Debt in the desert shows how we must not proceed

November 29, 2009


The default of Dubai World – announced on Thanksgiving Day, when most Americans were on holiday – showed us what the second leg of this great crisis was all about.

The financial markets’ reaction indicated that many believed that, rather than being an isolated incident, this default in Dubai – for so long, the poster boy of globalisation – might be the beginning of a new domino effect of defaults all around the exposed parts of the world.

I say ‘exposed’ parts of the world because a new trend is developing, as the ramifications of the great 2008 crash become more evident. We are moving into a phase where the relative position of companies and countries is being closely looked at.

In the crisis, a ‘blanket’ rescue operation was mounted – the good and the bad were treated with equal generosity. The world’s central banks, because they were worried about systemic risk – which is a complicated way of saying ‘‘the bad boys will drag down the good boys’’ – treated everyone the same. Money was printed and thrown at everyone, everywhere, in the hope that the system would not seize up.

Now that the system has been saved – or at least looks more robust than many imagined possible this time last year – it is time to become more discriminating. Financial history reveals that all economic crises go through various stages.

Typically, there are periods of calm, when people think the worst is over and then, wham, something else happens, triggering another decline. In the discriminating as opposed to the blanket phase, investors consider who is really delinquent and who can be salvaged.

This time around, the discriminating phase has been made all the more acute by the fact that the central banks – and the ECB in particular – have warned the fragile banks that the taps will be turned off soon.

The realisation of this in Greece last week caused a huge sell-off in the stock market there. No one seems to have reminded us that the Irish banks are much more dependent on the ECB’s daily largesse than the Greeks.

It is ridiculous to think that countries and companies carrying huge debts, borrowed in the good times, will be able to pay them all. There are a few hard rules of economics, one of which is that debts that can’t be paid won’t be paid. The sooner the creditors realise this, the better for everyone.

All over the world, borrowers are doing deals with lenders to restructure debts. Many major companies – Independent News & Media is an Irish example – have done debt/equity swaps with creditors, giving them shares instead of cash, thus ensuring that the company, its creditors and existing shareholders live to fight another day.

This is what adults do in a crisis: they make the best deal possible. Only fanatics carry on as if nothing has happened, promising to honour all debts and never to renegotiate. So when we hear our government suggesting that our crippled taxpayers can pay all the debts incurred by our bankers, the world knows we are spoofing.

This type of behaviour scares people, and leads to capital flight. When capital leaves a country, it doesn’t come back until there is an event that signals that the game has changed and the boil has been lanced.

One event would be a change in the management at the top of the banks. It is hard to overestimate the damage that has been done by the failure to appoint outsiders to the top positions of our banks.

I was chatting to a serious investor from New York the other day who despaired of the situation. Two years into the problem, we have no new management and the only outsider in the Irish banking scene is the new boss of Anglo, who was brought in after nationalisation.

Next year, there is likely to be a significant re-rating of countries and companies.

What the Dubai default indicates is that the bond market was asleep. It didn’t see this coming. Dubai, like Ireland, went on a binge over the past ten years, using other people’s money to build whatever and wherever it could. Now Dubai can’t pay it back.

Let’s just do some back of the envelope calculations for Ireland to see whether we are hurtling down the Dubai route. How much money do we owe and how will the financial markets regard us next year – particularly after the Dubai default?

Let’s start with the banks. Last year, they borrowed €135billion abroad to fund their lending here. With ECB help in the past year, flogging a few assets, the figure probably stands at about €120 billion. Government debt, according to the National Treasury Management Agency, stands at €73 billion.

Together that is €208 billion; being generous we can call it €200 billion. Averaging interest at 5 per cent means the interest payment on this is €10 billion per annum. In the past few months, when millions seem to have slipped into billions, and nobody can grasp how big the number is, let’s just remind ourselves that €10 billion is enough to build nine Luas lines in our cities or enough to give every worker in the country a pay rise of €90 a week.

Remember this €10 billion is just the interest to be paid every year. The principal may have to be repaid eventually too.

But the people repaying this €10 billion each year are also the people paying interest on their own debts, because private sector debt stands at €378 billion.

Again, allowing 5 per cent interest (but it is probably higher in most cases), this leads to annual interest payments of €18.9 billion – 17 Luas lines and €170.10 per worker in the economy per week. Presuming that the interest payments on the private debt are covering the banks’ debt, we can add the €378 billion of private sector debts to the national debt of €73 billion and now add Nama loans of €54 billion just for good measure.

This gives us a total debt of €505 billion Once again, allowing for 5 per cent interest, we get total interest payments that have to be generated from Ireland every year of €25.1 billion per annum. That’s how much cash will leave the country in interest payments on loans next year.

This means that the first €225 earned by every worker every week in this country will be earned simply to pay the huge debts. Now what are we going to do about this? With these figures, default is obviously on the horizon.

Should we renegotiate now or allow the thing to blow up like Dubai? I can’t answer this, but it’s interesting to see what the Bible has to say. The Bible reveals that debt cycles, defaults and debtors getting into trouble are stories that are as old as the hills. In Deuteronomy, chapter 15, verses 1 and 2, the Bible says: “At the end of every seven years thou shalt make a release . . . Every creditor that lendeth unto his neighbour shall release it; he shall not exact it of his neighbour or of his brother because it is called the Lord’s release.”

At least if we do ’fess up and begin to renegotiate our debts, we might have the consolation of knowing that God is on our side.




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  1. Tull McAdoo says:

    I’ve only been able to pick up bits of this story, but I have to admit it is starting to annoy me.
    It seems, that the initial bailout of the Banks involved some billions of Euro and that these loans were to pay an annual coupon or interest of 8% , which should have seen us get a return on our so called investment of some 500 million euro per annum. There was also the provision with these preference shares to be converted to ordinary shares if deemed necessary, with a provision for extra shares to compensate for any loss on the coupon/interest account, with a buy back for the Bank up to 5 year from now etc.etc.
    Linehan and Fahey and Hanafin etc. told us that this was a great deal, iron clad, with extra provisions in place to safeguard the taxpayer and give great return on investment with the potential uplift ( fahey) if bank shares should rise in the future. I’m sure ye all remember the spin and hoopla that surrounded this initial bailout. I kinda figured this 500 million would be very useful in these times and was looking forward to seeing it turn up in the budget as earned income of some sort.
    Sorry but all is not well on the old bailout front as it seems the ECB have been talking to our “systemic “ banks and told them that they need not pay out on the coupons ( our bloody 8%) unless there are legal agreements in place to force them to pay out. YES ye have guessed it , the dumbass gombeen gobshites that negotiated our loans to the banks forgot to include a legal provision that made sure we got FUK..ing
    PAID. Jesus Christ on a pushbike if it were the banks making the loan s, we would be up to our tits in personal guarantees, life insurances, fire ,theft any any other provision they could drag out to clamp our goolies with.
    So where are we now Tull, you black Swan from South Kerry, well it seems that our preference shares are about to be transformed into ordinary shares with a few extra thrown in to compensate for the loss of coupon, at a price from some months ago. This puts a huge spanner in the works should any of these zombies need to be nationalised after Christmas which seems more than likely, it also puts us on the hook with ordinary shareholders with regard to absorbing losses ahead of the Bondholders or Senior debt, even though these Seniors et al were not prepared to do any bailing awhile back ( remember the debt/equity swap idea). Were basically about to piss away more good money to help these Bas.ard Banks repair their balance sheets. I am now convinced just like Deco that the only way Cowen and his entire front bench can sleep at night is in a “drunken stupor”. Jasus they are either useless beyond belief or totally corrupt or both.

    • wills says:

      Tull:

      Don’t forget re writing the write down on BoI toxic debts from 18% too 25%. Thus requiring 1 billion back stop from taxpayers xtra, and merely the 7 news headline in on RTE 6 news.

      If one looks at Gold going too 1200 dollars right now one is looking at the dollar going south.

      Perhaps the central bank powers know the dollar is done and they reckon they can do whatever they choose cos the reserve currency / global fiat money scam is re inventing itself behind the scenes and the plays underway are all based on this inside information.

      Also, OBOMBA sending 30,000 troops too afghan is another diversion announcement from copenhagen, and Gold going too 12oo dollars which is a hugely significant event.

      On the troops, USA are surrounding IRAN thats the geopolitic truth the mainstream news will not report.

      USA are going all out too control the middle east resources – oil and IRAN are been put under no doubts USA are ready too put Iran in its box.

      In 10 mins the geopolitic game s will take a left turn and tomorrow current events will flow in an new direction.

      USA, also, are using their military muscle NOW to, i think, buttress the dollar from plunging now that the fed and comex manipulation on GOLD keeping it dead duck is itself dead.

      I reckon the central banking establishment are not done with the dolllar yet and are trying to avert its premature demise/,,

      So, GOLD going through the roof may undo their fake green tyranny earth gov scam in the coming months.

      • Josey says:

        Wills you’re nailing it.

        Gold is predicted by many to go to $5000 an ounce. This is due to the collapse of the Dollar of course but also the fact that India, China and Germany are buying up swades of bullion from the IMF, I’m talking hundreds of tonnes. So it would appear they are securing themselves from fiat currencies.

        Regarding Obama, I thought he promised to end the Wars and close Guantanamo…hmmmm might he have made false promises just to get into power?

        What else…???

        The Swizz vote to stop the islamification of their Country, defending their culture to the shock of the EU and UN.

        Climategate shows man-made global warming is fake.

        The new EU President has called 2009 the first year of global governance…

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1qTPvugqgg

        There’s no way I’m paying a carbon tax!!!!!

  2. Josey says:

    Max Keiser in classic form breaking down the Dubai collapse;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSWSwhn-AWc&feature=player_embedded

    Oh why has the truth and justice been taken from us…..sigh!!

  3. Josey says:

    The USA imports 2/3 of it’s energy needs….the Dollar is collapsing…..to continue to buy said energy USA will have to pay more $$$s….they will eventually not be able to afford to buy as much energy….this will lead to less fuel being available to transport goods….leading to food shortages.

    Will Uncle Sam sit idlely by and allow this happen?

    The USA still has the biggest military and a lot of big bombs.

  4. John ALLEN says:

    Tim – fantastic blogging on your part re: above analysis.

    It would be nice if Paul and Furrylugs and Andrew were to join into this forum before Christmas .

  5. John ALLEN says:

    Wage Pact – I cannot believe our webbed feet B&B have caved in to the Bearded Men .This for me is the final straw that Definately Ireland Teo is breaking away from the Euro Basket .
    I am reminded again what I said last year about kids on the Slide in the fun park just in front of my office .When you begin to slide you cannot stop even if you want to or even if the concerned parents want them to .They must Experience the descent and with speed and this descent continues on and on and on ….until the bottom is reached and only then will Ireland Teo begin to realise where they really are and there will be a long time after that before they will be able to agree to know what to do next .By then the Fun Park might be closed for renovations.

  6. tony_murphy says:

    Climategate on Matt Cooper on TodayFM

    Ken Ring just blow cover on lies to everyone who was listening

    https://www.predictweather.co.nz/

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