June 6, 2016

How should The Enda greet The Donald?

Posted in Sunday Business Post · 80 comments ·

What is Official Ireland going to do when The Donald arrives? Having gone out on a limb by advising Americans to vote for Hillary, the Taoiseach faces a choice: should he shower with garlands yesterday’s man, Joe Biden, or embrace the potential man of tomorrow, Donald Trump?

In the same way as the possibility of Brexit has coaxed out the highly predictable and not very persuasive brain farts of Official Ireland about the grave dangers that democracy in Britain poses to Ireland, the possibility of a President Trump has sent the whole political/media establishment into apoplexy.

Sure we’d all prefer the world to stay as it is, but that’s not the way life works. You cannot preserve the status quo indefinitely. Human history is the history of change. It is the story of the unexpected – and the people who tend to do best, are those who adapt to change best. This flexibility applies to individuals as much as groups or nations.

There is little point in trying to prevent the new based on the fears of the old. Innovation, dislocation and change are a constant. The only thing we can say for sure is that things never stay the same. And the people who try to hold onto yesterday’s certainty rather than tomorrow’s opportunity, whether that is in economics, politics or business, are the ones who get left behind.

Humans are constantly trying to see patterns where there are sometimes none, and we try to make links between events where there may be no correlations, maybe because this is the only way of dealing with the constant flux all around us.

For example, my mother prays to St Anthony when she loses her car keys. The loss of the car keys signals a quick prayer and a frantic search around the house. This ritual happens on a daily basis. Eventually, the keys will turn up, beside the dog’s food, behind the telly or in the door of the car. My mother will then conclude that the prayer to St Anthony did the trick.

There is obviously no connection between the prayer and the keys being found, but it is the human search for patterns. The Church is/was trading on something deep inside us. We don’t like the unexpected and yet the unexpected is what determines our lives.

Trump is the unexpected. To use business terminology, Trump is the classic disruptive moment. He is the car and current politics is the blacksmith.

When the first petrol-powered jalopy appeared in 1890, did anyone realise it spelled the end of the blacksmith? The blacksmith was such a dominant feature of our lives and the trade gave its name to the most common surnames in English, German, the Slavic languages, Spanish and French. Smith, Schmidt, Kovac, Herero and Le Fevre all come from the most constant trade in the world. Then, in the early 20th century, the old order was disrupted by the arrival of the car. Subsequently, everything changed. No more Smiths!

Trump is a similar development. Political boffins will tell us that he is doing everything wrong – but he is winning. He is the one with momentum. He is the one who understands two things: he appreciates that elections are show business, and he grasps that the American electorate are sick of the political class.

Across the board, his message is simple. He speaks the language of the common people, he feels their fears because he listens to them, and he is prepared to give the people an alternative. It may be an incoherent, nasty alternative. It is most certainly not the alternative most editorial writers are scribbling about, but it is a view of the world that many millions of people subscribe to.

Economically, my sense is that it is all based in rising inequality. I appreciate that the notion of a billionaire taking the side of the working poor is bonkers, but that is his genius. Like all good scriptwriters, he has created a dark but human character and he has written himself into this drama as this bizarre creature – half man, half slogan. Because he is almost an outlandishly theatrical caricature, his menace is muted by parody. But it is real.

On the issue of inequality, the lot of the average American has been falling back for the past four decades. Every few years, the US economy recovers and experiences a mini-bubble – and the little guy, buoyed by easy credit, thinks he is doing well. But each time there is a recession, the working man and his wages suffer. In the slump, unemployment rises and wages are cut, so the average guy starts the next cycle worse off than he was at the start of the previous one.

This has been the pattern of the recent economic cycles.

Meantime, the gains have gone disproportionately to the rich guys and in particular, the very rich.

As the gap widens, the middle ground, made up of a lot of working parents, realise that the system is rigged against them. They also find themselves in competition with migrants in the jobs market. They are also in competition with migrants in the housing market, in the schools their kids attend, and in the hospitals they go to when they are sick or when their parents are infirm.

Responding to economic downturns with austerity and cuts in public services exacerbates competition as we head towards the bottom of society. In contrast, because in a downturn assets are sold off cheaply to those at the top, competition for wealth actually diminishes at the top in a recession. So free competition in already unequal societies actually has the effect of amplifying competition at the bottom, and tapers it at the top. You couldn’t make this up.

This development hasn’t been identified by the Democratic Party because under the Clintons and Obama, the Democratic Party has ceased to be the party of the working man and has become the party of the cossetted, well- intentioned educated class.

These people see no conflict between cosying up to Wall Street while hectoring people about calorie intake as they marvel at the variety of exotic food immigrants bring to corner delis! This is not a recipe for electoral success. It’s a recipe for irrelevance.

Trump speaks the language of the middle because he has figured out what the issues are. This is crucial. He is a buffoon, possibly racist and definitely obnoxious, but he is winning. The old order is exposed and has nothing left to fight with.

A Jewish friend was asked to describe Trump the other day and he responded: “Imagine if Adolf Hitler liked Jews – well, that’s Trump.”

Now that’s chilling.

    • I imagine Enda will do as many FG, FF, Labour or Green politician would do in that situation, start thinking about how they can personally gain from the situation including the possibility of Brown Envelopes. Career politicians are out for themselves and feck the workers.

      • Many independent politicians would be no better.
        Elections have nothing to with democracy any more, elections bring new faces to distract from the evil of those unelected who dictate the inequality in society.

  1. Trump is not racist and he’s not half as big a buffoon as Enda ‘Air Guitar’ Kenny.

    • SMOKEY

      Couldnt have said it better, and certainly not more concise. +1

    • Deco

      Trump has been ridiculed, because the working people are “supposed” to vote for parties that shaft them, and he has broken that cosy arrangement.

      • I can see no difference between Trump and Hillary, their speaches are meaningless, like all politicans they tell big fat black lies to gather votes and get elected as the chosen windbag, then they scrap their promises and get on with sucking blood out of the workers, they get a portion of the blood but the lions share is passed on to the wealthier scum who channeled tax payers money into the dishonest electoral campaigns. Same happened here with electoral promises to abolish water charges, the independens done the a disgraceful turnabout, shame on those liars.

  2. michaelcoughlan

    The article is brilliant. It reads very easily because it is clear the author has a thorough understanding of his subject. It remains to be seen what Trump will really do if he gets power.

    As for Mrs Edna maybe he could take a few tips from the dolly bird in the video;


  3. McCawber

    My advice to Enda – If you have nothing good to say about a potential future President of America than keep your trap shut.
    My advice to Trump – Give Enda a dunces hat.

  4. McCawber


    A old American saying has it that – When you’re too busy fighting alligators it’s very easy to forget that you’re there to drain the swamp.

    Trump has momentum while Hillary is too busy fighting Alligators.

    • Mike Marketing

      I accept David that The Donald has won the battle of the GOP Primary………………. but will he win the War?

      I don’t think so.

      In this November ballot it is the choice of the lesser of two evils. A horrid position I am sure with, sadly, large numbers likely to abstain.
      Never a good thing for democracy.

      Things are now coming out of the woodwork about Mr. Trump. They are most unpleasant crawling things.
      In the area of the courts there are lots of stuff happening on both sides. Trump, for example is currently being sued by former customers (students) in what he called “Trump University”. It lines up alongside a number of his businesses that failed.
      To avoid low quality education standards, the US Department of Education and State law strictly regulate the use of that word “University”.
      He has already had to settle in April 2015 a previous lawsuit from a college kid Tarla Makaeff for $798,000 in legal fees. http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/04/20/798-000-award-against-trump-university.htm. This may set a precedent.

      Not many people are aware that he has been or is involved in a total of 3,500 lawsuits.

      And in the political world
      Already, key republicans who recently signed-up to supporting Mr. Trump’s bid are now having to intervene after every press conference that Mr. Trump gives, to disassociate themselves from the latest outlandish statement, yet, retaining the original support given. It can’t last.

      It would appear that Mr. Trump is garroting himself slowly. Political death by 1,000 cuts.

      However, when all is said and done, if the yanks want a huckster for a President then the Donald is the ideal choice.

      So, for the US electorate there is a lot to ponder on over the next six months, before voting.

      As for advising Dame Edna I would simply say “Dún do bhéal”.

      • SMOKEY

        President Trump. Deal with it. She hasnt a snowballs chance.

        • Mike Marketing

          I think that Smokey old boy you’re “Hopping the ball”. And it won’t work.

          In reading US public social media commentary over the past 3 days I notice a big change. First, there are much fewer support pieces for Mr. Trump.

          Also, there are some classic and concise comment on the tide turning against The Donald.

          The following gives a flavour – from “Billy – up in the woods down by the river.
          This is like watching King Kong on top of the Empire State building taking the inevitable flak with no defensible position imaginable.
          You know how far he will fall and how ugly it will be.”

          And from Alfred Sills in California – “Donald Trump may be positioning himself to drop out as the Republican nominee because “everybody is being unfair to me.”
          He’s way over his head and like the dog who finally catches the car he was blithely chasing, is thinking “OK now what do I do?”
          Donald has caught the car. He has to hold on and be crushed or bail out while he can.”

          I am sure that ’40 years a TD’ Dame Edna can give him some expert tips when he visits.

    • Deco

      I suspect that Hillary is busy feeding the alligators. Just look at the alligators in the Middle East who benefited from her interventions there.

  5. Pat Flannery

    You really have lost it this time David!

    “Imagine if Adolf Hitler liked Jews – well, that’s Trump.” In other words Trump can be a Hitler so long as he likes Jews! And is a winner! How horrible!

    How little you know of the evil that was Hitler. You, like the millions of misguided Germans who supported him, are now willing to jump on a similarly evil bandwagon, because he appears to be winning. You, like those millions of pathetic Germans in the ’30s, would have cheered Hitler on ‘as the car and democratic politics as the blacksmith’. What truly horrible thinking, devoid of any moral compass. From an educated man!

    Thank goodness for Enda and the millions of right-thinking Irish people who disagree with you. This time you have put your car before your blacksmith. This time blind evil will not prevail, at least not in Ireland. I am truly shocked at this article.

    • McCawber

      Enda right thinking? Get a grip.

      • Deco

        Enda Kenny “thinking” ?

        No. I don’t believe that.

        How about Enda Kenny, “obeying” ?

      • Pat Flannery

        I can just picture David and his faithful followers from here doing the goose step for Trump down at Dunbeg on the very day I will be proudly watching Enda show the serving American Vice President Joe Biden around his ancestral home at Ballina.

        As a proud citizen of both countries I know where I want to be on that historic day, ironically the day after the Brits will have voted themselves into global oblivion. I will be proudly waving both my passports.

        Trump and his kind are a disgrace to America and to the civilized world. I’m glad he does not have a drop of Irish blood in him. Let Noonan lower himself by meeting The Tramp at Shannon Airport as he has done once before.

        Kenny is an honorable statesman and will do the right thing for both my countries. California is for Hilary!

        • Truthist

          By incessant creep, all countries are becoming communist ;
          And, the 2 main parties of the USA have been doing so since at least the formation of the so-called “Federal” Reserve Central Bank of USA in 1913.

          Actually :


          1nitially ;
          2 rival factions ;
          Bolsheviks [ Led by Mr. Lenin ]
          Menscheviks [ Led by Mr. Martov ]

          Subsequently ;
          The 2 rival factions :

          Now led by Mr. Stalin


          Trotskites / Trots
          Led by Trotsky

          [ Since time of Trotsky being in conflict with Bolsheviks ] ;

          The 2 rival factions :

          Now led by the new Politicos of Republican Party [ GOP ] USA who were loyal to Stalin


          Trotskites / Trots
          Led by the new Politicos of Democratic Party, USA, who were loyal to Trotsky

          The 2 rival factions : Since circa 1982


          [ Now led by the new Politicos of :
          Fine Gael [ Blueshirts ] from Sir Garret Fitzgeral, & onwards, who were loyal to the Bolsheviks of E.U.

          Fianna Fail from Bertie Ahern, & onwards, who are loyal to the Bolsheviks of E.U.

          Labour Party from Dick Spring, & onwards, who are loyal to the Bolsheviks of E.U.


          Trotskites / Trots

          The Workers Party
          [ Led by Tomas Mac Giolla, & Prionsais De Rossa, who were apparently loyal to Trotskyites in E.U. Commission ;
          Certainly, not apparently adverse to Trotskyism.

          The Socialist Party
          Loyal to Trotskyites in E.U. Commission

          People before Profit Party
          Loyal to Trotskyites in E.U. Commission

          Anti-Austerity Alliance
          Loyal to Trotskyites in E.U. Commission ]

          Militant Socialist Party
          Loyal to Trotskyites in E.U. Commission ]

  6. Nobody goes to the cause of the inequity stated as the cause of the Trump/Saunders phenomenon.

    It is simply the result of the central banking money system.
    all money is issued as debt. Interest and repayments suck the lifeblood out of the economy.

    The beneficiaries are those closest to the source of the money. That is bankers and those wielding financial instruments. The rest of us get left behind.

    The decay of the last 4 decades mentioned correlates nicely with the era of unlimited money production that started in 1971 with the reneging of the US government of the Bretton Woods agreement.

    The Donald has proposed an audit of the Federal Reserve. That would be a start.
    Exposing the manipulation of the money masters would be the initial step in freeing up the economy. A restored money system will be the only thing that will restore the balance to the economy. That means taking on the bankers and Wall Street minion at the same time.

    How Enda greets Donald is irrelevant. It would be better to be nice than nasty.


  7. henrybarth

    The Roots Of Donald Trump’s Nativism

    Like Judge Doom in Who Framed Roger Rabbit Donald Trump is a cartoon villain railing against foreigners, the Federal Government and elites. He is wildly popular (for the moment) among a certain segment of the Republican party for championing protectionism, God and guns. You may not remember this but in 2007 and 2008 Hillary Clinton championed the same demographic in her attempt to wrest the Democratic Party nomination from Barack Obama. It didn’t work for Hillary and it’s probably not got to work for Trump either. But that’s not what interests me (politics ain’t my bag). What interests me is who these Trump supporters are. This segment of outsiders who hate elites, foreigners and Washington and who love guns and the Good Book are of course what used to be called Reagan Democrats or yellow dog Democrats. People from middle America and the middle South and Appalachia. These are the people known as the Ulster Scots or ‘Scotch-Irish’. As I said in a previous blogpost:

    Too few people realise that the history of the Irish in America does not begin with the potato famine but goes back a century earlier to the 1740 migration of Presbyterians from Ulster. The best book about this hidden history is the brilliant Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fischer, but Senator Jim Webb has written an entertaining primer called Born Fighting, both of which are well worth a read. Part of Jim Webb’s premise is that the Ulster Scots’ fighting and a feuding ways meant that they were predisposed for military service and that Scots-Irish officers were the backbone of Washington’s Army, the Union and Confederate Armies in the Civil War, the Doughboys of WW1, the GIs of WW2 and Vietnam.

    Now as Hackett Fischer points out in Albion’s Seed these Borderlanders from Ulster loved liberty, read the Bible, were fiercely independent, loved to fight, hated central government, were suspicious of outsiders and foreigners and they really loved to go to revival meetings to hear a preacher talk. These revival meetings are vividly described by Hackett Fischer with the travelling charismatic preacher cajoling, enraging, joking with and entertaining his audience. Sound like someone we know?

    But where did Trump learn this trick? He’s not a McCoy from Kentucky, he’s a rich kid from New York, the son of a well off German immigrant, who, furthermore, eschewed fighting in Vietnam by dodging the draft several times (unlike Jim Webb, John McCain and his cohort). The answer is to look at Trump’s Scottish Presbyterian mother, Mary Anne MacLeod. Mary MacLeod came from Stornaway on the island of Lewis-Harris in the Outer Hebrides. If you’ve seen the movie Highlander you already know about the Clan MacLeod (of which Trump and his mother are members) if you haven’t you can find out about them here. Lewis-Harris is one of the weirdest places in Britain, indeed in all of Europe. Rainy, stark, beautiful, its the only place in the British Isles where church attendance is actually going up. There are at least six different Presbyterian dominations on Lewis-Harris all at war with one another but who all insist on strict Sabbath observance, thrift, hard work and Bible study. In some of the churches thePresbyterian practice of Psalmody is carried out in an ancient Scots gaelic which to my ears is extraordinarily beautiful.

    I grew up a Presbyterian too but we went to the Presbyterian Church of Ireland which is a dour, sensible, Calvinist, unshowy, deliberately boring faith. There were no charismatic preachers in my church and none wd be tolerated by the Elders. But there was another Presbyterian Church in Ulster at that time: the Free Presbyterian Church which was run by Ian Paisley. Ian Paisley you’ll recall was a loud mouthed demagogue who was suspicious of foreigners (especially Europeans), who was Evangelical and who was bizarrely obsessed by the Pope (in Paisley’s eschatology Pope John Paul was the Anti-Christ).

    Trump comes from or at least is channeling this tradition. Exactly like Paisley Trump loves Israel, loves Scotland, worships guns, says his favourite book is the Bible (although he is unable to recall a single verse or book*) is determinedly Nativist and he says he thinks the central government is selling out the country…Trump though seems to have dropped the anti-Catholicism (at least I think he has, I wonder if his lambasting of Mexicans is at least partly because of their religion).

    Trump’s blue collar supporters seem to believe that this billionaire prep school graduate who dodged the draft and got rich by exploiting the bankruptcy laws is still somehow one of them. But, of course, he is. He was born into the Clan MacLeod and as Hackett Fischer points out Scottish and Ulster clan solidarity is a folkway that is still a very important – if almost unknown – current in contemporary American life. If any other American had attacked John McCain’s war record he wd have been finished but not Trump. Why? I think to the Ulster Scots it wasnt a big deal because Clan McCain and Clan MacLeod have been fighting each other for 600 years…

    If you’re interested in this stuff you can buy Albion’s Seed, here. The great Jonathan Meades’s, wonderful, eccentric visit to Lewis-Harris is worth watching from part 3 onwards, here. Jim Webb, it should be said, is also running for President…you can visit his campaign page, here.

    *I don’t know if Trump went to Sunday School but his lack of Biblical knowledge wouldn’t have passed muster in my church where huge chunks of the King James Bible were studied and analysed in the church itself, in Sunday School and at our Boys Brigade Bible study class.


  8. Kenny could tell Trump to reform the banking system. Reform the money system.
    Get government subsidy out of the bankers clutches.


  9. Maybe Kenny can ask Trump if he is a member of the criminal syndicate that has invaded and controls the US government.

    ” There are many topics discussed, and it requires close attention to see how all the pieces fit together, but the information is important. The significance of this narrative is that the federal government has been taken over by an organized criminal syndicate, and one of its prominent members is now running for President. InfoWars posted 2016 May 28 (Story)”


  10. Deco

    The answer to the question, will come from Imperial HQ in Brussels.

    In other words, Kenny will do whatever he is told to do.

    Be careful, because if Kenny is not given instructions by his handlers, he does have that habit, of doing his own thing (and making an ass of himself).

  11. Deco

    Dear Mr. Trump,

    If you call Enda Kenny names, we will not be offended. In fact we are running out of names to call him, so a few more are welcome.

    In Ireland the billionaires don’t run for office. They have stooges to do their dirty work.

  12. Deco

    Having gone out on a limb by advising Americans to vote for Hillary, the Taoiseach faces a choice: should he shower with garlands yesterday’s man, Joe Biden, or embrace the potential man of tomorrow, Donald Trump?

    Sounds like a massive setback for Clinton 2.0, to get an endorsement from such a clown.

  13. henrybarth

    If Trump’s mother was a citizen of the UK, might he be eligible for UK citizenship through ancestry?

    UK/US dual citizenship is allowed by both countries.

    • Seeing as the President of the US has a part time job, judging by the amount of time Obama plays golf and travels the world offering sage advice, I’d say Trump could fill in his time as the PM of the UK at the same time.

      Then he would not need to travel around the world as a business man with travel costs tax deducted. He could have his family and himself transported free, paid by the taxpayer, and complete with a phalanx of body guards.

    • Mike Marketing

      And vote for Brexit while he is over? He wants the UK to leave the EU.

  14. Ditto for the world as a whole

    “The people are collectively revolting against the existing social order as they are finally realizing they have been used and abused by the ruling oligarchy as pawns in their game of world domination. The obscene wealth of the .1% has been absconded from the working class through abuse of the tax laws, trade deals, regulations, monetary policy, public school indoctrination, peddling of debt to the masses, and relentless propaganda. The systematic manipulation of the financial, monetary, political and commercial markets by the money masters has left the country like a mighty diseased, hollowed out, rotting oak tree – one storm away from collapsing and splintering into a thousand pieces. A gathering storm approaches.”

    The regeneration is started with the advent of Trump. The climax of total regeneration will be about at the end of his second term. He could go down as the greatest president in American history if the yoke and shackles of the banksters can be broken.

    You should read this Enda, before talking to Trump!!


    • “There is no more room to increase leverage. Americans are up to their eyeballs in mortgage, credit card, auto loan, and student loan debt ($17.4 trillion). Corporations are stuffed with record levels of debt ($14 trillion) they used to buy back their stock at all-time high prices. State and local governments are drowning in trillions of debt and unfunded pension liabilities. The Federal government is $19.3 trillion in debt, with unfunded entitlement liabilities exceeding $200 trillion.

      It is mathematically impossible for this debt to be repaid with a rapidly aging developed world and a debt saturated developing world. With financial markets as overvalued as they have ever been, the next crash will leave all the heavily indebted parties with no assets to repay the debt. The losses will make the 2008 financial crisis look like a stroll in the park. And the Fed shot their load years ago, without having the guts to reload. Their credibility is shot and their $4 trillion balance sheet is insolvent. The Wall Street banks are zombies sustained by 0% interest rates and accounting fraud.”

    • “We are in the midst of a Greater Depression, with the most trying times still ahead. Fourth Turnings never de-intensify. They intensify into a chaotic whirlwind, where the future of our civilization hangs in the balance. The climax of this play is a long way off. The election of Trump in November will trigger the transformational change that always happens during a Fourth Turning. An ill wind is beginning to blow. You can’t avoid the coming storm, but you can mentally and physically prepare. Our choices will make a difference.”

  15. survivalist

    There is nothing whatsoever in the Trump campaign that is in any way different from any other presidential campaign that has taken place in the US in the past 20 years or more.

    When Obama won his first election, 2008, that so-called presidential campaign, won several recognitions at international advertising awards.

    The accolade makes sense symbolically and actually because his election was an advertising campaign in which business was selling a new product to masses.

    “The campaign, submitted by Obama for America, has been hailed as a masterful combination of new media, door-to-door and community grass roots campaigning with a clever tactical use of traditional TV advertising” (The Guardian 2009)

    Keep in mind that it was not the election outcome that needed to be sold but rather the Obama brand that was sold to the people and more importantly to the media.

    Trump has not tapped into or recognised anything in the ordinary American.

    As Mr McWilliams has pointed out “the notion of a billionaire taking the side of the working poor is bonkers”. That is obviously true and the only reason anyone thinks there is something else is because the propaganda is so successful.

    It is a showpiece of entertainment extravaganza. The US is a business-managed-democracy.

    Elections are too important to be out of the control of the boardroom and this one is no exception. It has been long known that in the US political sphere you have the business party, with two factions called Democrats and Republicans.

    Judging by the comments posted here it is expected and rightly, that Enda and official aka business Ireland will do what they have always done; literally anything, so long as it profits them.

    Integrity has no place in business or politics.

    • Deco

      The notion of a billionaire taking the side of the working poor is bonkers ?

      Didn’t an Irish billionaire pay for a soccer coach to keep us from thinking rationally about our predicament ?

      • survivalist

        Exactly :) Power will do anything, support anything, adopt any philosophy so far as it achieves its goals-which is most often the profit margin.

        The fact that the ‘cause du jure’ co-indices with peoples’ sentiment, is nothing more than well-worked and opportunistic PR.

  16. Deco

    I have listened to all sorts of absurd theories circulated as to why Trump is getting votes.

    Actually, in reality it is really easy to explain.

    The voters have been deprived of anything approaching real choice. US Presidential elections are between two parties that both represent the same corporatist lobbyists, but with a different superficiality on the policy framework.

    Television has become such a pervasive force in culture, that the choice is between two celebrities.

    If an unknown did what Trump did, his character would have been assassinated a long time ago, in a well choreographed media hit job.

    The plebs are not supposed turn their dissatisfaction into a political statement. They are supposed to feel unhappy, and go out and buy more stuff. And if they cannot buy the stuff, then they should vote for politicians who can finance them to buy more stuff.

    Trump tapped into residual dissatisfaction. The American dream has been highjacked by the bankers, popstars and TV presenters. It has become reduced to lies, and advertising.

    Trump is TV star, who broke ranks. Far from being the rogue, he is the rogue turned anti-rogue.

    American society (and that of other Western societies need to drop the celebrity culture rubbish).

    Celebrities are often narcistic attention seekers.

  17. Hi Donald. Do you agree with Ron Paul?

    “I happen to believe we have been in a recession or even a depression for the past eight years. The government manipulates the statistics to hide how bad the economy really is, until finally a bit of the truth leaks out and everyone seems surprised.”


  18. Hey Donald,said Enda, what is the real unemployment rate in the US. Is it true it is over 20%??


    “Trump … said he thinks the jobless rate is close to 20 percent and not the roughly 5 percent reported by the Labor Department”

  19. McCawber

    So the Leader of the Labour party wants our aging president to go another term without an election.
    This was done before and it set a bad precedent.
    The politicians will select our president for us – That’s democracy in action.
    While I am at it and you never know what is going on behind the scenes but Shane Ross was right to block Edna from making that board appointment without any formal process being used.

  20. Deco

    Today, the largest state in the US, California will have it’s Democratic Party selection process. It is very close. Sanders has been doing well, as of late. Clinton has the professional pretenders in Hollywood behind her.

    Yesterday, the corporatist inclined media declared that effectively it dod not matter. In a rather strange intervention, it was declared that Clinton had it all wrapped up. Before the largest US state made their selection.

    And afterwards, Clinton 2.0 held a rally, effectively celebrating the achievement.

    It is usually Trump that pulls of the PR stunts. But this is possibly the most outlandish PR stunt yet.

    I get the sense that if Clinton wins (and the contest is usually decided in favour of candidate who has the highest advertising budget to spend), that this will still be a watershed election. For some strange reason Clinton is being helped in some very unusual ways.

    Sanders, the angry man in the Democratic Party has been more effective than expected, but he has not been able to win the contest.

    Meanwhile, there is growing dissent from the more quarters concerning another Clinton in power.


    We’re going to be in border, resource, and forever wars for the next 10, 20, 100 years, until Trump (who our shadow government will never allow to exercise power) actually said in his straight way of talking, “our cities go bust.” Our media has been drained and made callous by war, increasingly sensationalized by TV, looking for the next high in the next headline, the more outrageous the better. Modesty in American politics is dead — it’s better to be sensational.

    Ironically, as they call Trump unelectable (which he is), it leaves you to think Clinton is the “new normal,” in which case you’ve been deceived by the unnecessary dichotomy that Clinton is actually “respectable” in the same way that Eisenhower/Dulles 1950s were respectable when we went about intervening and overthrowing governments in many countries. But the difference was they at least had the brains not to get into shooting wars.

    We’re going to war — either hybrid in nature to break the Russian state back to its 1990s subordination, or a hot war (which will destroy our country). Our citizens should know this, but they don’t because our media is dumbed down in its “Pravda”-like support for our “respectable,” highly aggressive government. We are being led, as C. Wright Mills said in the 1950s, by a government full of “crackpot realists: in the name of realism they’ve constructed a paranoid reality all their own.” Our media has credited Hillary Clinton with wonderful foreign policy experience, unlike Trump, without really noting the results of her power-mongering. She’s comparable to Bill Clinton’s choice of Cold War crackpot Madeleine Albright as one of the worst Secretary of States we’ve had since ... Condi Rice? Albright boasted, “If we have to use force it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future.”

    Hillary’s record includes supporting the barbaric “contras” against the Nicaraguan people in the 1980s, supporting the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, supporting the ongoing Bush-Iraq War, the ongoing Afghan mess, and as Secretary of State the destruction of the secular state of Libya, the military coup in Honduras, and the present attempt at “regime change” in Syria. Every one of these situations has resulted in more extremism, more chaos in the world, and more danger to our country.

    Sanders talks about money, listen to him. He talks cogently about money and its power to distort. He’s the only one who has raised his voice against the corruption in our politics. Clinton has embraced this corruption.

    I can deal with Trump. But Clinton is a terrifying prospect for the world. Her track record is of making the world a more dangerous place to live in. In fact it is very consistent.

    This will end in disaster. At the end of 4 years of President Hillary clinton, America will be losing allies, and gaining enemies. She is a disaster.

  21. Mike Marketing

    Look Deco these USA “top-of-the-pile” political people believe implicitly in the mantra “Might is right” and the law of the jungle will prevail.

    It also keeps the natives happy with steady jobs in the enormous US armaments industry.

    Dwight D Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles, Bill Clinton, George Herbert W Bush Snr, George W Bush, Barak Obama, Condoleezza Rice, Madeleine Albright,Hillary Clinton all have form.

    So Deco, whatya gonna do about it?

  22. Pat Flannery

    Deco: Sorry to disagree. As a registered Democrat I voted for her over Obama in the California Primary in June 2008. Of course I voted for Obama in the November 2008 presidential election. I believed then that either she or Obama would serve America and the world better than a Republican. I still believe today that either she or Sanders or any other Democrat, would serve America and the world better than what the Republican Party thinks America needs, a racist Trump Presidency.

    Trump represents an old dying, white-dominated America. Trump is right to fear Mexicans and the brown races. They are right to fear him. That is why Hilary will win the black and the brown vote right across America. She represents an inclusive, racially-mixed America, like California. Trump represents a dying Amish-style East Coast, trying to hold on to its Colonial past, just like the Brits with Brexit.

    Dominated by his Scottish-born mother Trump reminds me of Andrew Carnegie, without the philanthropy. I have no doubt that Trump would emulate Carnegie in hiring Pinkerton-style brown shirts to man his Mexican Wall. To such men personal greed and power knows no limits.

    I reject Trump’s America. So does California. Anybody who has ever lived in California for any length of time knows what the future of the world looks like, people and environment oriented. Trump is the ugly past.

  23. EX Central bankers are now admitting that they did not and do not know what they are doing. Central planners always ruin whatever is under their control and the money system is no different. Money expansion and interest rate policy decided by a cabal or cartel results in huge distortions to the economy and results in a huge misallocation of resources as both physical and human capital is destroyed.


    • In addition to the above King and Greenspan are now on record in support of owning gold as insurance from the coming disaster. What they do not admit to is their role in production of the disaster but they are now positioned to say “Hey, I said that, just go look at the record”.

    • McCawber

      This is more an admission and a message that CBs are not all powerful and need governments to step up to the plate too.
      Draghi on more than one occasion has referred to government inaction.
      He has been totally ignored – instead he’s been encouraged to keep printing and has started buying corporate bonds as of today.

  24. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bilderberg-2016-we-can-expect-desperate-lobbying-against-brexit-big-business-1563898

    “A disaster for everyone” is how Henri de Castries, the boss of AXA and a director of HSBC, describes Brexit. But in particular, it is a disaster for his banking and big business colleagues at Bilderberg.

    • McCawber

      He’s also wondering how that “bail in ” legislation is coming along EU wide.
      Outside the principle of bail in, the real risk of bail in is the extra safety net mentality it inculcates in the minds of Oficial Everyone.
      Ah sure it’ll be fine we’ve given ourselves to rob the punters bank accounts. NOW GO BACK TO SLEEP and BE QUIET.
      Is this what they really mean when widening the tax base.
      Mind you bank accounts won’t be necessary in Utopia but it’s a bit early.

  25. “Trump speaks the language of the middle because he has figured out what the issues are. This is crucial. He is a buffoon, possibly racist and definitely obnoxious, but he is winning. The old order is exposed and has nothing left to fight with.”

    So the American public are favouring a “buffoon, possible racist, and a definitely obnoxious” personality. It seems that not everyone subscribes to political correctness. Thank goodness for that. Refreshing.

    • McCawber

      PC is a virus. It’s totally dishonest.
      Our society is big on bullying and yet PC is the biggest weapon available to Official “Country or Union of choice”

  26. Truthist

    Trump, Kill-ary Clinton, & Sanders ;

    All are bad news for the future.

    Anyways, in this post & the following post I give u in total 4 links that report directly from Ron Paul that he will NOT vote for Trump NOR Kill-ary Clinton.

    So, any of Ewes here arguing with others here that Trump is the best of the bad lot ;
    ==> Think of urselves as arguing with the great man himself ; Mr. Ron Paul



    • Ron could not make it on the ballot with the Republicans as they changed the rules at the convention to disqualify hid delegates.

      If they do that with Trump this year there will be riots in the street.
      Trump has a public following never achieved by Ron Paul.

      At this point I would vote for Trump as he will not do anything to make things worse. It is already cast in stone. Trump could be there at the end as he twists and turns to make the deals.

      If he does not follow through with the FED audit then there is no help as we are overcome and submit to the PTB in economic serfdom.

      In the end we can not rely on politicians, just ourselves.

      • Truthist

        Trump will make things worse.
        As would Sanders ; As would Kill-ary.

        But, at least by voting in Trump, the electorate are understood to be breaking the 2 party stranglehold on who gets to be Prezzie.

        Problem ;
        Any new Prezzie CANNOT fix USA now.

        Reason ;
        The Khazarian Mafia — as Preston James PhD of veteranstoday.com “seminally” diagnosed, & prescribed for, in recent link given by ur good self [ Tony Brogan
        June 2, 2016 at 8:53 pm
        http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/05/31/time-to-hunt-down-and-capture-the-worlds-biggest-terrorists/ ]
        – are too embedded into the whole L.E.J. [ Leglislative, Executive, Judicial ] Structure of the U.S.A. that a Coup d’état of the L.E.J. [ which is what P.J. PhD ( above ) prescribes ] will NOT succeed presently.

        The most practical public action to help fix U.S.A. now will be for as many States as possible to “secede” from the Federal “Union” of States of America.

        They have a good example ;

        Crimea recently “seceded” away from the Khazarian Mafia who are usurping poor Ukraine — led by Victoria Nuland [ original name ; Nudleman ; Hubby is top U.S.A. Politico ; Kagan ], & P.M. “Yats”, & Prezzie “Porky” — to be again with moral Russia.

        Secession of U.S.A. States away from U.S.A. is going to be the new Kid on the Block.

      • McCawber

        Depends on the type of Audit.
        Remember Anglo et el audits were fine hahahahaaa weren’t they?

  27. Trump should avoid The New Totalitarian Temptation, as being practiced in Europe.


  28. Truthist

    Well, David asks “How should The Edna greet The Donald ?”.

    I trust The Donald should be greeted the same way as The Kill-ary expects to be greeted ;


    The Carpet rolled out.

    And, we all know by now how much Kill-ary likes Carpet. 8-)

  29. Teach the kids about the political process and how to debate without rancor.


    “Boy, age 9, stands up for his right to wear a Trump hat”

  30. Truthist

    Best avoid having all ur so-called “monies” in “digital” form.

    I would include Digital Currencies not linked to Gold [ e.g. Bitcoin ], & even Digital-Currencies linked to Gold.


    Much easier to trace the thieves if ur “monies” are in “physical” form AND in ur direct personal possession :
    Paper Fiat
    Non Precious Metal Coin

    But, of course, the governments & / or banksters could quash the value of ur “physical” monies.
    Gradually or suddenly.
    Then, ur Paper Fiat & Coin is only scrap value.

    So, best to have a certain amount [ relevant to ur present circumstances & ur WTSHTF circumstances ] of ur “savings” in the “physical” form of Gold & / or Silver AND in ur direct personal possession.
    Some as Legal Tender Gold Coin
    Some as Legal Tender Silver Coin
    Some as plain Gold [ Plain Jewelry, Bar ( e.g. Biscuit ) ] ; Originally issued & Stamped by reputable Gold Trader or Gold Mint
    Some as Gold Paper [ "Physical" Paper ]

    Anyways, here is a very recent sophisticated attack on account holders’ “monies” :


  31. Truthist

    Internet Blog ; Reliable Source for the Transcript below.

    There is just something very creepy about Trump’s odd, bellicose fixation on seizing Middle East oil fields ;
    Isis-controlled Syrian oil fields.

    He said to George Stephanopolous in 2011 ;

    “To the victor belong the spoils.”

    Here is very revealing transcript between Donald Trump & “Neo-con Hawk” George Stephanopoulos

    George, let me explain something to you.
    We go into Iraq.
    We have spent thus far, $1.5 trillion.
    We could have rebuilt half of the United States.
    $1.5 trillion.
    And we’re going to then leave.

    So, in the old days, you know when you had a war, to the victor belong the spoils.
    You go in.
    You win the war
    And you take it. …

    It would take 100,000′s of troops to secure the oil fields.

    Excuse me.
    No, it wouldn’t at all. …

    So, we steal an oil field ?

    Excuse me.
    You’re not stealing.
    Excuse me.
    You’re not stealing anything.
    You’re taking– we’re reimbursing ourselves– at least, at a minimum.
    And I say more ;
    We’re taking back $1.5 trillion to reimburse ourselves.

    • Mike Marketing

      Hope you are unsurprised Truthist.

      Sure Mr. Trump is just one of life’s self-serving Carpetbaggers.

      He is always looking for angles that he can personally profit from. How to find and pull-off the next ‘big’ deal.

      That is where he gets his jollies.

      The GOP Republican party is merely a convenient vehicle for him to take advantage of to take more ‘giant strides’ that he can then bragg about.

      Shakespeare put it best in ‘As You Like It’ All the world’s a stage,
      And all the men and women merely players;
      They have their exits and their entrances,
      And one man in his time plays many parts,
      His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
      Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
      Then, the whining school-boy with his satchel
      And shining morning face, creeping like snail
      Unwillingly to school.”

      I can just see the Donald, as a truculent youth being packed off to youth Military School by parents Fred & Annie.

  32. Truthist

    Some interesting info. on Trump’s family background is given in this link from http://www.aanirfan.blogspot.com

    Mind u, “aanirfan” or “angirfan” is partial to Bernie Sanders.

    I am against all of the 3 main contenders.
    Bernie Sanders may yet be a contender if Kill-ary is removed from contest for some reason.
    I consider them all “no good”.
    But, Kill-ary is the worst of ‘em all.

    By the way, I read today that Donald’s papa Fred Trump strenuously warned Donald to never set up a real-estate business with the New York king-pins.
    But, Donald did.

    And so on to the link below ;
    There are dubious origins as to Donald’s parents lives.


  33. Home Counties Girl

    ‘An Intro to Trumpology’. We need to study Donald Trump with the same precision that European and American Orientalists have studied their Orient.


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