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	<title>Comments on: The World Slows &amp; Euro Crisis Far From Over</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great notes, David, on China, the US, and EU - Germany &amp; France.

One big thing missing: too much spending by gov&#039;t.  The problem of deficits is 100% too much spending over the business cycle.

Related point: politicians who promise more responsible spending, i.e. less spending, do NOT usually get elected.  This is because voters want, and vote for, the &quot;free lunch&quot; goodies the (lying) politicians promise them.  With support of the big-gov&#039;t media.

Until voters choose responsible small gov&#039;t leaders, the excess debt problems will continue festering and being such a big problem there is little economic growth.


Finally, every gov&#039;t, including Greece &amp; Germany, could reduce their &quot;market&quot; debt by paying bills with 1 year, 0% interest, Bearer Bonds.  &quot;Borrowing&quot; from those who first receive gov&#039;t benefits.  They should include the caveat that such bonds will be accepted at 100% value as tax payments.

Germany should do this, and then demand that Greece also does it; and all EU gov&#039;ts could do this, to avoid external debt default.  And, if the internal businesspeople are NOT required to accept these bonds as payment, the bonds are not &quot;legal tender&quot; in violation of the EUzone agreements.

Yet, if the local business do accept them, at some 20% discount or so, the Bonds act a lot like base Money.

I support a return to the Gold standard, but doubt it will happen and continually look for other, more realistic ways to constrain the overspending of gov&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great notes, David, on China, the US, and EU &#8211; Germany &amp; France.</p>
<p>One big thing missing: too much spending by gov&#8217;t.  The problem of deficits is 100% too much spending over the business cycle.</p>
<p>Related point: politicians who promise more responsible spending, i.e. less spending, do NOT usually get elected.  This is because voters want, and vote for, the &#8220;free lunch&#8221; goodies the (lying) politicians promise them.  With support of the big-gov&#8217;t media.</p>
<p>Until voters choose responsible small gov&#8217;t leaders, the excess debt problems will continue festering and being such a big problem there is little economic growth.</p>
<p>Finally, every gov&#8217;t, including Greece &amp; Germany, could reduce their &#8220;market&#8221; debt by paying bills with 1 year, 0% interest, Bearer Bonds.  &#8220;Borrowing&#8221; from those who first receive gov&#8217;t benefits.  They should include the caveat that such bonds will be accepted at 100% value as tax payments.</p>
<p>Germany should do this, and then demand that Greece also does it; and all EU gov&#8217;ts could do this, to avoid external debt default.  And, if the internal businesspeople are NOT required to accept these bonds as payment, the bonds are not &#8220;legal tender&#8221; in violation of the EUzone agreements.</p>
<p>Yet, if the local business do accept them, at some 20% discount or so, the Bonds act a lot like base Money.</p>
<p>I support a return to the Gold standard, but doubt it will happen and continually look for other, more realistic ways to constrain the overspending of gov&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: A few thoughts on the state of the global economy. &#124; ON MY HORIZON</title>
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		<dc:creator>A few thoughts on the state of the global economy. &#124; ON MY HORIZON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This is well worth 8 minutes 9 seconds:Â http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2012/07/09/punk-economics-5-the-world-slows-euro-crisis-far-from-over [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is well worth 8 minutes 9 seconds:Â http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2012/07/09/punk-economics-5-the-world-slows-euro-crisis-far-from-over [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellently presented piece again.
 
I wouldn&#039;t blame the shoppers by the way since they can expect our economists to look after the macro economy the same was they can expect our structural engineers to ensure the shopping centre doesn&#039;t fall down.

If buildings collapsed periodically, engineers would look to the foundations and when economies collapse periodically economics should be no different. 

At the foundation of the economy is the creation and destruction of the lifeblood of the economy - Money. It is our commercial banks which create money, as accounting entries, through loans and we cannot ignore the fact that every euro has a corresponding debt as a result. Our banks also destroy this money as loans are repaid which is why reducing our debts doesn&#039;t leave us in a better position.

Under this system the debt crisis can&#039;t be resolved. If we get more money for growth, we have equally more debt. If we pay off our debts, the money no longer exists.

The only way to keep this system going is for us to take on more debt from banks than we repay. In recent decades this has been achieved through mortgages taking longer and longer to repay. However, having reached their natural limit of taking two concurrent careers to repay we can no longer expect house buyers to prop up this system any longer. 

We could resolve the debt crisis overnight by restoring the money creation process to a public institution. We could also stop banks from deleting money a number of different ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellently presented piece again.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t blame the shoppers by the way since they can expect our economists to look after the macro economy the same was they can expect our structural engineers to ensure the shopping centre doesn&#8217;t fall down.</p>
<p>If buildings collapsed periodically, engineers would look to the foundations and when economies collapse periodically economics should be no different. </p>
<p>At the foundation of the economy is the creation and destruction of the lifeblood of the economy &#8211; Money. It is our commercial banks which create money, as accounting entries, through loans and we cannot ignore the fact that every euro has a corresponding debt as a result. Our banks also destroy this money as loans are repaid which is why reducing our debts doesn&#8217;t leave us in a better position.</p>
<p>Under this system the debt crisis can&#8217;t be resolved. If we get more money for growth, we have equally more debt. If we pay off our debts, the money no longer exists.</p>
<p>The only way to keep this system going is for us to take on more debt from banks than we repay. In recent decades this has been achieved through mortgages taking longer and longer to repay. However, having reached their natural limit of taking two concurrent careers to repay we can no longer expect house buyers to prop up this system any longer. </p>
<p>We could resolve the debt crisis overnight by restoring the money creation process to a public institution. We could also stop banks from deleting money a number of different ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool Tony! Do you have a blog?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Tony! Do you have a blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Josey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three points:

1. James O&#039;Reilly and his conflict of interests....seriouly WTF is he doing still in government????

2. Adam Clayton using our legal system for free ( he pays no taxes here ) to get his accountant sent down for 7 yrs.

3. Sean Quinn and co. off-shoring 500million euro to russian accounts...being held in contempt of court.....he walks free....again WTF???????


A seriously enraged citizen!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three points:</p>
<p>1. James O&#8217;Reilly and his conflict of interests&#8230;.seriouly WTF is he doing still in government????</p>
<p>2. Adam Clayton using our legal system for free ( he pays no taxes here ) to get his accountant sent down for 7 yrs.</p>
<p>3. Sean Quinn and co. off-shoring 500million euro to russian accounts&#8230;being held in contempt of court&#8230;..he walks free&#8230;.again WTF???????</p>
<p>A seriously enraged citizen!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David McWilliams &#187; Since the summit, it&#8217;s the Germans against the rest</title>
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		<dc:creator>David McWilliams &#187; Since the summit, it&#8217;s the Germans against the rest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a new way of looking at global economic trends, look at Punk Economics 5 on YouTube.             tweetmeme_url = [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a new way of looking at global economic trends, look at Punk Economics 5 on YouTube.             tweetmeme_url = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great review in itself, whoever the psychologist that wrote it is (couldn&#039;t find a name). I think I&#039;ll order a copy of the book. Cheers Deco.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great review in itself, whoever the psychologist that wrote it is (couldn&#8217;t find a name). I think I&#8217;ll order a copy of the book. Cheers Deco.</p>
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		<title>By: Deco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Irish concept of lifestyle, is now up for compromise with reality. Young wans going to Austalia for month long binge drinking sessions, ESB workers driving swanky new motors, and office workers blowing a years savings on the worst soccer team in the tournament are about to meet some pretty serious hard science. Talking about &quot;pride&quot; is about to go from being an absurdity, to being completely ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Irish concept of lifestyle, is now up for compromise with reality. Young wans going to Austalia for month long binge drinking sessions, ESB workers driving swanky new motors, and office workers blowing a years savings on the worst soccer team in the tournament are about to meet some pretty serious hard science. Talking about &#8220;pride&#8221; is about to go from being an absurdity, to being completely ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Deco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James Howard Kunstler, social and economic commentator in the Us has a book out. 

http://peakoil.com/generalideas/review-of-j-h-kunstlers-too-much-magic/

We see some of the comments here about the suburban lifestyle ethic, with a life centred around the mall, persistent distraction from the flat screen TV, endless credit driven trajectories to absurdity, escapism, and nostalgia. 

And I ask myself, are we not on the same trajectory.  

Behaviour breeds results, and the east of the country spent ten years in the American dream, and maybe places like Cork or Galway had it for shorter time periods. Now we see the results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Howard Kunstler, social and economic commentator in the Us has a book out. </p>
<p><a href="http://peakoil.com/generalideas/review-of-j-h-kunstlers-too-much-magic/" rel="nofollow">http://peakoil.com/generalideas/review-of-j-h-kunstlers-too-much-magic/</a></p>
<p>We see some of the comments here about the suburban lifestyle ethic, with a life centred around the mall, persistent distraction from the flat screen TV, endless credit driven trajectories to absurdity, escapism, and nostalgia. </p>
<p>And I ask myself, are we not on the same trajectory.  </p>
<p>Behaviour breeds results, and the east of the country spent ten years in the American dream, and maybe places like Cork or Galway had it for shorter time periods. Now we see the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Brogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry
I rode on the road!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry<br />
I rode on the road!</p>
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