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		<title>By: joe sod</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156748</link>
		<dc:creator>joe sod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It was as if we’d crucified the man himself and had to repent there and then. I hated it – all that crucifix-kissing and the total absence of joy. In fact, it was the most un-Irish of all days. That much was clear even to a six-year-old.&quot;

I think you are wrong when you say it was the most un-irish of all days. Whether we like it or not catholicism is ingrained in irish culture and history. Yes we went overboard on it when we got independance and gave it too much power. But you cannot now say that it is &quot;un-irish&quot;. Thats what distinguished us from British people afterall throughout history. Our catholicism was one of the driving forces behind independance. Where did the irish earls flee to on losing power but to Rome. It is not fashionable now to point out these facts but it is true. Even if now we no longer go to mass etc in big numbers, the church and ireland are inextricably linked. It would be a mistake to try and airbrush the catholic church out of irish history]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was as if we’d crucified the man himself and had to repent there and then. I hated it – all that crucifix-kissing and the total absence of joy. In fact, it was the most un-Irish of all days. That much was clear even to a six-year-old.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you are wrong when you say it was the most un-irish of all days. Whether we like it or not catholicism is ingrained in irish culture and history. Yes we went overboard on it when we got independance and gave it too much power. But you cannot now say that it is &#8220;un-irish&#8221;. Thats what distinguished us from British people afterall throughout history. Our catholicism was one of the driving forces behind independance. Where did the irish earls flee to on losing power but to Rome. It is not fashionable now to point out these facts but it is true. Even if now we no longer go to mass etc in big numbers, the church and ireland are inextricably linked. It would be a mistake to try and airbrush the catholic church out of irish history</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156707</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Colin

&quot;Its news to me that Jesus is a prophet admired by the Jews. Jews of the time asked for a murderer called Barabbas to be released and for Jesus to be crucified.&quot; end quote

You play along with the age old Antisemitic meme that the Jews killed Jesús. Why? Why does this give you a buzz Colin?

The whole history of this is extremely clouded. What we know for sure is that whoever Jesús was and there is Little of certainty he certainly was a Jew who followed Jewish law.

Of far greater significance is James the brother of Jesús who became leader of the early Church in Jerusalem and the leader of the Jews against the Romans

This is just skimming the Surface but it is interesting there is nearly zero knowledge about this history in Ireland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin</p>
<p>&#8220;Its news to me that Jesus is a prophet admired by the Jews. Jews of the time asked for a murderer called Barabbas to be released and for Jesus to be crucified.&#8221; end quote</p>
<p>You play along with the age old Antisemitic meme that the Jews killed Jesús. Why? Why does this give you a buzz Colin?</p>
<p>The whole history of this is extremely clouded. What we know for sure is that whoever Jesús was and there is Little of certainty he certainly was a Jew who followed Jewish law.</p>
<p>Of far greater significance is James the brother of Jesús who became leader of the early Church in Jerusalem and the leader of the Jews against the Romans</p>
<p>This is just skimming the Surface but it is interesting there is nearly zero knowledge about this history in Ireland</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156705</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Coughlin

&quot;Of course it does. It would act as a real deterrent to Israel. For example; Iran hasn’t invaded anyone in 214 years as for the israelis…………..&quot; end quote


This is the weirdest claim of all and is repeated often by David Icke types.

Who invaded Israel in 1948? The Arabs! Five armies marched against Israel the day after it was declared. Islamic Jihad are Persian but are Jihad!

Your statement is the most nonsensical way of dealing with history. You leave out as if of no significance that Khomeini hijacked the revolution in 1979 and imposed the most brutal regime and the most counter revolutionary regime abroad.

You seem to not take that into account Michael and I am at a loss to understand you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Coughlin</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course it does. It would act as a real deterrent to Israel. For example; Iran hasn’t invaded anyone in 214 years as for the israelis…………..&#8221; end quote</p>
<p>This is the weirdest claim of all and is repeated often by David Icke types.</p>
<p>Who invaded Israel in 1948? The Arabs! Five armies marched against Israel the day after it was declared. Islamic Jihad are Persian but are Jihad!</p>
<p>Your statement is the most nonsensical way of dealing with history. You leave out as if of no significance that Khomeini hijacked the revolution in 1979 and imposed the most brutal regime and the most counter revolutionary regime abroad.</p>
<p>You seem to not take that into account Michael and I am at a loss to understand you.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156703</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Also apparently the previous president of Iran never said he wanted Israel wiped off the map- it was a complete mistranslation of a speech only referring to Israel’s oppression of Gaza. The question is who is to blame for this propaganda?&quot;

You are out of touch. A quick search will reveal thousands certainly hundreds of these bombastic hate filled attacks on Zionism and Israel etc by all levels in Iran. Loudmouths.

But you repeat the lie. And who is to blame but themselves.

The last attack a week ago DURING the negotiations]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also apparently the previous president of Iran never said he wanted Israel wiped off the map- it was a complete mistranslation of a speech only referring to Israel’s oppression of Gaza. The question is who is to blame for this propaganda?&#8221;</p>
<p>You are out of touch. A quick search will reveal thousands certainly hundreds of these bombastic hate filled attacks on Zionism and Israel etc by all levels in Iran. Loudmouths.</p>
<p>But you repeat the lie. And who is to blame but themselves.</p>
<p>The last attack a week ago DURING the negotiations</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Quigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deco
&quot;The problem I have with this is that it absolves the real power brokers in present tense. [ which incidentally seems to be the objective]. It is flogging a dead horse, and then getting up on a corporate donkey.

Another “essential” to pass oneself is to profess love of Guinness, and associate it with Irishness.&quot; (end quote)


But what you mention have always been there in Ireland and therefore are nothing new. You only have to read Joyce and nearly all those writers of his era. So that is nothing new.

So now I ask you a question. We both seem to agree that the modern Media in Ireland is useless. On what is it useless? When did the rot start? I cannot get any precisión dealing with real events in what you write.

For me it is the &quot;Palestinians&quot; of the left that has done for them. They have never reported this in its historical sense. For example when they talked about the refugeres of 1948 they simply lie against the Jews. I can prove this. So they told lies there and never recanted or recovered.

This is important. It means they cannot either report on Islam in the world today which is I hope you will agree rather serious.

Irish Times reporters openly insult &quot;Zionists&quot; as if Zionism was some Nazi type ideology which is the lies of the Soviet Stalinists and Fascists. 

Ireland is a very small and parochial society and these lies are passed around the pubs of Dublín as if they were góspel truth.

So when somebody does challenge these lies there is a tut tut and most significantly SILENCE. Silence is the real killer of truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deco<br />
&#8220;The problem I have with this is that it absolves the real power brokers in present tense. [ which incidentally seems to be the objective]. It is flogging a dead horse, and then getting up on a corporate donkey.</p>
<p>Another “essential” to pass oneself is to profess love of Guinness, and associate it with Irishness.&#8221; (end quote)</p>
<p>But what you mention have always been there in Ireland and therefore are nothing new. You only have to read Joyce and nearly all those writers of his era. So that is nothing new.</p>
<p>So now I ask you a question. We both seem to agree that the modern Media in Ireland is useless. On what is it useless? When did the rot start? I cannot get any precisión dealing with real events in what you write.</p>
<p>For me it is the &#8220;Palestinians&#8221; of the left that has done for them. They have never reported this in its historical sense. For example when they talked about the refugeres of 1948 they simply lie against the Jews. I can prove this. So they told lies there and never recanted or recovered.</p>
<p>This is important. It means they cannot either report on Islam in the world today which is I hope you will agree rather serious.</p>
<p>Irish Times reporters openly insult &#8220;Zionists&#8221; as if Zionism was some Nazi type ideology which is the lies of the Soviet Stalinists and Fascists. </p>
<p>Ireland is a very small and parochial society and these lies are passed around the pubs of Dublín as if they were góspel truth.</p>
<p>So when somebody does challenge these lies there is a tut tut and most significantly SILENCE. Silence is the real killer of truth.</p>
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		<title>By: toml</title>
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		<dc:creator>toml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing positive about Iran &quot;coming in out of the cold&quot;...unless and until they shed their 600AD ideologies.
The student uprisings a few years ago highlighted a desire to join the rest of us in the modern world, politically, socially, equality etc... this isn&#039;t rocket science....why the hell do they need a nuclear program when they&#039;re sitting on so much oil.
And people can complain about Israel all they want, but what they&#039;ve accomplished in 68yrs of existence is amazing...the rest of the middle east should have been taking notes.
I love your articles David, but you&#039;re a little wacked on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing positive about Iran &#8220;coming in out of the cold&#8221;&#8230;unless and until they shed their 600AD ideologies.<br />
The student uprisings a few years ago highlighted a desire to join the rest of us in the modern world, politically, socially, equality etc&#8230; this isn&#8217;t rocket science&#8230;.why the hell do they need a nuclear program when they&#8217;re sitting on so much oil.<br />
And people can complain about Israel all they want, but what they&#8217;ve accomplished in 68yrs of existence is amazing&#8230;the rest of the middle east should have been taking notes.<br />
I love your articles David, but you&#8217;re a little wacked on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Quigley</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156697</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I watched some you tube videos by Ruth R. Wisse. They are very good and google them under &quot;wisse antisemitism&quot;. Please consider doing this if you wish to understand what is happening in today&#039;s world. Politically I am not the same as Wisse but I take things of value from many people and she is very good indeed.

I am also Reading an interview article with a Bill Kristol. I think he is a NeoCon

This raises a quandary that present superficial lefts cannot comprehend. For me I do hate the NeoCons but in this interview I am listening keenly  to the knowledge that Wisse may bring through her researches.

She is always making a point which is relevant to today.

She mentions that Antisemitism began &quot;quite precisely&quot; in the 1870s in Germany. The use of those two words will indicate that she is prepared to back up her observation with researched fact.

She says it began as a &quot;self-defined&quot; movement. Every Word is important here.

She thus is observing as well that this Antisemitism was not the same as the old Christian Church Antisemitism. In fact her words here &quot;they defined themselves politically&quot; have huge weight and consequence as to what was to follow.

She then in this discussion with Kristol (he has Little to contribute by the way) Wisse brings insight into how the Jews can be blamed for everything in moments of great concern.

I think I have just defined there the modern left fascist conspiracy theorists - who are really antisemites - a modern poison which is very prevalent in Ireland.

You will find that article under the same search too in google.

Please spend a Little time trying to grapple with these historical questions and the discussion on this site can only get even better than it is at present and it is often very interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I watched some you tube videos by Ruth R. Wisse. They are very good and google them under &#8220;wisse antisemitism&#8221;. Please consider doing this if you wish to understand what is happening in today&#8217;s world. Politically I am not the same as Wisse but I take things of value from many people and she is very good indeed.</p>
<p>I am also Reading an interview article with a Bill Kristol. I think he is a NeoCon</p>
<p>This raises a quandary that present superficial lefts cannot comprehend. For me I do hate the NeoCons but in this interview I am listening keenly  to the knowledge that Wisse may bring through her researches.</p>
<p>She is always making a point which is relevant to today.</p>
<p>She mentions that Antisemitism began &#8220;quite precisely&#8221; in the 1870s in Germany. The use of those two words will indicate that she is prepared to back up her observation with researched fact.</p>
<p>She says it began as a &#8220;self-defined&#8221; movement. Every Word is important here.</p>
<p>She thus is observing as well that this Antisemitism was not the same as the old Christian Church Antisemitism. In fact her words here &#8220;they defined themselves politically&#8221; have huge weight and consequence as to what was to follow.</p>
<p>She then in this discussion with Kristol (he has Little to contribute by the way) Wisse brings insight into how the Jews can be blamed for everything in moments of great concern.</p>
<p>I think I have just defined there the modern left fascist conspiracy theorists &#8211; who are really antisemites &#8211; a modern poison which is very prevalent in Ireland.</p>
<p>You will find that article under the same search too in google.</p>
<p>Please spend a Little time trying to grapple with these historical questions and the discussion on this site can only get even better than it is at present and it is often very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Quigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is so much very good information by many contributors and some in the article itself. I have to say this first of all. I learned a lot in the comments about India supporting Iran. I had not thought that and need to follow that up. I also learned a lot in the comments by Tony Brogan (I think) on China and how much oil it was buying from Iran. And I think it was David who said that even with the sanctions etc. Iran still stands in the top ten oil exporters. That really did surprise me. What a great point!

The article and comments have been very strong therefore on economics. Since life has an economic base I think that is important and very valuable indeed.

But remember to a leadership like that in Iran economics is a means to an end. It is not - I emphasise - ever the end. To find out what their &quot;end&quot; is we need to spend much more time in an analysis of what motivates Islam, and since this is Shia Islam what motivates this very powerful dictatorship regime staffed by thugs which seized the power from the revolutionary masses in the 1979 Revolution. Tony is so strong on these world economic and paper money aspects and I agree with him and in the end he will be proven correct, but he does not pay half enough attention to this other factor I have just mentioned.

To David though. I point out that to Muslims Jesus was a prophet, but Mohammed was the final prophet, thus this is their way of taking possession of all previous faiths, including Judaism, and moreover you are an infidel if you do not accept their way of looking at things. The Jews disagreed and were wiped out of the Saudi Peninsula. With Muslims you have to check everything twice.

I disagree that the Magdalen laundries was the worst thing that ever happened. It was bad but not as bad as is happening to the Christians and Jews under Islam and in our days. Of which the left and the Churches admonish silence. Motto could be &quot;silence in our times&quot;.

I conclude with this from my profile updated todayand this applies to the usual Irish louts who attack Israel:  &quot;I am disgusted with the present Irish left and want to create a new left which is opposed to Antiisemitism. In this present Irish left the dominant ideology is Antisemitism. To the present Antisemites Israel has taken the place of the old idea of Jew as &quot;the wandering Jew&quot;. Antisemitism is now a major factor in geopolitics as it was in Mein Kamph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much very good information by many contributors and some in the article itself. I have to say this first of all. I learned a lot in the comments about India supporting Iran. I had not thought that and need to follow that up. I also learned a lot in the comments by Tony Brogan (I think) on China and how much oil it was buying from Iran. And I think it was David who said that even with the sanctions etc. Iran still stands in the top ten oil exporters. That really did surprise me. What a great point!</p>
<p>The article and comments have been very strong therefore on economics. Since life has an economic base I think that is important and very valuable indeed.</p>
<p>But remember to a leadership like that in Iran economics is a means to an end. It is not &#8211; I emphasise &#8211; ever the end. To find out what their &#8220;end&#8221; is we need to spend much more time in an analysis of what motivates Islam, and since this is Shia Islam what motivates this very powerful dictatorship regime staffed by thugs which seized the power from the revolutionary masses in the 1979 Revolution. Tony is so strong on these world economic and paper money aspects and I agree with him and in the end he will be proven correct, but he does not pay half enough attention to this other factor I have just mentioned.</p>
<p>To David though. I point out that to Muslims Jesus was a prophet, but Mohammed was the final prophet, thus this is their way of taking possession of all previous faiths, including Judaism, and moreover you are an infidel if you do not accept their way of looking at things. The Jews disagreed and were wiped out of the Saudi Peninsula. With Muslims you have to check everything twice.</p>
<p>I disagree that the Magdalen laundries was the worst thing that ever happened. It was bad but not as bad as is happening to the Christians and Jews under Islam and in our days. Of which the left and the Churches admonish silence. Motto could be &#8220;silence in our times&#8221;.</p>
<p>I conclude with this from my profile updated todayand this applies to the usual Irish louts who attack Israel:  &#8220;I am disgusted with the present Irish left and want to create a new left which is opposed to Antiisemitism. In this present Irish left the dominant ideology is Antisemitism. To the present Antisemites Israel has taken the place of the old idea of Jew as &#8220;the wandering Jew&#8221;. Antisemitism is now a major factor in geopolitics as it was in Mein Kamph.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156695</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In 2015, panelists expect imports to accelerate to a 9.3% expansion. &quot;

http://www.focus-economics.com/countries/china]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In 2015, panelists expect imports to accelerate to a 9.3% expansion. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.focus-economics.com/countries/china" rel="nofollow">http://www.focus-economics.com/countries/china</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/04/07/iran-has-come-in-from-the-cold/comment-page-1#comment-156694</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2015 05:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a very good account of the means of China being able to take out the US at any time of its own choosing.

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/triggers-2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very good account of the means of China being able to take out the US at any time of its own choosing.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.milesfranklin.com/triggers-2" rel="nofollow">http://blog.milesfranklin.com/triggers-2</a></p>
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