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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re all fools if we think recovery plan is patriotic</title>
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		<title>By: paddyjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddyjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The markets will show us where the cracks are there is nothing like putting your money where your mouth is. Banks will be the first to show .... watch our banks dropping until they become worthless. Indeed banks throughout europe will see their values drop as the realisation that debt is like a cancer in our societies. There is no way out for countries like Ireland where personal, company and national debt will cripple us for generations to come. Its time to start working off the debt while interest rates are low. Cutting public spending is the first step, that means more public sector pay cuts, more social welfare cuts, cuts to quangos etc etc.
We all too must start paying off those mortgages early, cutting down the credit card spend and get back to the basics we enjoy. 
When will the markets decide that they are not going to provide any more money for government bonds that day is coming soon. Before then the cost of borrowing will increase, again the market will show us this first.
I believe it is the market whether it is the housing market, the stock market or the bond market which will show the first signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The markets will show us where the cracks are there is nothing like putting your money where your mouth is. Banks will be the first to show &#8230;. watch our banks dropping until they become worthless. Indeed banks throughout europe will see their values drop as the realisation that debt is like a cancer in our societies. There is no way out for countries like Ireland where personal, company and national debt will cripple us for generations to come. Its time to start working off the debt while interest rates are low. Cutting public spending is the first step, that means more public sector pay cuts, more social welfare cuts, cuts to quangos etc etc.<br />
We all too must start paying off those mortgages early, cutting down the credit card spend and get back to the basics we enjoy.<br />
When will the markets decide that they are not going to provide any more money for government bonds that day is coming soon. Before then the cost of borrowing will increase, again the market will show us this first.<br />
I believe it is the market whether it is the housing market, the stock market or the bond market which will show the first signs.</p>
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		<title>By: John ALLEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>John ALLEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you are saying is that every man woman and child is being indentured into Slavery for ALL  their lives. wills this is Criminal .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you are saying is that every man woman and child is being indentured into Slavery for ALL  their lives. wills this is Criminal .</p>
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		<title>By: wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posters.

NAMA is a scam to keep debts on ice and ensure the debts of the little people are NOT written down BUT the debts of the elite mentalists ARE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posters.</p>
<p>NAMA is a scam to keep debts on ice and ensure the debts of the little people are NOT written down BUT the debts of the elite mentalists ARE.</p>
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		<title>By: wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John ALLEN.
Yep.
The political machinery and banking machinery and meeja machinery and educational machinery is under the control of a sort that suffers delusions of grandeur and dynastic right of ownership mentalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John ALLEN.<br />
Yep.<br />
The political machinery and banking machinery and meeja machinery and educational machinery is under the control of a sort that suffers delusions of grandeur and dynastic right of ownership mentalism.</p>
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		<title>By: John ALLEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>John ALLEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wills  -  so you are saying The Minister for Finance  is NOT Patriotic ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wills  &#8211;  so you are saying The Minister for Finance  is NOT Patriotic ?</p>
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		<title>By: wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posters.
NAMA is a mechanism to seize a &#039;stack of debts&#039; and keep the debts alive and safe from ever been erased.

So, when the &#039;stack of debts&#039; are quarantined and safe locked from been erased the banks will be immediately nationalized.

The banks were not nationalized before the stack of debt got moved into warehousing. If banks were nationalized with the &#039;stack of debts&#039; alongside we may have witnessed the gov under pressure writing the debts off.

And this of course must not happen. The powers at be cannot let the idea of debts been erased from banks books get out into the public domain cos jill and joe schmo will start thinking &quot;hey, erase my debt too please.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posters.<br />
NAMA is a mechanism to seize a &#8216;stack of debts&#8217; and keep the debts alive and safe from ever been erased.</p>
<p>So, when the &#8216;stack of debts&#8217; are quarantined and safe locked from been erased the banks will be immediately nationalized.</p>
<p>The banks were not nationalized before the stack of debt got moved into warehousing. If banks were nationalized with the &#8216;stack of debts&#8217; alongside we may have witnessed the gov under pressure writing the debts off.</p>
<p>And this of course must not happen. The powers at be cannot let the idea of debts been erased from banks books get out into the public domain cos jill and joe schmo will start thinking &#8220;hey, erase my debt too please.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: paddythepig</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddythepig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the carry trade in currency markets a good thing for the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the carry trade in currency markets a good thing for the world?</p>
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		<title>By: Dilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As they say on the interweb ...   LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they say on the interweb &#8230;   LOL</p>
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		<title>By: wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.
I received tin tin o tooles book for christmas.

Am reading. It is highly recommended reading.

Fintan peels the layers of the POnzi Rep onion peels and peels and peels unrelenting as he peels.

Ship of fools outlays the crony liars code out on the page a child can read.

Buy it, borrow it and weep with joy the truth is rising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.<br />
I received tin tin o tooles book for christmas.</p>
<p>Am reading. It is highly recommended reading.</p>
<p>Fintan peels the layers of the POnzi Rep onion peels and peels and peels unrelenting as he peels.</p>
<p>Ship of fools outlays the crony liars code out on the page a child can read.</p>
<p>Buy it, borrow it and weep with joy the truth is rising.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Deco - with you entirely on thpse back pages and who is moving where within business circles.

Business run society as my mate Chomsky always says.

I wonder if I &#039;blew&#039; millions in my job would my bosses or the media deem it controversial.

I wonder if I hit my wife over the head with a brick would I get six years.

As they always said the poor are mad, the rich are eccentric.

It is some world - we need a rising.

Refused to buy Fintan&#039;s book, won&#039;t buy Shane Ross&#039;, these guys are all part of the same system they rail against, so resign from the Irish Times, resign from the Senate, do something else - not a chance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Deco &#8211; with you entirely on thpse back pages and who is moving where within business circles.</p>
<p>Business run society as my mate Chomsky always says.</p>
<p>I wonder if I &#8216;blew&#8217; millions in my job would my bosses or the media deem it controversial.</p>
<p>I wonder if I hit my wife over the head with a brick would I get six years.</p>
<p>As they always said the poor are mad, the rich are eccentric.</p>
<p>It is some world &#8211; we need a rising.</p>
<p>Refused to buy Fintan&#8217;s book, won&#8217;t buy Shane Ross&#8217;, these guys are all part of the same system they rail against, so resign from the Irish Times, resign from the Senate, do something else &#8211; not a chance!</p>
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