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		<title>By: In honour of Greece &#124; FaithinIreland</title>
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		<dc:creator>In honour of Greece &#124; FaithinIreland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] because he&#8217;s a great story teller and his post of a couple of days ago is one of his best. Germans, Greeks, Bob Marley, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Jubilee, Capitalism, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] because he&#8217;s a great story teller and his post of a couple of days ago is one of his best. Germans, Greeks, Bob Marley, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Jubilee, Capitalism, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Flannery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Flannery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about the game being up for Wall Street moneylenders? 

My only criticism of Germany is that it let itself become the debt collector for Wall Street. Shame.

David Stockman is guy with a checkered history both in and out of government. He has a blind eye when it comes to Goldman Sachs et al. He never even mentioned the bondholders.

I believe Yanis understands the real problem and will show the world that that this crisis is not a Greek crisis, it is a Wall Street overreaching crisis. Wall Street and their offices around the world is where the cave-in will have to take place. 

Hopefully Greece will banish the Wall Street moneylenders for ever and other countries will follow. The Greek people will be the first to get ownership of their politicians back. My hat is off to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the game being up for Wall Street moneylenders? </p>
<p>My only criticism of Germany is that it let itself become the debt collector for Wall Street. Shame.</p>
<p>David Stockman is guy with a checkered history both in and out of government. He has a blind eye when it comes to Goldman Sachs et al. He never even mentioned the bondholders.</p>
<p>I believe Yanis understands the real problem and will show the world that that this crisis is not a Greek crisis, it is a Wall Street overreaching crisis. Wall Street and their offices around the world is where the cave-in will have to take place. </p>
<p>Hopefully Greece will banish the Wall Street moneylenders for ever and other countries will follow. The Greek people will be the first to get ownership of their politicians back. My hat is off to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lucey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/02/09/europe-is-now-a-bankocracy/comment-page-1#comment-155538</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Lucey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that elaboration Pat.

Its going to be tough if not impossible to dislodge the so ingrained Money Men.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that elaboration Pat.</p>
<p>Its going to be tough if not impossible to dislodge the so ingrained Money Men.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/02/09/europe-is-now-a-bankocracy/comment-page-1#comment-155536</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 20:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;His bottom line would appear to be that the game is up for the Euro and possibly the EU as the Greeks won’t give in and the Germans won’t give ground.&quot;

It is not what I took out of the essay.
Stockman basically says no matter what happens the economy is toast because of Loose monetary policy of the ECB. This lowered the bond rates, creating huge maladjustment of investment and borrowing. 
The result is exponential growth of debt across all nations including Germany.

There is no future in the EU or Euro unless an autocratic, totalitarian state is accepted by the Europeans. That is the result of Central bank money printing policies, the moral hazard (read corruption) unleashed into the community, The greed of the politicians and the people to want unearned privileges, Resulting in an insurmountable mountain of debt. If the borrower cannot pay then the lender will loose too. 

The future of any people is to live with their means, neither a lender or a borrower be, and to be moral and upright in dealings with each other.

For survival an individual must step aside from such a system and so must a state. Germany became embroiled in Europe and will suffer the consequences of living with drunks and embezzlers. Those that are down will drag you down with them if you get too close. charity begins at home. 

Ireland should, as often repeated, repudiate the onerous debt, (the banking debts assume by bailing out the banks) Create its own currency provided by treasury debt and interest free and pay off the national debt with the new money, Create its own public bank after the North Dakota model promoted by Ellen Brown, Close the central banking system, Reclaim its national assets such as the continental shelf, Lower or eliminate income taxes, and create a fresh start as a proud independent people.

The choice of doing nothing is to be subsumed into the greater union and submerged in suffocating statist governance and destroyed by Central bank profligate printing of money.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. Never was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;His bottom line would appear to be that the game is up for the Euro and possibly the EU as the Greeks won’t give in and the Germans won’t give ground.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is not what I took out of the essay.<br />
Stockman basically says no matter what happens the economy is toast because of Loose monetary policy of the ECB. This lowered the bond rates, creating huge maladjustment of investment and borrowing.<br />
The result is exponential growth of debt across all nations including Germany.</p>
<p>There is no future in the EU or Euro unless an autocratic, totalitarian state is accepted by the Europeans. That is the result of Central bank money printing policies, the moral hazard (read corruption) unleashed into the community, The greed of the politicians and the people to want unearned privileges, Resulting in an insurmountable mountain of debt. If the borrower cannot pay then the lender will loose too. </p>
<p>The future of any people is to live with their means, neither a lender or a borrower be, and to be moral and upright in dealings with each other.</p>
<p>For survival an individual must step aside from such a system and so must a state. Germany became embroiled in Europe and will suffer the consequences of living with drunks and embezzlers. Those that are down will drag you down with them if you get too close. charity begins at home. </p>
<p>Ireland should, as often repeated, repudiate the onerous debt, (the banking debts assume by bailing out the banks) Create its own currency provided by treasury debt and interest free and pay off the national debt with the new money, Create its own public bank after the North Dakota model promoted by Ellen Brown, Close the central banking system, Reclaim its national assets such as the continental shelf, Lower or eliminate income taxes, and create a fresh start as a proud independent people.</p>
<p>The choice of doing nothing is to be subsumed into the greater union and submerged in suffocating statist governance and destroyed by Central bank profligate printing of money.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as a free lunch. Never was.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Flannery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Flannery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike: what Stockman left out of his unduly focused rant on Germany was the part played by his friends at Goldman Sachs. The real question facing Germany and the rest of the world is how to get out of the grasp of the moneylenders. 

Goldman Sachs and its echelon of parasitical bond holder clients are the real terrorists. Everybody is terrified of them. Hopefully the Greeks will highlight the fact that it was Goldman Sachs who almost singlehandedly shepherded Greece into the Eurozone so that it could lend to the Greek Government and send the bill to the German people.

Stockman is right about one thing though, the Germans should have turned on the moneylenders long before now. Hopefully it is not too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: what Stockman left out of his unduly focused rant on Germany was the part played by his friends at Goldman Sachs. The real question facing Germany and the rest of the world is how to get out of the grasp of the moneylenders. </p>
<p>Goldman Sachs and its echelon of parasitical bond holder clients are the real terrorists. Everybody is terrified of them. Hopefully the Greeks will highlight the fact that it was Goldman Sachs who almost singlehandedly shepherded Greece into the Eurozone so that it could lend to the Greek Government and send the bill to the German people.</p>
<p>Stockman is right about one thing though, the Germans should have turned on the moneylenders long before now. Hopefully it is not too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re doing great work there, Michael. Keep it up. Don&#039;t let anyone, least of all me, deter or sway you an iota. I see no hope whatsoever for poor Daithi Eight but you have what it takes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re doing great work there, Michael. Keep it up. Don&#8217;t let anyone, least of all me, deter or sway you an iota. I see no hope whatsoever for poor Daithi Eight but you have what it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lucey</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/02/09/europe-is-now-a-bankocracy/comment-page-1#comment-155525</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Lucey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I imagine the question, what is going to happen here in the EU is on many minds.  Mine certainly!

There looks to be an awful lot going on at the moment, the possible Grexit, France and Germany talking to Russia without the USA / UK and probably a lot more stuff that we have no idea about.

One thing that has been mentioned here and there is the so called satellite evidence Putin holds in relation to what &#039;really&#039; happened on 9/11!  Maybe a load of BS but again!  I imagine it one of his chess pieces that will be moved if and when it suits him.

I have just read, &#039; Europe’s Greek Showdown: The Sum Of All Statist Errors 
by David Stockman • February 10, 2015&#039; 
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/europes-greek-showdown-the-sum-of-all-statist-errors/

It goes into great detail and paints a picture that looks to be the current situation.  He also paints a picture of what will more than likely be the situation.

His bottom line would appear to be that the game is up for the Euro and possibly the EU as the Greeks won&#039;t give in and the Germans won&#039;t give ground.

Do I hear DMark printing presses running at full throttle in the background, it certainly sounds like it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine the question, what is going to happen here in the EU is on many minds.  Mine certainly!</p>
<p>There looks to be an awful lot going on at the moment, the possible Grexit, France and Germany talking to Russia without the USA / UK and probably a lot more stuff that we have no idea about.</p>
<p>One thing that has been mentioned here and there is the so called satellite evidence Putin holds in relation to what &#8216;really&#8217; happened on 9/11!  Maybe a load of BS but again!  I imagine it one of his chess pieces that will be moved if and when it suits him.</p>
<p>I have just read, &#8216; Europe’s Greek Showdown: The Sum Of All Statist Errors<br />
by David Stockman • February 10, 2015&#8242;<br />
<a href="http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/europes-greek-showdown-the-sum-of-all-statist-errors/" rel="nofollow">http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/europes-greek-showdown-the-sum-of-all-statist-errors/</a></p>
<p>It goes into great detail and paints a picture that looks to be the current situation.  He also paints a picture of what will more than likely be the situation.</p>
<p>His bottom line would appear to be that the game is up for the Euro and possibly the EU as the Greeks won&#8217;t give in and the Germans won&#8217;t give ground.</p>
<p>Do I hear DMark printing presses running at full throttle in the background, it certainly sounds like it!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/02/09/europe-is-now-a-bankocracy/comment-page-1#comment-155508</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 06:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do these people use a currency only to be found online and who have a history of not trusting paper money or the banks that use it.

Gold is a common gift at weddings and festivals, and rural Indians who account for almost 60 percent of demand use it as a means of savings because most don’t have bank accounts...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-11/india-smugglers-and-their-bodies-take-a-break-from-gold]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do these people use a currency only to be found online and who have a history of not trusting paper money or the banks that use it.</p>
<p>Gold is a common gift at weddings and festivals, and rural Indians who account for almost 60 percent of demand use it as a means of savings because most don’t have bank accounts&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-11/india-smugglers-and-their-bodies-take-a-break-from-gold" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-11/india-smugglers-and-their-bodies-take-a-break-from-gold</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2015/02/09/europe-is-now-a-bankocracy/comment-page-1#comment-155507</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 05:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Likely he was not invited back as he attacks the party line. He is not politically correct enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likely he was not invited back as he attacks the party line. He is not politically correct enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter Schiff appeared at the first ever Kilkenomics - 2010. On the Friday night. He was very good when talking about economics in general - got a great response from a packed audience. Total goldbug though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Schiff appeared at the first ever Kilkenomics &#8211; 2010. On the Friday night. He was very good when talking about economics in general &#8211; got a great response from a packed audience. Total goldbug though.</p>
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