political vision underlying Trumpism, however, the person to ask is not Trump. It’s his éminence grise, Stephen K. Bannon, the chief strategist of the Trump administration.

    Bannon transcended his working-class Virginia roots with a stint in the Navy and a degree from Harvard Business School, followed by a career as a Goldman Sachs financier. He moved to Los Angeles to invest in media and entertainment for Goldman, before starting his own investment bank specializing in media. Through a combination of luck (a fallen-through deal left him with a stake in a hit show called Seinfeld) and a knack for voicing outrage, Bannon remade himself as a minor luminary within the far edge of right-wing politics, writing and directing a slew of increasingly conservative documentaries.
    Bannon’s influence reached a new high in 2012 when he took over Breitbart News, an online news site, following the death of creator Andrew Breitbart. While at Breitbart, Bannon ran a popular talk radio call-in show and launched a flame-throwing assault on mainstream Republicans, embracing instead a fringe cast of ultra-conservative figures. Among them was Trump, a frequent guest of the show. They established a relationship that eventually led Bannon to mastermind Trump’s populist romp to the White House, culminating in his taking the administration’s most senior position (alongside the chief of staff, Reince Priebus).
    It’s impossible to know for sure what Bannon will do with his newfound power; he honors few interview requests lately, ours included. (The White House did not respond to our request to speak with Bannon.) But his time as a conservative filmmaker and head of Breitbart News reveals a grand theory of what America should be. Using the vast amount of Bannon’s own publicly available words—from his lectures, interviews, films and more—we can construct elements of the vision for America he hopes to realize in the era of Trump.
    The 3 tenets of Bannonism

    Bannon’s political philosophy boils down to three things that a Western country, and America in particular, needs to be successful: Capitalism, nationalism, and “Judeo-Christian values.” These are all deeply related, and essential.
    America, says Bannon, is suffering a “crisis of capitalism.” (He uses the word “crisis” a lot—more on that later.) Capitalism used to be all about moderation, an entrepreneurial American spirit, and respect for one’s fellow Christian man. In fact, in remarks delivered to the Vatican in 2014, Bannon says that this “enlightened capitalism” was the “underlying principle” that allowed the US to escape the “barbarism” of the 20th century.
    Since this enlightened era, things have gradually gotten worse. (Hence the “crisis.”) The downward trend began with the 1960s and ’70s counterculture. “The baby boomers are the most spoiled, most self-centered, most narcissistic generation the country’s ever produced,” says Bannon in a 2011 interview.
    He takes on this issue in more detail in Generation Zero, a 2010 documentary he wrote and directed. The film shows one interviewee after another laying out how the “capitalist system” was slowly undermined and destroyed by a generation of wealthy young kids who had their material needs taken care of by hardworking parents—whose values were shaped by the hardship of the Great Depression and World War II—only to cast off the American values that had created that wealth in the first place. This shift gave rise to socialist policies that encouraged dependency on the government, weakening capitalism.
    Eventually, this socialist vision succeeded in infiltrating the very highest levels of institutional power in America. “By the late 1990s, the left had taken over many of the institutions of power, meaning government, media, and academe,” says Peter Schweizer, a writer affiliated with Bannon’s Government Accountability Institute, a conservative think tank, in Generation Zero. “And it was from these places and positions of power that they were able to disrupt the system and implement a strategy that was designed to ultimately undermine the capitalist system.” (As he says “undermine the capitalist system,” the film zooms in on the word “Lucifer” in that now-infamous epigraph from Saul Alinsky.)
    Underlying all of this is the philosophy of Edmund Burke, an influential 18th-century Irish political thinker whom Bannon occasionally references. In Reflections on the Revolution in France, Burke presents his view that the basis of a successful society should not be abstract notions like human rights, social justice, or equality. Rather, societies work best when traditions that have been shown to work are passed from generation to generation. The baby boomers, Bannon says in a lecture given to the Liberty Restoration Foundation (LRF), failed to live up to that Burkean responsibility by abandoning the tried-and-true values of their parents (nationalism, modesty, patriarchy, religion) in favor of new abstractions (pluralism, sexuality, egalitarianism, secularism).
    For both Burke and Bannon, failure to pass the torch results in social chaos.
    Steve Bannon, appointed chief strategist and senior counselor to President-elect Donald Trump, arrives for the Presidential Inauguration of Trump at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, January 20, 2017.
    Bannon at Trump’s inauguration. (AFP Photo/Pool/Saul Loeb)
    The new liberal order

    Once in power, the liberal, secular, global-minded elite overhauled the institutions of democracy and capitalism to tighten its grip on power and the ability to enrich itself. The “party of Davos,” as Bannon long ago dubbed this clique, has warped capitalism’s institutions, depriving middle classes everywhere of the wealth they deserve.
    This pattern of exploitation came to a head in the 2008 global financial and economic crisis. Wall Street—enabled by fellow global elites in government—spun profits out of speculation instead of investing their wealth in domestic jobs and businesses. When the resulting bubble finally burst, the immoral government stuck hardworking American taxpayers with the bailout bill.
    This is the kind of thing that led Bannon to say in that 2011 LRF lecture that there is “socialism for the very wealthy.” The rest of the country, he says, is “common sense, practical, middle-class people.”
    There is also “socialism for the very poor,” he adds. “We’ve built a welfare state that is completely and totally unsupportable, and now this is a crisis.”
    Bannon wants all of this liberal-sponsored “socialism” to end. He celebrates CNBC host Rick Santelli’s famous 2009 tirade about “those who carry the water and those who drink the water,” which sparked what became the Tea Party, a populist movement focused on tax cuts, fiscal scrimping, and a narrow interpretation of constitutional rights. Channeling the spirit of the Tea Party, Bannon blames Republicans as much as Democrats for taking part in cronyism and corruption at the expense of middle class families.
    “We don’t really believe there is a functional conservative party in this country and we certainly don’t think the Republican Party is that,” says Bannon in a 2013 panel in which he discusses Breitbart’s vision. “We tend to look at this imperial city of Washington, this boomtown, as they have two groups, or two parties, that represent the insiders’ commercial party, and that is a collection of insider deals, insider transactions and a budding aristocracy that has made this the wealthiest city in the country.”
    In short, in Bannonism, the crisis of capitalism has led to socialism and the suffering of the middle class. And it has made it impossible for the current generation to bequeath a better future to its successors, to fulfill its Burkean duty.
    Judeo-Christian values

    So what exactly are these traditions that Americans are meant to pass along to future generations? In addition to “crisis of capitalism,” one of Bannon’s favorite terms is “Judeo-Christian values.” This is the second element of his theory of America.
    Generation Zero, Bannon’s 2010 documentary, has a lot to say about “American values,” and a lot of this matches closely the ideals of the Tea Party. But since 2013 or 2014, Bannon’s casual emphasis on American values has swelled to include a strong religious component. The successful functioning of America—and Western civilization in general—depends on capitalism, and capitalism depends on the presence of “Judeo-Christian values.”
    For Bannon, capitalism was not only responsible for bringing the US out of the war successfully; it also brought about the restoration of Europe and the Pax Americana that followed, he explains in his 2014 speech to the Vatican conference. But capitalism alone is not enough. Unmoored from a Judeo-Christian moral framework, capitalism can be a force of harm and injustice—exemplified by the US’s economic decline.
    To restore the health of America’s economy and patch its shredded social fabric, Bannon wants capitalism to be re-anchored by the Judeo-Christian values he believes made the country great throughout its history. This shared morality ensures that businesses invest not just for their own benefit, but also for the good of native workers and future generations.
    As in Burke’s view, human rights and civil society do not come from anything abstract, but from tradition. For Bannon, this tradition is God; nation-states that establish people as the arbiters of truth and justice will ultimately give way to tyranny. The “ultimate check on the power of the state is God’s teaching,” says Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson in Torchbearer, the 2016 documentary that Bannon co-wrote, directed and produced. The film is full of Robertson offering similar aphorisms about how society falls apart without a religious foundation.
    It’s important to note that “Judeo-Christian values” does not necessarily seem to require that all citizens believe in Christianity. Bannon doesn’t appear to want to undo the separation of church and state or freedom of religion enshrined in America’s constitution. After all, both of these are traditions that have led America to success in the past. What he believes is that the founding fathers built the nation based on a set of values that come from the Judeo-Christian tradition.
    In order to make sure the whole country is on board with these values, it must limit or halt the influx of people who do not share them by rallying around nationalism. And it is through this final ingredient—the primacy of the nation-state’s values and traditions—that America can drive a stake through the heart of the global, secular “establishment.”
    Nationalism

    In addition to enriching themselves and encouraging dependency among the poor, global elites also encourage immigrants to flood the US and drag down wages. Immigrant labor boosts the corporate profits of globalists and their cronies, who leave it to middle-class natives to educate, feed, and care for these foreigners. The atheistic, pluralist social order that has been allowed to flourish recoils at nationalism and patriotism, viewing them as intolerant and bigoted. Without the moral compass of our forefathers, the system is so adrift in relativism that it champions the “rights” of police-hating deadbeats, criminal aliens, and potential terrorists over ordinary Americans, turning cities into hotbeds of violence and undermining national security. As one interviewee declares in Border War: The Battle over Illegal Immigration, another of Bannon’s documentaries, “The right sees [undocumented immigrants] as cheap labor, the left sees this as cheap votes.”
    Bannon, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s campaign chairman, attends Trump’s Hispanic advisory roundtable meeting in New York, Saturday, Aug. 20, 2016.
    The ideologist. (AP/Gerald Herbert)
    Mired in near-zero growth and financial chaos, the European Union epitomizes the catastrophic fate of a globalist system governed by elites who are not accountable to the citizens that elected them.
    “[P]eople, particularly in certain countries, want to see the sovereignty for their country, they want to see nationalism for their country,” Bannon says in the Vatican speech. “They don’t believe in this kind of pan-European Union or they don’t believe in the centralized government in the United States.”
    Nationalism, then, is the mechanism through which Judeo-Christian traditions and values become part of society. That’s because nationalism is fully inclusive, in the sense that it invites people of different backgrounds to unite under a common “American” sense of self. It dissolves minority identities—leading to the emphasis on “colorblindness” of “all lives matter” and opposition to affirmative action. This shared set of Judeo-Christian, nationalist values prevents minorities from claiming special rights. For instance, Generation Zero blames the 2007 housing collapse on “black victimization” that undermined capitalism and encouraged dependency on the government. At the same time, Torchbearer celebrates Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as a paragon of traditional American morality because his view of human rights was based in Christianity.
    The liberal elite’s pervasive emphasis on pluralism and minority rights—and its financial and political support of these groups—constrains shared American-ness. This erosion of Judeo-Christian nationalism weakens the country. Again, this applies not just to America, but also to other Western countries. As Bannon declares at a 2016 South Carolina Tea Party convention, the “swells, the investment bankers, the guys from the EU” are the “same guys who have allowed the complete collapse of the Judeo-Christian West in Europe.”
    People who do not sign off on this set of shared values should not be welcome in the US. This logic forms the basis of Bannon’s opposition to immigrants, whose lack of democratic “DNA,” he believes, will harm society.
    “These are not Jeffersonian democrats,” Bannon said last year, referring to immigrants heading from Muslim majority countries to Europe, USA Today reported. “These are not people with thousands of years of democracy in their DNA coming up here.” That rationale might justify closing the borders to immigrants from Latin America, even though they are usually devout Catholics.
    A theory of generations

    The crisis of capitalism and the undermining of the Judeo-Christian West that Bannon proclaims in his Vatican lecture is not an isolated event. It is, in his view, one of a repeated cycle of crises that occurs periodically, each of which inevitably culminates in war and conflict on a grand scale.
    “This is the fourth great crisis in American history,” he says in the speech to the LRF. “We had the revolution, we had the Civil War, we had the Great Depression and World War II. This is the great Fourth Turning in American history.”
    What he is getting at here is based on the work of Neil Howe and William Strauss, two amateur historians who in the 1990s presented a “generational theory” of American history. The theory views American history through the lens of repeated cycles lasting roughly 80 years, about the length of a single lifetime. Within each 80-year cycle, say Howe and Strauss, are four “turnings”—periods of around 20 years that are characterized by a particular mood. These four moods are the “high,” “awakening,” “unraveling,” and, finally, “crisis.”
    The theory is too vague to be proven wrong, and has not been taken seriously by most professional historians. But it is superficially compelling, and plots out to some degree how America’s history has unfolded since its founding.
    It’s also clear how the generational theory fits with Bannon’s view that the slow erosion of Judeo-Christian values has been bad for the country. The most recent cycle, according to Howe and Strauss, went from the “high” of the postwar era—a time of which Bannon is particularly fond—to an “awakening” of activism in the ’60s, followed by an “unraveling” of institutions and shared values thanks to the individualism brought on by the preceding “awakening.” That brings us to the current crisis, the great “Fourth Turning,” following the American Revolution, Civil War, and the Great Depression/World War II.
    How to solve the crisis: Large-scale conflict

    “Turnings” feature very heavily in Generation Zero. “Turnings are like the seasons—every turning is necessary,” says historian David Kaiser in the documentary, over stock footage of clocks ticking, suns rising, and butterflies emerging. “Cities are founded, cities collapse. States rise, states fall,” he continues.
    What exactly is the current crisis? Bannon’s view on it has evolved. In 2010, he appears to have regarded it as the result of the debt racked up in the 2000s and the 2008 financial crisis.
    “This accumulated debt at all levels of our society poses an immediate existential threat to America,” he says in a 2010 speech in New York City. “Now unlike the manufactured crises of global warming and healthcare, this is a true crisis. This crisis threatens the very sovereignty of our country.”
    And in the 2011 LRF lecture, when Bannon declares the US faces the “fourth great crisis in American history,” he still seems to suggest that it consists largely of the global financial crisis that began in 2008.
    But there’s more to it than that. Comparing the current crisis to events like the Revolutionary War and World War II, Bannon appears to believe that the US is heading inevitably toward violent conflict. This interpretation is backed up by other statements from and about Bannon.
    David Kaiser, the historian interviewed in Generation Zero and also a proponent of the Strauss-Howe theory, recently recounted his conversation with Bannon, including Bannon’s militaristic interpretation of the theory, in Time:
    A second, more alarming interaction didn’t show up in the film. Bannon had clearly thought a long time both about the domestic potential and the foreign policy implications of Strauss and Howe. More than once during our interview, he pointed out that each of the three preceding crises had involved a great war, and those conflicts had increased in scope from the American Revolution through the Civil War to the Second World War. He expected a new and even bigger war as part of the current crisis, and he did not seem at all fazed by the prospect.
    Let’s follow the logic of this generational theory for a second: If a “high” only comes after a “crisis,” and if a “crisis” must necessarily be an increasingly large-scale war, Bannon is left searching for a major, existence-level enemy. Does the “Party of Davos” alone qualify? Who else could this war be fought against?
    In the 2014 Vatican lecture, Bannon goes further. “I think we are in a crisis of the underpinnings of capitalism, and on top of that we’re now, I believe, at the beginning stages of a global war against Islamic fascism,” he says. Bannon adds:
    “This may be a little more militant than others…I believe you should take a very, very, very aggressive stance against radical Islam…. See what’s happening, and you will see we’re in a war of immense proportions.”
    Bannon’s “global war against Islamic fascism”

    The fourth great civilizational showdown—a “global existential war,” as Bannon describes it in July 2016—pits the “Judeo-Christian West” against “Islamic fascism”—especially ISIL. But the threat isn’t necessarily limited to ISIL.
    Bannon’s remarks and his affiliations with anti-Muslim activists like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer leave the impression that the enemy might well be Islam in general. As Breitbart notes in 2014, the “erudite Bannon” entertains the argument that Islam’s “war” against Christianity “originated almost from [Islam’s] inception.” He endorses the view that, in the lead-up to World War II, Islam was a “much darker” force facing Europe than fascism. Other ideas he has supported include: a US nonprofit focused on promoting a favorable image of Muslims is a terrorist front; the Islamic Society of Boston mosque was behind the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing; and Muslim-Americans are trying to supplant the US constitution with Shariah law.
    Because Islam is rooted in anti-Christian violence, goes the logic, the only way to ensure that Muslims in America don’t pose a terrorist threat is to make sure they honor the US constitution as the rule of law and accept Judeo-Christian values.
    “Darkness, Darth Vader, and Dick Cheney”

    There are a few loose ends in Bannon’s thinking—comments that seem consequential, but are vague or don’t fit clearly into any bigger vision.
    Consider, for example, his statement that “darkness is good,” which he told Michael Wolff of Hollywood Reporter. “Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power,” he continued. Or the statement, reported by the Daily Beast, that Bannon views himself as a “Leninist” who wants to “bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
    The constant repetition of the phrase “Judeo-Christian values” should convince us that Bannon does not worship Satan. “Darkness is good” appears to suggest that the perception of being dark is good. The quote continues, “It only helps us when [liberals and the media] get it wrong. When they’re blind to who we are and what we’re doing.” Thus if the perception of him as a Darth Vader-like figure makes it easier for him to create his enlightened capitalist utopia, so be it.
    As for the Leninist remark, it seems pretty consistent with what we know of Bannon thus far: The conservative Burke himself thought that throwing out leaders was justified when “necessary” to restore the old values.
    Then again, this delight in being a “dark” oppositional force pairs nicely with his ferocious hatred of the “establishment.” In particular, Bannon’s diatribes against the media brim with spite toward journalists’ arrogance, superiority, and naivety.
    On Breitbart radio in early November, he praised the “insight and savvy” of its callers and website commenters, while ranting about a “smug, smirking” New York Times reporter who suggested that Trump rally attendees in Mississippi didn’t know who Nigel Farage, a right-wing populist leader in the UK, was. “120% of the people” at the rally knew of Farage, who is “kind of a cult hero in this global populist movement,” said Bannon. More recently, he told the New York Times (paywall) that the media “should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while.” He added: “I want you to quote this. The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”
    Some of his hatred of the elite seems rooted in his experiences living and working among the elite. He frequently references his Harvard and Goldman Sachs pedigrees. However, when he describes his time as an elite, it’s as an “outsider”—a term he used in the early days to describe the populist movement he represented—passing among the privileged and deciphering their nefariousness for ordinary middle-class Americans. For example, in his 2014 Vatican speech, he says:
    I could see this when I worked at Goldman Sachs — there are people in New York that feel closer to people in London and in Berlin than they do to people in Kansas and in Colorado, and they have more of this elite mentality that they’re going to dictate to everybody how the world’s going to be run. I will tell you that the working men and women of Europe and Asia and the United States and Latin America don’t believe that. They believe they know what’s best for how they will comport their lives.
    But this cosmic avenger role Bannon seems to claim as voice-giver to the “forgotten” middle-classes hints at a deeper relish of conflict. A fascination with warfare and violence emerges in, for instance, his frequent allusion to the glory of the amphibious invasion at Normandy, or his taking the time out of his duties as Breitbart’s CEO to pen an obituary for Vo Nguyen Giap, a Vietnamese general who led a war for independence that Bannon described as “one of the bloodiest and hardest fought by all combatants.” In particular, the aesthetic of his documentaries can be nauseatingly violent. Torchbearer is a tour de force of gore. (There are at least six separate shots of falling guillotines, as well as lingering footage of nuclear radiation victims, mass burials from Nazi gas chambers, and various ISIL atrocities.)
    What all this means for the Trump presidency

    Even before he took charge of Trump’s campaign, in Aug. 2016, Bannon’s philosophies pervaded its rhetoric. If there was any question about the role his views would play in the Trump administration, the last two weeks have made it clear: The president’s leadership hangs from the scaffolding of Bannon’s worldview.
    Trump’s inaugural address was basically a telepromptered Bannon rant. Where inaugural speeches typically crackle with forward-looking optimism, Trump’s was freighted with anti-elite resentment. He described a Bannonistic vision in which the “wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world.” The “forgotten men and women of our country”—a meme that Trump claimed, but that appears in Generation Zero—had a cameo too.
    White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon listens at right as President Donald Trump speaks during a meeting on cyber security in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2017.
    Commander-in-chief and Chief Strategist. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
    Trump heaped blame on the “establishment,” which “protected itself” but not American citizens from financial ruin. “And while they celebrated in our nation’s capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land,” Trump continued. “We’ve made other countries rich, while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon.”
    “America first” is Bannon’s economic nationalism in slogan form. Trump’s vow to “unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate from the face of the Earth” was a mellowed-out version of the West’s battle against “Islamic fascists.”
    There’s more. Trump’s remarks that the “Bible tells us how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity,” that “most importantly, we will be protected by God,” and that children from both Detroit and Nebraska are “infused with the breath of life by the same almighty creator” seemed kind of bizarre coming from a not-very-religious man. They don’t, however, in the context of Bannon’s insistence in Torchbearer that a society without God disintegrates.
    Within days of the inauguration came the dizzying spurt of executive actions—written by Bannon and Stephen Miller, a White House policy advisor—many of which contained “press release-friendly ‘purpose’ sections making extravagant claims not usually found in executive orders,” says Andrew Rudalevige, government professor at Bowdoin College.
    Bannon’s philosophy toward Islam seems likely to have influenced the order, “Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States.” Recalling that line about how immigrants are not “Jeffersonian democrats,” the document prescribes ensuring the allegiance to America’s “founding principles” and the US constitution of anyone admitted to the country, including tourists. Trump also implied in a TV interview with the Christian Broadcast Network that he wanted to prioritize Christians refugees over Muslims, accusing the US government of favoring Muslim refugees over Christians in the past (a claim for which there’s no evidence). Some argue (fairly convincingly) that Trump’s ban risks lending credence to ISIL recruitment propaganda claiming that the US is leading the West in a war on all of Islam.
    Another of the new administration’s focuses—the danger posed by Mexicans flooding over the border—is also a central theme of Bannon’s vision of America under seige. Trump’s executive action declares that “many” unauthorized immigrants “present a significant threat to national security and public safety,” though criminology and immigration experts say most evidence suggests immigrants in general commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born citizens. “Sanctuary” cities—those that voluntarily cooperate with immigration enforcement only on deporting unauthorized immigrants convicted of violent or serious crimes—are also critiqued in Bannonist terms: They have “caused immeasurable harm to the American people and to the very fabric of our Republic.” In other words, they do not share America’s values.
    Finally, Trump’s withdrawal of the US from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a multilateral trade deal supported by what would count as the “elite,” includes a special shout-out to “the American worker,” the classic Bannon theme.
    Bannonism begins?

    Bannon savors the power of symbolism. That symbolic power infused Trump’s campaign, and now, apparently, his administration’s rhetoric. After all, as Andrew Breitbart made clear when he famously dubbed him the “Leni Riefenstahl of the Tea Party,” Bannon is a master propagandist. He’s also a master opportunist, going by his fitful shifts in career. So it’s possible that the narrative flowing through Trump’s inaugural address and executive actions is simply what Bannon has calibrated over time to rouse maximum populist fervor—and that it doesn’t reflect plans to upend America.
    There’s also, however, the possibility that Bannon is steering Trump toward the “enlightened capitalist,” Judeo-Christian, nationalistic vision that he has come to believe America needs.
    Which it is, we can’t know, of course: Only Bannon knows what Bannon really wants. What we do know for sure, though, is that a man who has staked out a deep desire for a violent resurgence of “Western civilization” now has the power to fulfill it.

    https://qz.com/898134/what-steve-bannon-really-wants/

  43. McCawber

    “Global Warming or Climate Change is a scam”
    It is very difficult to prove whether that statement is true or false.
    If it’s true it’s very difficult to ascertain what is causing it.
    Is is human activity or is it simply because of where the earth is orbitally around the sun, it’s current degree of axial tilt and its proximity to a pole swop. And that’s just three of the possible influences, there may be more.
    Yeah, I know, it’s a simple problem isn’t it.
    However it’s a fact that man has reached a point in his evolution that he can, in fact, manipulate his own global environment.
    Man being man with that capability will act accordingly but has the power to direct that capacity.
    Therefore it seems sensible to adopt prudent strategies to mitigate the damage that climate change can cause.
    One of the obvious areas to look at are energy sources.
    That’s where the scans start.
    Climate change may not be a scam but some of the things done in its name are.
    The first place to ask questions is in the regulators office.
    As we have seen with the vulture funds, legislation and regulation can be easily circumvented by people who are much more business savvy than our regulators.
    Governments and Regulators are always introducting new initiatives and changes in regulations.
    This is manna from heaven for some.
    Pity the poor tax payer and consumer.

  44. michaelcoughlan

    @Truthist and Grzegorz.

    Hi,

    Just a gentle observation;

    Ye spend waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on the blog. Ye must have no jobs.

    Life is for living guys. In golf they say you gotta take time to smell the flowers.

    Warm regards,

    Michael.

    • Truthist

      It’s a war Michael.

      And, when the likes of us are around town, folks come up to us pleading for action.

      Some of the most crucial rights that the underclass have are because of my actions ONLY ;
      Not boasting mind u.

      Did u dig into the links I recently gave of Coveney the Younger [ Son of Hugh ] & his connection with Suds & Bilderbergs ?

    • McCawber

      The blog is mightier than the pen.
      ????

    • Grzegorz Kolodziej

      My job involves poring over various documents usually involving terminology or data that could very easy drive me mad due to the sheer volume of it, and the off-on nature; and occasionally court room/crime scene appearance. Paradoxically it is when I most busy that I post the most, because I can then hit two birds with one stone – distract my mind from the above, and do a quick typing exercise typing things that interest me. You have to bear in mind that sometimes I do working sprees that involve not sleeping, and I need to stay awake – this blog is a good tool to stay awake.

      As my typing speed is around 60 wpm, my comments do not take me as much time as it looks on its face value. I provide most of my examples from my head, except for some links and availing of databases on my computer. Occasionally I get irritated when someone asks me to repeat something I have already explained, because then I have to find it – and this is really distracting (I try not to spend more time on this blog than 20-30 min each time, usually 10-15).

      The tighter deadline I have for submitting my documents, the more intense my concentration is – the more I need to intersperse it with something different.

      This has an advantage of getting less distracted than if I had gone for a walk instead. The disadvantage is my worsening health because I do not go for a walk instead. So

      while saying “Life is for living guys. In golf they say you gotta take time to smell the flowers.” -

      YOU ARE RIGHT, MICHAEL :-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I suppose the key to the frequency of my commenting is that our landlord does not allow cats ;-) – if I could, maybe I’d be playing with a cat instead.

      Warm regards

      Grzegorz

  45. Pie Squared

    Hear, hear David! Excellent article. Focusing on the real issues…Hope you get to unpack your last paragraph re the political system. Needs an overhaul and serious incentives to ensure politicians meet Ireland’s objectives not just parish objectives. Also serious incentives needed for vastly improved urban planning in Dublin and major, major, investment/incentives to locate/live outside Dublin and beyond the Pale. We need ambitious growth and prosperity targets across the island. Time to leave the Famine years behind us once and for all.

  46. Grzegorz Kolodziej

    I do not know how many readers cook for themselves, but this is worrying:

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/common-method-of-cooking-rice-can-leave-traces-of-arsenic-in-food-queens-university-belfast-scientist-warns-35434905.html

    Of course, it might be a total bullshit. But then again…

    • Truthist

      Death by Irish State “Civil SERPENTITIS” is a more real + present danger.

      Just on Rice ;
      Chemicals sprayed onto growing rice chiefly for to combat :
      mould
      insects.
      Fertilizer is heavily used to aid rice’s growth.

      The following info. will be of enormous benefit to ur home country ; Poland.
      Likely that the devil being in the details herein is too daunting a challenge for dullards of Ireland that wish only to chorus superficial stuff ;
      It requires a substantial amount of reading for to get good handle.
      And, that is only of the free content.
      The total information is available only from the book — hardcopy or e-book — for which there is a price charged by the author.

      http://www.curetoothdecay.com

      John Allen recently made the claim that that Vision versus is the most important criterium versus others of plan.
      The justified unabridged pasting of Trump’s Chief Stategist — Steve Bannon — vision, above, is the most important insight into Trump administration ;
      It places heavy emphasis on political insight of famous Anglo-Irish political philosopher Edmund Burke.

      By the way Grzegorz, u highlight Pence as only significant Irish-American of Trump’s team ;
      Bannon is very much Irish surname.
      This is the man an honorable 8-) Irish State Civil Service + honorable 8-) Irish State elected government should get on our side ;
      More so than Pence ;
      Bannon being the official brains of Trump team.

      Again, the devil being in the detail, I was not dilatory to note that u have close contact with the chief strategist of Trump’s administration ;
      Bannon

      Further to ur interest in Polish community of Ireland ;
      I recall the Janacek — maybe wrongly spelt — sisters hailing from Cork who were a folk singing & ? guitar playing duo competing in highly rated Opportunity Knocks British TV show in 1970′s ; I think late 1970′s or maybe early 1980′s ;
      Their father being Polish man ;
      I think that he was refugee.
      Passionately Polish ;
      But, I detect, that is “yer” weakness ;
      Yee can be relied to respond unfailingly to prods on that button with actually indifferent or indeed anti-Poland / anti-Polish motives held by yer manipulators.
      I think that there was some fall from apartment balcony in Spain tragedy to 1 of these girls ;
      But, I may be wrong ;
      Apologies for being fruitless in finding information on internet about Janacek Sisters as music group.
      I think TV antennae installer or otherwise height work specialist.
      Also, Alex Ludzic is famous goalkeeper within League of Ireland ;
      From London of Polish parentage I recall.

      Scholarly Yours,

      Truthist

      • Truthist

        Lead for u for very probably Polish refugee living in Ireland for decades ; Janacek

        Ref.
        After all, she can herself quote the Janacek sisters as schoolmates.

        http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/woman-of-la-mancha-1.1147210

        Re ; Alex Ludzic ; Very good goalkeeper by the way

        http://foot.ie/threads/5356-OBITUARY-The-late-Alex-Ludzic

      • Truthist

        More from Aanirfan’s slant on things ;
        What to make of Orban now ?

        http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/02/mysterious-hungary-trump-orban.html

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          Very inaccurate article by Aanirfan.

          First of all, Prime Minister Orban is not involved in Jobbik. Secondly, Jobbik is – since 2008 – a party which is created, aided and financed by Russia.

          Two two Jobbik MPs, Márton Gyöngyösi and Adrienn Szaniszló, were even invited to Donbass by Russian separatists as “observers” – one of them, Béla Kovács, has suggested that Hungary should join the Eurasian Union. Jobbik party leader Gábor Vona goes to Moscow more often than to any other foreign capital.

          As to Jobbik’s deputy leader synagogue attendance, this only corroborates what I wrote. Bear in mind that Russia and Israel are, since 2014, in that alliance whereby Israel will chase those who question the Red Army’s “liberating” role, while Russia will propagate the Holocaust’s Jewish exclusivity.

          Gazprom sponsors the Israeli Levant LNG Marketing Corp, which in turn sponsors the illegal Israeli settlement. Also, the most radical zionist party in Israel – Yisrael Beitenu – is populated mainly by Russian Jews (they even debate in Russian).

          Did you ever think WHY Prime Minister Orban keeps Jobbik rather than dig into their sources of financing? He needs them as

          a) bugaboo for the West not to do a Gadaffi on him, because then the petrifying Jobbik may replace him
          b) restraint somewhat the World Jewish Congress in their extortionate demands (notice how they spared Hungary so far!) by having the synagogue-going Jobbikers as voting allies.

          Last but not least:

          http://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-jews-fleeing-western-europe-should-move-to-russia/

          Btw, Jobbik is friends with Alexander Dugin.

          Aanirfan has lots to learn it comes to information research – her blog reminds of me a child who discovers that eggs are from the supermarket and takes that and is satisfied with that answer. Henry Makow and Miles Mathis blogs are way more credible.

          • Truthist

            That is a very convoluted but none the less plausible scenario u outline about Orban & Russia & Israel etc.
            I recommend u to submit articles on Orban & Poland & Putin + Dugin to Henry Makow ;
            Henry Makow is still “iffy” about Putin.
            Very much because of :
            Poland elected government murdered in airplane “downing” whilst flying in Russia
            Putin’s freemasonry handshakes
            Putin’s close relationship with Chabad movement
            Putin as possible decoy withing the aul Thesis-Antithesis mularkey.
            But, he does celebrate the good things he does & says.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        I wonder if you or any reader knows that there was a Polish influence on Irish traditional music from Donegal: the so called Donegal Mazurkas (which is older than the Irish dance!).

        The mazurka (in Polish mazurek, plural mazurki- a word derived from “mazur,” which up to the nineteenth century denoted an inhabitant of Poland’s Mazovia region) is a Polish folk dance in triple meter, usually at a lively tempo, and with strong accents unsystematically placed on the second or third beat. The folk origins of the mazurek are two other Polish musical forms which are the slow kujawiak, and the fast oberek. Interestingly, the Polish national anthem has a slow mazurek rhythm.

        Mazurkas were transplanted into the Irish soil in 1840, after the arrival of the Polish refugees from Dabrowski Legions into the Donegal region (these were several Polish military units that served with the French Army formed after their emigration to Italy; France’s enemies included Poland’s partitioners, Prussia, Austria and Imperial Russia, so they decided to fight for France hoping that Napoleon would restore the Kingdom of Poland in return – he did not (he introduced mass conscription and contributions instead in the Duchy of Warsaw – sadly, yet again the Poles turned out to be naive: the Legions maxim was: “For freedom our and your” – but as in 1939, and in the 1946 rigged communist election, no one wanted to fight for our freedom).

        Irish mazurkas have accents placed on the second beat. There was a book written in 2008 on that by Caoimhin Mac Aoidh: “From Mazovia to Meenbanad: The Donegal Mazurkas”.

        This is a Donegal Mazurka, with dance elements taken from the Polish Mazurka dance:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeGp8WImb_w

        If you did not know that, I bet this would go straight into your “Poland” bookmark :-) :-) :-) !

        This is the most moving of Chopin’s mazurkas (Chopin’s Mazurkas became melancholic after the November Uprising, a failed Polish rebellion against the occupying Russia):

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmLvpJySb50&fmt=18

        • coldblow

          I used to play one or two of Chopin’s mazurkas on the piano when I was a boy, very badly in fact.

          A popular reel set from Clare, now danced everywhere, is called the Mazurka (or Mazzerks) and contains a lot of swinging and fiddly arm movements, the kind of thing the ladies like. The sets apparently come from the quadrilles which were brought over to Ireland (by the Army I think) from France in the Napoleonic period. From what you say I imagine this is when the Mazurka arrived too. And the Lancers.

          • Grzegorz Kolodziej

            Mazurkas arrived in Ireland a little bit later than Quadrilla, in 1840. But the Mazurka influence on Irish traditional music in Donegal is more, as it were, pure, because it’s been preserved in a more unmodified form.

            It’s interesting that you say that there Mazurkas in traditional Irish music in Clare – I wonder if that came from Donegal, or was there some group of Dabrowski Legions refugees that came to Clare in 1840s.

            Quadrille started in France in late 18th century, and it evolved from cotillion, whereas Lancers did appear until late 19th century. Quadrille reached England in 1816, and from there it reached Ireland through travelling dancing masters. As places for competitions were small, there was little room for the Dance Masters to perform: they had to dance on tabletops. Because of this, the Irish dancing styles were very contained.

            Irish dancing as we know it is really a 20th century Dev’ era invention. It’s actually interesting that Ireland, being – apart from the former Yugoslavia – a country in Europe with the strongest folk music traditions, that its folk dancing would basically be a modified aristocratic dancing.

            Coming back to Polish influence on the Irish traditional music, more information can be found in: Cooper, P. (1995). Mel Bay’s Complete Irish Fiddle Player. Mel Bay Publications, Inc.: Pacific, p. 76-80.

            RTE Radio 1 had a programme on it on Sunday 12 April, 2009, where Mac Aoidh tracked down 32 different mazurkas as played in Ireland!

            Mazurkas has also been imported to Belgium “balfolk” dancing, in Swedis folk music they are known as the “eight-note polska”, and they are a traditional folk dance music in Philippines. In the US they were found in the very earliest cajun music, where for some reason they were called “mazuka”. They were popular in the 30s folk music of North California (i.e. in the California Gold: Northern California Folk Music from the Thirties Collection).

            In Poland, traditionally Leaving Cert farewell ballroom parties start from performing Polonaise and Mazurkas – so I had to learn them to! Here is an example:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC0JTtN_7YM

            I have to say though that out of all classical music, for me the most beautiful Mazurka (apart of course from Chopin’s heartbreaking Mazurka Op.17 No.4 – one of the most moving pieces of music ever – which I linked to above as performed by Vladimir Horowitz) was composed by Claude Debussy:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsBAXxG-4Jw

            I love how Debussy saturated it with its style.

      • Grzegorz Kolodziej

        “Alex Ludzic is famous goalkeeper within League of Ireland”

        I did not know!

        Do you like the Warsaw GAA club, founded by Irish immigrants to Poland?

        https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/poland/our-role/irish-community/cumann-warszawa-gaa/

        • Truthist

          I am not a fan of “Gaaah” Football ;
          I consider it a monkey of a game.
          Although, I have been a great admirer of certain teams & individuals who tried to bring artistry into it.
          Some of Kerry’s team of 1970′s
          Cork team of 1970′s
          Dublin team of 1970′s
          The army man who played for Rosscommon
          inter alia

          Hurling is a great game ;
          But, the GAA got their ass whipped by Shinty selection from Scotland.

          Handball, is a great game too.

          But, “HERE IS THE RUB” ; DMW parlance 8-)

          I know that the GAA is really ;
          the Garda Athletic Association.

          Or, if u prefer ;
          The Garda-Landlords / Landlord-Gardai Athletic Association.

          So, I have policy now of boycotting them.
          And, increasingly more of my friends & acquaintances, & bare interlocutors.

          Of course, Soccer is the beautiful game.
          The GAA have been very cruel to Irish who wanted to play soccer.

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