October 22, 2015

Canada is the north American friend of Ireland we sometimes overlook

Posted in Irish Independent · 78 comments ·

Perhaps the most haunting piece of sculpture in Ireland is the group of gaunt, skeletal famine figures on Dublin’s docklands. They are simply walking, to somewhere, to a better place. Sculptor Rowan Gillespie has captured these desperate images of tortured souls, their defeated faces and sunken eyes. Gillespie was inspired by sketches drawn by charitable Quakers working in rural Cork during the winter of 1846. Years ago, when I first saw these ghoulish figures in the Docklands, I was immediately transported back to the desperate Ireland of our ancestors. Maybe that’s what great art does, it gets under your skin.


Gillespie’s famine statues inspired the novelist Joseph O’Connor to write his brilliant famine novel “The Star of the Sea”.

When O’Connor saw these images of starving, helpless people, walking towards something, just walking, he began to conceive his characters in what was to be one of the finest Irish novels written in the past 50 years.

This morning, in the bright sunlight over Lake Ontario, I am amidst the same statues in Ireland Park, Toronto. And one of the statues is Rowan Gillespie’s depiction of O’Connor’s deeply, malignant character, Pious Mulvey, from ‘The Star of the Sea’.

Ireland Park is a wonderful monument to the Irish Diaspora and Irish history here in Toronto. The park is right on the water with an amazing view of the lakeshore skyline. You couldn’t get a better location to celebrate the Irish in this part of the world.

Canada is again becoming one of the fastest-growing destinations in the world for young Irish people. These days, the emigration experience is a totally different one. Latest figures show that migration from Ireland is a two way street – much more likely to be part of the leg of a journey, rather than a final destination.

Today, many young Irish people are moving as easily to places like Toronto as their parents did from rural Ireland to Dublin in the 1970s.

It is a special place for me because I could have easily been Canadian. My parents were set to emigrate to Canada in 1960. They both had visas, jobs and were about to embark on a new life in Ontario but got the heebie-geebies at the last minute and stayed in Ireland.

Back then, you weren’t coming back – once you went, you went. In 1985, I headed to Toronto for a summer job and loved it – first working as a barman in a Chinese restaurant.

Toronto is home to one of the largest Irish diasporas and one of the oldest. While Irish fishermen fished the Grand Banks with the Basques in the 17th century (which is why Newfoundland in Irish is Talamh an Éisc), the main wave of migrants came in the 19th century.

Between 1815 and 1845, 496,000 Irish people emigrated to Canada.

This is a huge figure. In 1847 alone, 98,500 Irish emigrants landed in Canada. Given that there was a 20pc mortality rate on the ships, it implies that in the spring of 1847, close to 120,000 left Ireland for Canada.

Consider that 38,565 of these people landed in Toronto – a town that at the time had a population of only 20,000. It’s a little-known fact that the reason so many came to Canada is that the US imposed huge fines on ships bringing typhus into American ports. The families of Henry Ford, Bing Crosby and even Walt Disney came to North America through Canada.

Ireland Park is a memorial to the Irish Famine migrants, including the thousands who died on arrival here, most of whom left no trace; not even their names are known as they were buried in mass graves.

Today, 4,354,000 Canadians are of either full or partial Irish descent. This is 14pc of the country’s total population. Here in Ontario, 531,865 people registered as Irish Canadian in the last census.

This makes the self-declared ‘Irish’ the fourth-largest cultural group in Toronto. Modern Canada is also extremely welcoming to Irish people.

This morning, Canada wakes up to a new government embodied by the youthful leader of the Liberals, Justin Trudeau.

Trudeau is Quebecois and because so many Catholic Irish chose to stay in Catholic Quebec rather than Protestant Ontario, it is believed that as many as 25pc of Quebecois are of Irish descent.

In fact, the defeated leader of the New Democratic Party, Tom Mulcair – representing the French-speaking Outremont constituency – is a prime example of these French-speaking Irish-Canadians.

Today, far more young Irish people are getting visas for Canada than the US. For example, 10,000 ‘International Experience Canada Visas’ are now being allotted to Ireland per year. Last year, 6,000 new work visas were snapped up by Irish people online in thirteen minutes!

Seventy per cent of Irish who come to Canada land in Toronto, which for the first time in years has direct flights to Dublin.

When I came here, I had to fly via Amsterdam. Today, unlike in previous generations, 64pc of Irish who emigrate to Canada have third-level degrees. This compares with 42pc of the Irish population in general.

Trade between Canada and Ireland is increasing steadily. In 2013, two-way trade between Canada and Ireland in goods and services approached $3.7bn (€2.5bn). Five hundred Irish companies operate in Canada and 50 have subsidiaries here, employing 6,000 people. A quarter of all Irish investment abroad is in Canada.

Canada’s merchandise exports to Ireland totalled nearly $429.2m in 2013, an increase of 35.4pc from 2012. At the end of 2013, the stock of Canadian Direct Investment Abroad (CDIA) in Ireland reached nearly $16bn, ranking Ireland the ninth-largest destination of CDIA.

Meanwhile, 200,000 Canadians visit Ireland each year and in total, between 2013-2014, trade with Canada grew by 18pc.

The cultural, ethnic and commercial links between Canada and Ireland are extremely strong. Sometimes this is overlooked because of the dominance of the US in Ireland’s North American odyssey.

Toronto is changing rapidly. For example, I saw my first and only Orange March here in July 1985.

This used to be a very Protestant city and indeed the link between Ontario and Ulster used to be extremely strong. My northern wife has lots of distant relations originally from Antrim dotted all around rural Ontario.

But today it is a multicultural melting pot, of which the Irish – from all over the island of Ireland – add our own significant flavour. This looks like continuing.

On the day Canada celebrates a new political dawn, I sit here, looking back at the waterfront skyline, in the shadow of Gillespie’s haunting famine figures, and I am sure the story of Ireland and Canada is about to open a new uplifting chapter.

  1. ex_pat_northerner

    David, work with Canadian branch in my job. A lot of what you say is true. However would like to know where you stand on CETA and for that matter TTIP and TISA ? Do you see these as advantageous to the many, or just to the corporations.
    I would also say a lot of Canadians are horrified with what has happened to their Country under Harper – that they have gone from one of the leaders of the Environmental Movement to a Petro-state.
    Last time I was in Calgary they were looking for 120K people before 2020 – but it was all shale/tar sands boom. Even the E Coast Canadians were amazed ..it was like someone from rural Ireland visiting Dublin in the Boom ..you’ld heard the stories, but didn’t believe the prices :-) . now there’s a significant cut back in operations there, yet E coast is starting to recover in line with US economy.

  2. Grey Fox

    The similarities with my own family are, I was going to say uncanny, but probably more normal than we know. My parents did move to Canada in 1960, my sister is Canadian although I am Irish as my parents returned a few short years later, I guess the cold feet didn’t kick in as quick.
    The sister returned to the city of her birth at age 18, resides there still ad raised her family with one Irish daughter and two Canadian daughters.
    I suggested you visit a fabulous restuarant “Marben” yesterday on another forum as the two Canadian daughters run that establishment, one part owner and the other general manager, if you get a chance go along, the experience will stay with you long after you have left. ask for Niamh or Clare. http://marbenrestaurant.com/
    The Irish have done so well after leaving our shores, the examples are everywhere. I myself left for the USA during the miserable economic period of the early 80′s and ended up in long distance trucking which afforded me the opportunity to visit the sister on regular occasions in Canada.
    I was always struck by the unabashed work ethic of Irish people after they had found a society, (USA,Canada) which encouraged that spirit while here in Ireland we consistently placed obstacles in the path of our young go-getters.
    The many Irish folk who understood the value of the opportunity to work in North American was always palpable to me when I was there, regardless of the legal status of the Irish person.
    The sacrifices made, missing births, deaths, holidays was and is a testament to the Irish spirit to get on with it, given half a chance and if the parochial leaders in Ireland, even today, could harness that spirit, then we truly would be the greatest little Country to live, work and do business in, but in truth I despair and seriously regret on one level, ever having returned to Ireland.

    Toronto is a great city, I envy you opportunity to experience even a short visit.

  3. Pat Flannery

    “Ireland Park is a wonderful monument to the Irish Diaspora and Irish history here in Toronto. The park is right on the water with an amazing view of the lakeshore skyline. You couldn’t get a better location to celebrate the Irish in this part of the world.”

    I have visited Toronto and its “Ireland Park” several times. It is very depressing, not because of what it commemorates, but its ugly spirit and where it is located, behind an ugly disused Malting works with unbelievably ugly pedestrian-only access. Rather than “celebrating the Irish” as you put it, I see it as a continuation of a British-Canadian putdown of the Irish. The Irish in Canada deserve better, perhaps a more rounded memorial to their contribution to that country.

    I have visited Grosse-Île, Quebec only once but have found its mass graves a much more honest memorial in that it represents the real story of how the Irish arrived in Canada and the mixed reception they received from the French and British races there. The Irish in Canada owe much to the French-Canadian generosity of spirit while British prejudice against the Irish crossed the North Atlantic largely intact. Time for change.

  4. Deco

    Harper left a mess. And not just environmental. Various laws have been introduced which move Canada along the road of a surveillance society. Debt levels are massive.

    Harper was not even a conservative. He also waited around long enough to ensure that he alienated many people.

    Trudeau Junior has to run Canada with much less money than Harper. I reckon that Canada is about to get into serious economic trouble. A problem, the nature of which, will be familiar to many Irish people.

    Debt. Banks. Housing.

    I am not at all optimistic about the next three years for Canada. Trudeau has little experience outside of media, politics and various causes. He will find himself thrown in at the deep end very soon.

  5. michaelcoughlan

    Hi David,

    I am delighted David that you brought up the starving wretched figures of Irish being driven from their homeland because it reminds us of the economists worst nightmare the haunting death spiral of deflation.

    Deflation as we know it is a economic event but also can be a human one. Take the Gorta Mor for example (great hunger, there was no famine which means absence of food) 8 million souls living in Ireland prior to the failure of the potato crop. Now David the Guburenment at the time knew the landlord tenant system had failed and wanted to convert the land to agricultural production to feed the urban masses in mainland Britain who had moved off the land into the cities for work in the factories.

    The only way that could happen of course was to deflate the 8 million down to a planned 500k to free up the land and the blight sure helped achieve that goal didn’t it Dathi? Fucking scum in charge made a good job of achieving their goal by helping the starving millions onto the coffin ships.

    Now David let us examine our modern deflationary Dilemma. This time the requirement is to deflate the human population to save the capital expenditure required for the provision of human services so that capital can be diverted to pay coupons on every increasing numbers of bonds which Tony Brogan has told you is self defeating to keep the currency supply expanding.

    What could Suds do to solve his dilemma? I know, Fuck me! Abortion! Imagine Dathi if we could convince the Irish Population to abort every conceived child in the state in the new year and ensure no kids are born here next year. You could close the maternity hospitals and more money for bankers of course!

    Suds could convert Ireland into his wet dream society. A society of very badly paid gay men fostering kids from Latvia who would go on to become very badly paid workers. The scum in charge got around the definition of the family as that which consists of unit headed by a man and a woman in the last referendum as these two exceptional gay men will attest to;


    I propose we add a simple installation in bronze to the statues in Canada titled “Ireland’s latest deflationary response 2015” consisting of a bucket containing a dismembered 5 month old foetus. We can dedicate it’s inspiration to gsucks and suds.

    So my question for you David this morning especially in light of your “moral duty” shit talk when giving evidence to the Oireachtas committee is as follows;


    • Deco

      No deflation in the asset markets though.

      I don’t see the share price of G-Sucks deflating.

      When the Nasdaq or the FTSE or the ISEQ deflates, we get the newspapers and TV stations telling us that the sky is falling.

    • redriversix

      Hi Micheal

      You were very quick to pick up on “Fuckin humans” in my last comment in previous article.

      I was very impressed…thought I was being very clever..!!

      Hope your well & all is wonderful..?

      Unusual to see you cuss….!!

      Enjoy your evening


      • michaelcoughlan

        Hi RR6.

        I really like they way you write and I really mean if you set up a blog I will pay you in advance a 100 Euro sub. You can set up a blog for nothing. All you have to do is chronicle the human decay as you go on your travels. Have a reason for this which I will explain in a minute.

        Our host opened my eyes that deflation is the real threat when I thought it was hyperinflation was the worry. I am trying to repay him the compliment by trying to open his eyes to the idea that deflation is not in fact the difficulty that the worlds economists are trying to solve but is in fact their COVERT POLICY.

        Brogan has proved that an every increasing money supply is the only thing that will stop the derivatives bubble from blowing up and that means the establishment need the “fucking humans” to be culled down to a manageable number to stop the drain of capital reducing the expansion of the derivatives bubble itself. Out host is a stubborn fucker though.

        I am sorry for the foul mouth which I had been criticised about before. I feel though its the only way to convey the veracity of my feeling.

        The reason I would think you could add great value writing a blog on your travels is that you will provide the anecdotal and field based data to prove that the banking establishment is decoupling much of the “fuckin humans” from the main stream economy for the reasons stated above.

        Warmest regards.


        (Please write the blog).


    Canada is a poor man’s USA. Twice as many Canadians emigrate south as Americans make the reverse journey. Everything moves slower than in the States, the climate leaves a lot to be desired- worse than our own.
    During the 1950′s , 20,000 Irish emigrated to Canada, now it’s as high as 9,000 per annum- what better illustration of the mess left by FF.
    I see Dan Mc Laughlin has landed a cushy gig in DIT, a happy hunting ground for failed politicians and former free market economists!

  7. Nice fall day in Paradise.

    • Deco

      Trudeau’s promised to bring in tax changes – hikes for the highest earners, cuts for middle-income Canadians – within his first 100 days.

      He’ll also reverse the Conservative government’s doubling of TFSA limits and the income splitting they introduced for families with young children

      He is promising any awful lot with the first 90 days, the first 100 days.

      Well, why not ? It is not like as if he ever had to deliver on anything in a set time period before, apart maybe from the odd contribution to the media.

      Trudeau 2.0 is extremely naïve, and inexperienced.

      Disaster within 5 years.

  8. http://www.budget.gc.ca/2015/home-accueil-eng.html

    This is what Canadians threw out in the Election!!
    Under Harper Taxes were steadily reduced and the size of government reduced. However the latest legislation offered the opportunity to pry into Canadian lives on the excuse of combating terrorism.

  9. Propaganda outweighed common sense in this last election. The budget was progressive and expansionary but balanced for the first time since the 2008 down turn.


    But is endorsed by the following


  10. http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/1.3271089

    “You might think that “Tory” is just a shortening of Conservative, but you’d be wrong. The word predates the Roman conquest of Europe, back to the days when the Celts dominated the Continent. Their word toworet meant something like “running,” and Old Irish later borrowed it as toirighim, meaning “I pursue.”

    And what exactly did a toirighim pursue? Your money. In 1566, the word was defined as “one class of Irish robbers noted for outrages and savage cruelty.”

  11. “For much of the 1800s, Montreal and Quebec City were the two largest urban centres in what would become Canada, and their populations were anywhere from one-quarter to one-third Irish.”


    One of your own was the 1967 Queen of the St Patricks day Parade in Montreal!! Name withheld by courtesy!

  12. dwalsh

    It is significant I think that the memorial to the famine on the docklands which David mentions is right outside the IFSC; the Irish Financial Services Centre. I see it as significant because I have always regarded the IFSC as a Trojan Horse. The IFSC was heralded as a great boon to the nation that would enrich us all; it turned out to be a gang of brigands that bankrupted our nation. The financial services industry has bankrupted the entire Western world.

  13. dwalsh

    Well done Canada for getiing rid of Harper.

  14. We get American TV here in Antigua, they play this advert every five minutes on one channel or another:


    What a rip off! Shamelessly trying to get senior citizens to part with their cash for useless trinkets.

    Vote and buy gold guys!

  15. Grzegorz it looks like your predictions of carnage by ‘radicalized’ Muslims (‘radicalized’ by who? – David Cameron?) in Sweden has come true. I stand corrected.

    Oh wait, it was some deranged white dude that carried out that awful act. As mentioned here previously by me there are nutters in every ethnic group on the planet. It doesn’t help that you and your like, with your prehistoric views on foreigners perpetuate a climate of fear and intolerance in which violence can be encouraged from any side.

    I don’t blame you though, you grew up in Poland – I lived in Hungary for a good few years myself. You have all been conditioned by repressive societies to be xenophobic and insular etc. One day your country will mature and grow out of such nonsense. Hungary too.

    All the best from Antigua, minimal to zero racism here – people know better.

    • coldblow


      I call extravert moral policing! You can’t stop yourself, can you?

      When I went into the newsagents this morning I heard just a snap of news from the Radio: Sweden calls this its darkest day, or something like that.

      Perhaps you missed the exchange between me and DB a couple of weeks ago about the random murder in an IKEA shop in Sweden. DB said that the Swedish media had blanked the news out. I confirmed that, by another of those wonderful coincidences that keep happening to me, I had been listening to the P1 Morgon radio programme (Sveriges Radio), and that they hadn’t mentioned it. (I think they had led with calls for teachers there to learn minority languages in order to be able to teach the immigrants more effectively.)

      When I listened to the podcast again I realized I had made a mistake. There was a very brief reference to the killings about an hour into the programme. The next day they gave it more prominence, but again did not say anything about the suspects being immigrants, instead agonizing over whether they had used knives on sale in the shop, which was obviously a H&S issue down the road.

      How do you make out his comments to be prehistoric? And how do they perpetuate a climate of fear and intolerance? One can of course make out plausible arguments to support these views but this avoids the bigger picture. If a country avoids mass immigration in the first place then you have nothing to fear from extremists. It seems more plausible that countries like Sweden (and now Ireland, Paddy Last-style) set out deliberately to encourage the immigration in order to change their countries from places they hated and were ashamed of (as is the case with you and Ireland, as you have often stated) into places which fit into their untested utopian ideas of what these countries should be (ideas which would have been rejected as foolishly radical at any time in the past). It seems important that there are ‘extremist’ elements on hand, but not too many, whose presence can serve to justify maintaining and increasing the immigration.

      Note too that the various peoples never were consulted, ever, and never will be about this revolutionary transformation of their countries and way of life. The reason is obvious. Do you want to say it or shall I?

      You clearly find fault with Poland now, along with Hungary and Ireland, who you have criticized already. The Hungarians you dismissed as ‘neurotic’. What neurosis would that be exactly? Does this qualify as ‘racism’?

      They are dismissed as ‘repressive’. Is Ireland (or Britain for that matter) less repressive? Why, yes, of course. We had an open and honest debate in our media about the decision to admit thousands of people from a completely aliein culture (I know, you don’t think much of our culture) in which all viewpoints were fairly represented.

      ‘You have all been conditioned…’ You read the Guardian don’t you? That paper is of course well known for its independent thinking and never follows fashionable opinion. Extraverts seem to have little choice but to follow the crowd, though there are some glaring exceptions (as I have noted here) so the defence of diminished responsiblity can’t fully excuse their behaviour.

      Antigua: ‘minimal to zero racism here’. I doubt it is zero, so please tell me about the ‘minimal’. From the little I know about Jamaica they are extremely sensitive to the social implications of gradations in skin colour. Have you ever heard of the sparring between Trinidad’s VS Naipaul and St Lucia’s black poet Derek Walcott?


      ‘I have been bitten. I must avoid infection. Or else I’ll be as dead as Naipaul’s fiction.’

      A colleage of mine, a very well read man, was once dealing with the High Commiccioner of Trinidad, a cheery black lady who asked him if he knew anything about the island. As Trinidad had just qualified for the World Cup she was expecting him to say ‘football’. When he answered ‘VS Naipual’ her smile vanished.

      • coldblow,

        I call extravert moral policing! You can’t stop yourself, can you? Blah,Blah,blah, hahaha.

        To give Ireland it’s credit (for once), it’s a far less racist country (or rather, place) than Hungary, the UK or the USA etc. Irish people are, on the whole, very welcoming and I love that about them. Nowhere is perfect of course.

        Have you ever actually been to Hungary coldbow? Or the USA, Poland, or Trinidad, or Antigua? Or lived in any of them? Or talked, I mean – really talked to anyone from any of those places?

        Knowledge and experience come from more than just books – although I do enjoy your frequent literary references and follow up on many of them.

        Enjoy the weekend, Adam.

        • coldblow


          ‘You can’t stop yourself, can you?’

          Well, you can’t, can you, it’s part of the condition. I know because I am (by definition) married to one.

          You are right in your assumption that I haven’t travelled much, though, and I haven’t got into long conversations with eastern Europeans. That’s one reason I find Grzegorz’s posts interesting. I asked the girl on the counter in our local Polish shop the other day why she dealt with me in English and could she tell I wasn’t Polish just by looking at me (they think my wife is because she is blonde) and she said no, she just recognized me as ‘an old customer’. I like to listen in to see how my Polish is progressing.

          I did once talk to a Hungarian (knowingly), whether he was an immigrant or second generation I don’t know, at a leaving do in Dublin in 1988 and I didn’t like him at all.

          ‘The University of Life, mate. The University of Life.’:

          Strange to say, while I admit to reading a lot not all of my knowledge comes via that route. I also rely on observation and my own vast intellect. And increasingly I read not for information but to ask myself why the writer holds his opinions. I am proud to declare that the Grand Theory of Everything (work in progress) is very much the product of the workings of my own head. (Does it show?)

          I have never been outside Europe and I have little desire to do so either. I just don’t like travelling and I’m not always overwhelmed by what I find when I arrive. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t take issue with the conventional view that people are people wherever they are, although they do vary. But I also don’t think they have changed over the centuries so I question the foolishness and recklessness of the open borderers. I also don’t believe that morality changes fundamentally over time either or that you can create a new morality just by wishing it and then telling off or shutting up everyone who doesn’t care to believe in it. (There’s that policing of norms again.)

          I know Sweden pretty well, though, and had three extended holidays there more than when I was a young man, staying with a friend from university who was studying the history of Swedish fascism. On the second day he asked me, ‘Have you noticed yet?’ I hadn’t, but the next day he asked me the same question and I had. On the surface it looked like a clean, antiseptic version of England but after a while you noticed that people behaved very differently. I still like them though, and I regret that their leaders have led them into a multicultural utopia which may not end well. Let’s hope I am wrong about that.

          Have a nice weekend yourself.

          By the way, what is the murder rate on your island? I was reading about the shocking high rate in the Caribbean last night, in Ed West’s book. Apparently this is one of the many unforeseen results of mass immigration and multiculturalism. Of course, Ireland has the benefit of the mistakes of others, so doesn’t have to be Paddy Last for a change. And one in five of us are already born outside the country (myself included). And we have our own homegrown Traveller diversity, and its usefulness for our own moral guardians (elected and unelected) to admonish the unenlightened. So we don’t need find new ways of proving our goodness, do we?

    • coldblow

      I also forgot your wonderful line: ‘One day your country will mature and grow out of such nonsense.’

      This is another perennial cliche. I’d even describe this post of yours as ‘a master class’ in cliche were it not one too.

      It’s the ‘mature’ that catches the eye. There is a lot that could be said about this alone, but it’s enough for now to point out that whatever the radical utopian supporters of open borders are, they are certainly not mature.

      • Well would you Adam and Eve it, look at the headline in the Guardian on this beautiful tropical morning:

        “Fear and xenophobia poison Polish polls”


        I have just woke up, it’s not yet 9am here and I swear I didn’t see that headline before I went to bed.

        Those goddamn liberals in the Guardian!

        • coldblow

          God love them, they never let you down.

          • DB4545

            Coldblow and Adam
            There are lives destroyed by the murders in both IKEA incident and the school incident. There are no excuses for either. What did strike me is that no pictures were published of the perpetrator/s in the IKEA incident yet the picture of the perpetrator in the school incident was published almost immediately in the Swedish mainstream media and global media. Is there a legal prohibition on publishing pictures of criminals if they’re from an ethnic minority and if so why? It hardly seems balanced or fair but it is so PC.

        • Grzegorz Kolodziej

          Dear Adam,

          I would love to answer you properly, but Coldblow has answered you so much better than I can and besides, I have lots of things to deal with right now related to my mum’s funeral (lung cancer – not a pretty way of dying: you sort of suffocate).
          So please do not hold a grudge against me if my answer is overly brief.

          1. “it was some deranged white dude that carried out that awful act.”
          This is a typical straw man. I do not believe that there is a reader of this blog who claims there are not deranged white dudes (besides I do not why you came up with the white topic in first place, as if I was a white supremacist Mrs. Merkel consciously or unconsciously wants us – due to action and reaction – to be, but that’s another thing).

          But since you mentioned it, I feel called up to the plate. I think your remark would be more meaningful if it was accompanied by whites and non-whites crime statistics in Europe or the US. They are devastating for the blacks, only you will not read it in The Guardian (a real moral authority, a paper which sacked a journalist who had written the inconvenient truth about the hunger in the Ukraine and which, in the name of the naive pacificism and KGB-infiltrated Biritsh trade unions, claimed that Hitler should not be opposed by force).

          Btw, I wrote before that I would probably vote for Dr. Ben Carson (as a most electable Republican, though now since Marco Rubio is climbing in polls I might change my mind), so again, I feel this whites argument is a straw man argument.

          2. “You have all been conditioned by repressive societies to be xenophobic and insular etc.” – I will not break my lance pointing out that your comment strikes me as the most racist I have ever read on this blog, what is more remarkable for me is that it betrays an astonishing lack of knowledge of Polish past and present.
          Are you talking about a country which has been mocked as the Jewish Paradise by Diderot (due to what he considered an excessive tolerance towards Jews), where the Polish history textbook recommended by the Minister of Culture was written by a Welshman and which has recently taken approximately 200,000 refugees and economic migrants from the Ukraine (which has “thanked” Poland introducing ban on Polish pork imports, on behest of Germany which has taken over that market?).
          Lat but not least, many critical things can be said about Poland (and I said many such things), but not that it is insular – a country through which most nations had been walking through like through an open barn, plundering and interbreeding. Poland was a country which has invited German and Dutch immigrants in middle ages and there are whole villages in Poland with traces of their architecture, religion and customs (one of them, Wilamowice, has even retained a local language based on old Dutch; I wonder how the xenophic Poles have tolerared that since liberal Germans do not allow (by law) to speak Polish to children from mixed Polish-German divorcees).
          A town where I come (over 850 years old) from is ethnically Swedish and the neighbouring town football fans used to spray Sweden on the its signs.

          If Poland is insular and xenophobic, I wonder what can be said about Germany or France where burning houses with immigrants or synogogues (over 200 of them a year in France) are becoming a normal view.
          This is happening with the full knowledge of German intelligence (I have written about it extensively).

          Keep informed about politics in Poland by The Guardian (where the main source of information is directly financed by German foundations and another one has 150,000,000 to his disposal for the Polish taxpayers-funded Museum of Jews). It will do you good.

          Of course the whopping victory of Law and Justice had nothing to do with Mr. Martin Schulz remark “dem Europa der Ultranationalisten den Kampf an … und das muss sich notfalls jetzt auch mal mit Macht durchsetzen”, the fact that the Civic Platform has changed the law so that local tax offices could change the interpretation of the law and chase you for taxes 5 years back if you were an SME and did not give them a brawn envelope or the fact that the economic growth has only benefited the 10pc already well-off Poles while 2,000,000 Poles have left Poland forever, in most cases and did not come back as finding a job in Poland was impossible unless you lived in Warsaw (above the EU income per capita), Krakow or Poznan or you were related to a local politician.

          Anyway, Mr. Holland – far more left than you – does not share your anxiety and insisted on meeting President Andrzej Duda shortly after the election, to talk about the immigration problem (France is not entirely happy either that Germany does not want 800,000 immigrants any more; neither is Austria – Germany has promised Austria to take all their immigrants and reneged on their promise).

          In fairness to you, you could be far more radical. You are not yet proposing to build in Ireland re-education camps for the enemies of the open society such as myself and slap them in face like the thief Juncker has slapped President Orban:


          P.S. Sincere thanks to Mrs. Merkel and German embassy in Dublin for the 5pc jump of Law and Justice in opinion polls after Mr.Schulz’s remark, to which “xenophobic” prof. Legutko has alluded in a somewhat better mannered way than Mr. Orban:


  16. SMOKEY

    They have Moosehead beer up there ay. I used to love Moosehead, but the antlers bruised my thighs.

  17. McCawber

    Hi David,
    You do a lot of long haul travel.
    Would you be so kind as to let us all know what measures/precautions you take to minimize the impact of JET LAG.
    Do you follow a set procedure?

  18. Deco

    Trudeau Junior will achieve one thing.

    He will ensure that Canadians become wise to the stupidity of voting for people because of their name.

    In other words, I can now predict his biggest achievement in politics, before he accomplishes it.

    He will put an end to the nonsense of hereditary politicians in Canada.

    • Deco

      Trudeau has run nothing serious in his life.

      He is about to be responsible for a serious country.

      The learning curve is too steep.

      • I was of your opinion Deco but during the election campaign of two months, the longest in Canadian history, I began to be more impressed by him. Strange as I was not impressed by PE Trudeau, his father. Post elections on TV have been good too.

        BUT one of the reasons that the Liberals received such good coverage on CBC is that Trudeau had promised to give CBC an extra 150 million on their state sponsored budget. Conservatives had done a lot of muttering about privatising CBC.

        THe result was a lot of favoured Liberal and anti conservative nuance provided by the apolitical CBC. That is, the taxpayer fronted a wack of advertising dollars for the Liberal Party. Tradition reigns!

    • DB4545

      Tony Brogan

      I think you’ve just introduced me to true modern art. I’m heading up there next week for a couple of days next week so I’ll be sure to conform to Lutheran Nordic values and behave like a patriotic Icelander.

      • Well done Deco, take photos with you and see if you can get them placed where you can do your duty. In fact it could work the world over. Take a photo after the pissing and then post on Facebook. It might become a world movement , so to speak!

  19. The rest of North american is rotten to the core and in terminal decline.


    “The U.S. financial system is the biggest, most fraudulent Ponzi scheme in history. When you peel back the layers of lies, deception and fraud, the U.S. is a crumbling empire. “

  20. ther, like son, is an old saying.

    The Fed jawbones a raise but sits pat.
    Likewise the ECB Draghi.
    US dollar jumps on the “News”. Same effect as a US interest raise.

    Posted at lemetropolecafe


    Draghi signals ECB ready to extend QE: ECB President Draghi prepared the market for further policy easing after the ECB left its key rates unchanged. Draghi confirmed that the degree of policy accommodation will be re-examined at the December meeting when the next set of staff projections are also due.

    HaHa, pay to leave your money in the bank and then be bailed in when the bank goes bust. Nobody in their right mind would leave any investment in a bank, bank vault or safety deposit box.

    • McCawber

      Keep quiet about that for a while will you?
      I’m trying to get my money out and I don’t want a run on banks just now.
      Only problem I have is where am I going to re-invest my money.
      The thought of keeping under my mattress is almost as scary as leaving it in the bank.

      • Central bankers dilemma. Commercial banks hoard the reserves so no loans are given. People turn frugal and save money in bank. Result is no circulation of money, no spending, no manufacturing, slowing economy.

        Never occurred to them apparently that everyone is surfeited with goods and or debt or both. Even Davids exhortation of “Your spending is my income” makes no sense.

        So the central banks do all they can to get people to spend and that includes a tax on deposits called negative interest rates. It also included QE to infinity. More and more currency created that is finding its way into the betting shops of the financial markets. Bonds, stocks and derivatives. It is now, My asset is your liability and vice versa. All these loans including the original QE (issued as a loan) are only as good as the person, corporation, behind the loan. One default and the pyramid comes crashing down.

        Before that happens there is a loss of faith in the value of the currency issued with such gay abandonment. People try to get rid of it . Then there is a loss of faith in the banking system. Your deposit is actually a loan to the bank. Will you get your money back. Not with negative interest rates and the chance of a bailin .

        The trouble is that Cash as it is called is only 1% of all the currency in circulation in one form of the other. The rest is held as paPER SUPPORTED LOANS IN THE STOCKS AND BONDS ETC.

        So if people withdraw just 1% of the currencies from the bank there will be no money left to circulate.

        That cannot be allowed to happen so the bankers propose to eliminate cash. When there is no more cash all transactions will be done electronically and recordable. No more black market under the table deals.

        But mankind being ever inventive will come up with alternative solutions such as bit coin and hard money such as silver to continue to trade.

        The banking system as we know it is doomed. So the solution at present is hard assets. When the run on the banks happens the currency values will plummet and is called hyper inflation. One , two, three, reaDY SET GO ALL TOGETHER NOW FOR COMPETITIVE CURRENCY DEVALUATIONS AND THE HYPER INFLATIONARY CRASH. All central banks devalue currencies at the same time to try to advantage one over the other is a fools game.

        Gold is the barometer, the altimeter, the measuring stick so it must be hammered at all cost and silver too.

        I wonder which will be the last man standing. So far it has always been gold and silver. Any other bets out there?Currency under the bed will be the same as currency in the bank. Zero times fifty equals zero times 100. When the currency goes to zero it does not matter where it is.

        • http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/mining-stock-reports/

          “In total over 5 million ounces worth of paper gold traded during the smash. As of today, the Comex vault operators are reporting only 202.3k ounces of gold to be available for delivery. With no relevant news or events reported, it can only be concluded that the price drop in gold was an attack on the price by entities intent on preventing gold from the process of legitimate price-discovery. Perhaps worse is the fact that Governmental agencies put in place and funded by the Taxpayers to prevent market corruption are either indifferent to or complicit with the market intervention.” –Dave Kransler

          David, here is the basis of a campaign for the public good. A disclosure of the illegal operations to control the overall market place. It is in fact , Criminal as it is against the law as stated but no government agency, charged with defence of the public, is doing their job. In fact they are enrolled as part of the “committee ” (the Presidents working group on financial markets aka the Plunge Protection Team) to oversee the suppression of the markets by the banker elites and governments.

          This suppression enrols the help of the ECB as well as others.

          • And you still want us to put our hard-earned, non-taxed cash into it Tony? Into such a rigged market?

            Beggars belief. I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole. Quite apart from the fact it’s useless metal in the first place. I’m not into bling.

          • Not into bling under the bed for matter.

            I won’t be voting and I won’t be buying gold as a good American:


            Also, it doesn’t matter how many tonnes of gold China hordes. Every man and his dog knows the Yanks are going to tell them to stick their debt notes up their arse when the day of reckoning comes – a unilateral debt jubilee for themselves in the US, and rightly so. Power talks, not pretty metal.

          • I do not say that you should put your personal assets into gold per se. But to know that all is a rigged game including the stocks and bonds and especially the money system.

            As for the US telling China to go fly a kite; that is likely the reason that the Chinese are buying gold rather than buying more US debt. Ditto Russia and the rest of the world.

            China are also buying hard assets around the world. Note the excursion of the Chinese Premier to the UK to fund the building of the next Nuclear power plant. They are investing all around the world and not putting the cash into the banking system.

            All markets are rigged. There is no such thing as a free market. There used to be but not anymore.

  21. Talking about infected markets in the financial arena, how about the market where you buy your food. Herbicides, fungicides and insecticides are poisoning the land and the food. Instead of chasing AFTER GLOBAL CHANGE WE SHOULD CHASE AFTER ALL THESE CROOKS PEDDLING THEIR POISONS.

    Read some of this site and insist on certified organic. Power to the people through the non purchase of poisoned produce.


    Ireland should market its food as certified organic. The whole country in lock step. Producing the most healthy productive people on the planet.

    Read “How the Irish saved Civilization by Thomas Cahill and take pride in your ancestry!!

    The thing is about organics. You can make a difference your self in your own back yard. Get cracking!!!

  22. Guys, get this, you can be summonsed now for calling the President a midget parasite.

    In other words you can be summonsed for telling the truth.


    President my arse, he’s not my President. As DB4545 has noted, I am my own President.

    I don’t need a benefits cheater to represent me, spouting useless poetry out of his ass.

    • I thought for a minute you were referring to POTUS.

      If you are Deemed a terrorist in the US there is no defence. Not even a court case so be careful what you say there. One is just apprehended, not even arrested and then if you are at the whim of the government. No laws to protect the innocent.

      “The most controversial provisions to receive wide attention were contained in subsections 1021–1022 of Title X, Subtitle D, entitled “Counter-Terrorism”, authorizing the indefinite military detention of persons the government suspects of involvement in terrorism, including U.S. citizens arrested on American soil. Although the White House[12] and Senate sponsors[13] maintain that the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) already grants presidential authority for indefinite detention, the Act states that Congress “affirms” this authority and makes specific provisions as to the exercise of that authority”


      I think Canada will get a few more refugees if this act starts to be implemented against its own citizens of the US.

    • coldblow

      I wonder what the truth is about this. Was he to be prosecuted specifically for calling the President a midget parasite or did he call him anything else? Are you allowed to use the word midget these days? Is calling Michael D a midget an insult to a sensitive minority and so would pursuing this case encourage other diminutive people to stand up for themselves (as it were)? If it were to end bullying in schools and perhaps save unnecessary loss of life through suicide Michael D should surely climb up into the witness box and shine a light for truth and justice. To paraphrase Martin Luther King, what matters is not a man’s stature but his character.

      By the way, they definitely have it in for the water protesters. The more I hear about them the more I like them.

  23. DB4545


    I’m at a loss to understand who brought this case to court or why? A complete waste of our money yet again.The little guy was hardly going to sit on a stepladder in the witness box to give evidence and possibly face more ridicule. Any adviser would have alerted him to the potential for comedy and further ridicule.I believe common sense prevailed and it was thrown out on a technicality. If memory serves me right the little guy called some commentator a “wan**r on a media interview some years back.I’m certain any barrister would be sure to use that in defence and request that the little guy should also be charged with engaging in similar behaviour. Farce and a tragic waste of Irish taxpayers money.No surprises there.

    • DB4545


      Jesus you couldn’t make this stuff up. The little fella is so pleased with his own performance that he’s decided he might run for re-election. Apparently he’s consulted other “world leaders” and the feedback is they think he’s wonderful. That’s really big of him. The bizarre thing is that I’d support his re-election. In this crazy Country of ours it’s actually the most tax efficient and patriotic thing that a taxpayer can do. It saves us having to pay his pension and the salary of another “world leader”. Hopefully if he lives long enough and serves two full terms it saves taxpayers even more in pension costs. I think they should raise the minimum age to 80.

  24. Israel at the forefront of medical technology.


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