I agree; our problem soon, however, is that this is the same ideology that the Lisbon Treaty sucks us into: globalised free market. Articles 113-118. So, do we vote yes to get the ECB to save us from the damage this ideology has conspired to cause, or do we vote no to try and free ourselves from being locked into the next crisis – and it WILL come, because the ideologues are hell-bent on reviving the same old system.

I have been trying to discern from the treaty itself, but am thusfar unsuccessful, if there is any truth to the “No” campaign’s assertion that a “yes” will mean that we agree to never again being allowed to vote in a referndum on any future changes the EU bureaucrats want to introduce.

Can anyone help with this, please?

sign up for this event and keep an eye on the grassroots campaign that Money & Markets are suggesting. This is what I was making a heartfelt plea to David about in a different post: -

Give us a beach-head or a piece of ground to defend that we all gather around and say no further. Taxpayers’ money is our money. For Gods’ sake, let some big ships sink (they’ve taken enough water, thank you) and let’s get the pain out of the way and get back to real wealth production and at the same time review our credit production systems with a view to separating retail banking from all other obscene activities.

http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/financial-terrorism-and-you-32944

The 2 Brians play at being Mr Angry, just like Gordon Brown and Barack Obama, a few token gestures and sacrificial lambs here and there. The punters, especially the ones who are desperately exposed to the property market falling off a cliff, lap it up like dumb puppies.

Maybe we’ll even get Neary’s payoff back! That would balance the books nicely. But what about Liam O’Reilly and what about FF frontbenchers who oversaw this charade?

There’s no fools. If people vote again for emperors with no clothes, they’ll get exactly what, and maybe more than, they deserve . . . . And that goes for FG too. Same hymnsheet, just different payslips/ bank accounts

On the credit/utility,. in ref to our taxpayers money tied up in banks, i can only say this,. get busy undoing the arrangements and reverse about turn the cash into the state coffers.

We set up the public banking system, irrespective to everything else. The gov hold the constitutional legal charge to coin currency and credit and should just get with it and implement.

Now that i would say is putting your cards on the table,. as is JIm below doing…. the picture on this credit crunch is becoming clearer and clearer by the day and it ain’t pretty,..

Can i suggest though the following….. on this bleak picture we are been served up day after day after day,..

First, negative self interest is on show in all its ugliness, fully exposed, the rot behind the slick is there for all who want to see it for what it is.. some suspected its scale but now we know,.!!

I suggest this is a positive step,. we are all the wiser coming out of this, albeit poorer,.. human behaviour in all its vice is now revealing itself in full disclosure,.. in all the sectors of society,.. and we are finding we are living amongst more maniacs than we thought was ever possible… we are living on planet of the apes….

Now that we know the truth we can do something effective about it,.. this is significant,..