November 20, 2006

In Search Of The Pope’s Children: Episode 3

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Part 3 of the award winning series, In Search Of The Popes Children.
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Part 1

Part 2

Vorsprung Durch Kredit

The final episode of “In Search Of The Pope’s Children” will be aired tonight at 9.30 on RTE1.
In this programme David takes us back to learn some lessons from history. What is stable today can change dramatically tomorrow, David poses the questions about a ‘plan B’ for Ireland going forward – how are we going to deal with china? With immigration? And with increasing monthly mortgage repayments?

The programme also explores how we have gone from being a country with too many people and not enough money to a country of not enough people and too much credit. David uncovers our seemly endless supply of credit and takes us to Germany to introduce us to the hero of the Irish economic boom.

He examines our economic relationship with Europe and the US and explains how our madness for property has sucked most of the resources out of the economy elbowing out investment in other ventures such as research and development. With 87% of our all our exports generated by multinationals the boardrooms of New York will have more of an impact on the fortunes of the Irish economy that Dail Eireann.

David travels to Venice to see how in the past Venice used a combination of aggressive trading, freethinking, smart alliances and individual creativity to drive itself forward to be the richest state in the world for over three hundred years. Like Ireland today, Venice found itself stuck between two great powers of the day and rather than making one choice the Venetians traded one against the other, in much the same way that Ireland has been playing with Europe and the US for the past thirty years.

  1. Hi David

    I’m watching your Pope’s Children programme just now and I have to take issue with you presenting AVOCA as a quality store, selling nothing but quality goods. This is not true. I’ve been to Avoca (in Suffolk Street, Dublin) and I saw for myself that they sell mass-produced goods, such as pretty nice-flowery delph teapots, which whilst they look pretty and actually quite tacky and no doubt very cheaply made in some third-world/developing country – possibly even Celtic-Tiger Ireland itself?!

    Also, I would like to say that Celtic-Tiger Ireland is not so different from Holy-Catholic Ireland – its simply a continuation of the same materialistic system/status quo. Yes, organised religion is actually all about money – and deluding the masses. But sure, you know that already – wink!

    Its only a matter of time when the Celtic Tiger will collapse because its just an illusion – like religious dogma itself!


  2. David, great show tonight, really enjoyed it. Congratulations on the series as a whole, I’m sure the DVDs will fly off the shelves. I’ll be buying a few for those relatives that have been telling me that rent is dead money anyway!

  3. Fergus

    Just finished watching and although I was fearing dire predictions in this the final episode of your very fine series the suggestion of a Venetian solution to our unique position almost sounds plausible.However I do not think that our elected representatives are either “brave” or “courageous” enough to take the measures necessary to get us there !
    For a snapshot of how incapable they are of dealing with thorny issues it is only necessary to see how far off the target for Kyoto we are at present and yet the number of SUV’s on road soars and the ultimate solution ( Nuclear) is still a distant blip on the agenda ( sorry!)


    Fergus K

  4. Mark


    I must follow the other comments above and offer my sincerest congratulations on quality, timeliness and incisiveness the TV series. It was excellently presnented and thoroughly enjoyable.

    My only real criticism would be that the labels and niches you presented to us on the series, such as the yummy-mummy hicos and the DIY Delcans are perhaps caricatures which are exclusive to the Pale. Your attempt to graft these (undoubtedly existing) personages onto the entire nation is evidence, in my opinion, of a Dublin-centric naivety which was all pervasive through the series.

    While the wealth of the Celtic Tiger has reached all parts of the Republic, I do not believe the social elitism and cosmopolitan wannabe-ism of the capital has reached beyond the commuter belt. Certainly, the incomes of people in Limerick, Cork and Galway has seen the same increase as the captial, but I do not believe the same level of aspirational delusion as exemplified by DIY Dec and the nauseatingly elitist HiCo cannot be applied to provincial Ireland.

    If you had perhaps interviewed more people from around the country, from different cities, from more country towns, a more balanced picture of the change of lifestyle of the nation might have been presented. To be honest, all we got was a number of (very amusing!) Dart-land characters whose whole mode de vie would be anathema to the MAJORITY of Irish people who live beyond Dublin commuter land. Notwithstanding the undounted prominence of the capital in national life, it does not represent the entire country. A couple of token interviews from ‘the country’ is not sufficient if your programme wished to speak for all of Ireland.

    Kind regards,

    Mark O’C

  5. Mark

    Typo correction for the above comment:

    In the second last line of the third paragraph, it should read “..the nauseatingly elitist HiCo CAN be applied…” instead of ‘cannot’.

    Apologies for my sloppy, rushed, writing! Regards. M

  6. Congratulations on both your book and the show which provide an insight as profound and original as any I’ve had the benefit of experiencing on our current geopolitical and economic landscape.
    Regards, S.

  7. Fergus K, Couple of comment in relation to our elected representatives are not being either “brave” or “courageous” enough to take steps towards the Venetian solution.

    Firstly, we have an election in 6 months time, it’s up to our citizens to be both brave and courageous too and not vote solely in our individual short term self interests. We’ll get the government we deserve!

    Secondly, while I may not credit our elected officials with much at times, they’re nothing if not dogged in their pursuit of power, if they can be shown that the Venetian solution is the way forward and they can take credit for it’s implementation and success then I’ve no doubt that is what they’ll do. Though it might take a couple of years worth of dilly-dallying, fact finding missions to China and an army of consultants.

  8. Steve


    I missed episode three – is it being repeated??

  9. “The bubble is about to burst” is a brave concept to discuss so openly when we are all enjoying a boom time in our economic lives. You are right to instill a sense of nervousness in our minds as living for today could mean suffering tomorrow when times become harder again.

    The cycle will inevitably continue and once we are all made aware of this through programs and books like yours, we should not be so suprised when it happens.

    Well Done!

  10. SpinstaSista


    Congratulations on a great show last night, unfortunately I missed the previous two. Hopefully I’ll be able to catch them on DVD.

    Avoca Handweavers are so twee – they’re selling a sanitised country lifestyle to Yummy Mummies who would probably faint if they got as much as a speck of mud on their floral wellies. Perhaps Avoca should start selling sterilised mud in a can so that their customers can get a really authentic “country” look without leaving the Pale.

    I agree with Martha that many of Avoca Handwever’s goods, particularly the clothes, are overhyped and overpriced. However, I have to make an exception for their excellent preserves. Some of these preserves used to be made in the basement of a large Georgian house in Tipperary, but when the demand for the preserves grew the process moved into a nearby custom made “jam factory” where the same methods are used.

    Poor old DIY Declan came in for a battering AGAIN! He works all the hours God sends and on top of that commutes to and from the city because he can’t afford to live there. Surely his penchant for DIY is a sign of thrift and isn’t this a good thing? Doesn’t he deserve to chill out with his friends in the garden after all his effort?

    In my opinion the lady living in the Corporation house getting (I’m not sure of the exact figure) €400 per week in benefits wasn’t doing all that badly. If she isn’t working she’s doing extremely well, because lots of women in Celtic Tiger Ireland work in jobs where their take home pay is €400 or less. I’m not that badly off but this lady has certainly made me sit up and think about why I’m working! At the end of the day, is she much worse off than young couples where both partners work and are mortgaged to the hilt? Probably not. She certainly didn’t seem to be stressed out.

    If the American multi-nationals pull out of Ireland there will be nationwide panic and the economic consequences would be very scary. Your programme highlighted two facts – the American multinationals have no loyalty to anything but the balance sheet and that mainland Europeans aren’t really bothered about Ireland. Most of them rent their homes and can’t understand our national obsession with property.

  11. Damien

    Hi David,
    I read and really enjoyed your book but really loved the show…I actually shouted out “BRILLANT” at one point. Congrats – your analysis is spot on. I work for a large US multinational for 15 years it has served me very well…but unlike my colleagues I always been invested in assets (put money in your pocket) rather than liabilities (take money out of your pocket) …after a while you find you can grow wealthy (slowly) financially indepentant and enjoy yourself…a lesson for the country as a whole I think.

    Thanks for articulating to the nation my thoughts!
    Best TV show of ’06 by a street.

  12. Marie

    Congratulations on an excellently presented, scripted and filmed production. I agree with SpinstaSista about the lady in the corporation house, who she said she was doing a FAS course – paid by the state, – it didn’t say whether or not she was working but if she’s not then she’s the genius and I’m a fool. I work a 40 hour week and come out with 450 but I have a mortgage and am paying for a degree at night which costs 3000 a year! Why do I bother?

  13. Ed


    Brilliant show – loved the glossy look – I missed the first two episodes. Your analysis is on the button , but what a roller-coaster ride it‘s been. Our only hope now is to up our skill levels and ride on the backs of the emerging power houses. Easier said than done – Design in Ireland, produce in China and sell globally.
    Houses are only Houses, but product is gold – have we got what it takes?

    Keep up the good work!

  14. Ed


    Forgot – why don’t you do an analytical show on Finland’s success – it’s of a similar size and has little resources other than its ingenuity and hard work – if only we had an icon like Nokia.

  15. sally

    I love you!!!!!!

  16. tim o'toole


    Your show has been an obvious success !!

    Maybe it would be a good idea to finish off the series with a live tv debate (in the style of big bite / Q&A’s) or with one of your “Levithian” dedicated to the ideas & theories behind the show …. Im sure it would be an equal success !!!

  17. Kevin

    Great show David, I really enjoyed the whole series.

    As for the DIY Declans, Low GI Janes, and Yummy Mummy’s, of this world not living outside the commuter belt, is complete and utter rubbish. I think its time for the doubters to look a little bit closer at there locality and maybe even themselves. SUV or BMW in the driveway, shopping trips to New York, holiday home in (Connemara, Kerry or Clare maybe), Skinny Lattes, and Pilates Classes. The Celtic Tiger and the spending boom has hit the whole country not just the population of the Greater Dublin Area.

  18. David, I did;nt see the Show But my Cousin and his wife will be coming over to Boston On a shopping trip(he lives outside the Commuter belt) and he will be bringing me the DVD.s, Well Done!!!!

  19. SpinstaSista

    Marie, I’ve been there, done that and suffered studying for the degree by night while working full time! I did it to broaden my knowledge of my chosen subject, improve my salary prospects and get on the property ladder, but I still have the same job 6 years later despite many job applications and interviews. to add insult to injury, I’m even further away from the property ladder than I was before I started my degree! Several of my former classmates are in the same situation despite the fact that we did our course at a fairly well known Irish university. When we started our degrees shares in Baltimore were at an all time high and graduates were in huge demand, but the value of our education went the same way as Baltimore shares!

    My degree made me realise that the intellectual capital you earn from a college education is a devaluing currency – the job you could “buy” with a primary degree 10 years ago “costs” a masters degree or a Ph.D. today.

    Marie, good luck with the studies.

    David, sorry for going off topic!

  20. “we should not be so suprised when it happens.”

    I, personally, wasn’t in the least surprised when “9/11″ happened and I won’t be in the least surorised when if and when Dublin experiences a “9/11″ attack. Hey, you Irish morons – wake up! Life is not all about spending money you don’t actually have! Stop acting like your stupefied, terrorised and brainwashed CATHOLICISED parents before you and start realising you are potentially HUMAN beings – not mere pawns in some sociopathic game!

  21. fair play 2 ya david, it now looks like the Celtic Tiger is becoming the Septic Tiger?

  22. neil c

    congrats on the series. any dates on the dvd ?

    Just spoke with my sister back from a girls weekend in New York.
    Stayed in a hotel with 70 people from carlow. Mainly women but some lads to carry the shopping.
    package included bus from downtown hotel to a shopping mall an hour upstate.

    The lady in front of my sister checked in *11* suitcases on the return flight to Dublin.

  23. yoyo

    i was over in new york to shop and sight see. i have to say i think the whole shopping thing is a scam, yes they are cheaper, but half the stuff is crap, or all american fashion, and you would have to buy a whole load of cloths to justify any of it. That shopping mall an hour upstate was rubbish. get cloths that are too big or too small or look like an american tourist.

    each person would have to spend a 1000-1500 quid on cloths, just to break even

    dont believe the shopping hype, the city is nice thou

  24. Katrin


    I find your anti-EU and pro-protectionism rhetoric quite dangerous, especially in view of Irish history.

    Besides, I am wondering why you chose to name ‘some guy’ that served as your model of the German saver after one of Germany’s most influential and politically important musicians of the past three decades, Udo Lindenberg. Were you trying to ridicule German culture?

  25. Niall

    Excellent show. Credit is due to Ruan Magan & his team. Always love his “quirky” presentation. He should have a channel of his own!

    P.S Was Udo Lindenberg really so influential??? He was always a source of ridicule for my german “collegen”.

  26. John

    The comments by Spinstasista concerning the woman on the FAS course bear out precisely one of the points made in the programme. The resentment, bordering on hatred, harboured the middle classes of those they perceive as below them is a celtic Tiger phenomenon. This woman is living on half what the airhead paid for her “Gucci” bag.
    Expect to see more of the same when east europeans start to take a slice of the “professional” jobs instead of service and building jobs.

  27. SpinstaSista


    Before you call me a snob take a look at your own attitude towards construction and service jobs! Why should East Europeans take so-called professional jobs when service and construction jobs can be more lucrative? David’s hi-viz jacketed “Breakfast Roll Man” often earns more than pinstripe-suited “DIY Declan”. A white collar occupation is no guarantee of prosperity.

    I do not consider the woman on the FAS course who gets €450 per week to be below or above anybody else. In my opinion class is an outdated label which often does not reflect the real living circumstances of people. Class consciousness in Ireland is not a Celtic Tiger phenomenon, it has always been with us from the days that the priest stood up in the pulpit and called out the dues he received from individual families in his parish.

    In order to take home €450 a week a single person would have to be earning at least €25,000 p.a. before tax. Look at the recruitment section of the papers and you will see that many jobs open to women and recent graduates offer less. I think that it is unfair for one woman to take home €450 per week by working full time and despite her low income, she still has to pay €3,000 pa to study for a degree by night. Meanwhile another woman who may not have been working for years gets €450 into her hand per week for simply doing a FAS course. I have done a degree by night while working full-time and I know the exhaustion and sacrifices it takes. College fees should be abolished for evening students who work full-time in low-paid jobs.

    I am resentful that hard work and effort are not rewarded in this country unless you are working in the black economy. Honesty does not pay in Ireland.

    By the way, I do not own a Gucci or any other designer bag nor am I an airhead.

  28. David Mc Williams

    David here. Thanks so much for all your comments and ideas.

    Just to respond to Katrin, the ideas about Germany were not meant to insult in fact, I’m a Germanophile and have been for years. That goes from screaming for Werner Bremen last night to spending many nights in the Goethe Institute in Fitzwilliam Square trying to master your grammer. I try to visit Germany about once a year to recharge the batteries. So if it appeared insultling that’s the last thing I wanted to do!

    The choice of the name “Udo Lindenberg” did not come from the singer but from the father of a friend in Berlin who has the same name and was sick of drunk mates late at night asking him to sing songs about Eric Hoeneker.

    Without German savers we’d be nothing, all I was trying to do was highlight this relationship which is sometimes overlooked in the Anglo-American hype that goes for economic analysis in this part of the world.

    Niall, you’re right, Ruan and the team made the show, not me. They created the atmosphere, the soundtrack, mood etc they also had to put with me for months – for which they should get miraculous medals!

    SistaSpinsta, Marie and Martha, I think you take on things is spot on. Thanks for your time and comments.

    Neil C – can you give me more details ( on the 70 from Carlow shopping in NYC ’cause this is something I want to write about.

    For all those who asked about the DVD, it will be out on Dec 9th. We had’nt thought about it at the start but the demand has been overwhelming so, thanks again.

    Best Regards,

  29. David


    Great show.

    The three of the most important books that we should all read, apart from your own ofcourse, on the state of politics, environment, society and technology and why it matters to Ireland are:

    Guns, Germs and Steel- Jared Diamond
    The Ecology of Commerce- Paul Hawken
    Fast Food Nation- Eric Schlosser

    I think you touched on some interesting topics in your programme, however, I believe that a vision for the future success of the Irish economy was not apparent. Our dependency on both the EU and the US leaves our imported energy dependent economy in a precarious position… Decoupling from the EU would allow Ireland to engage in progressive policies unencumbered by the EU behemoth…we forged a new path with the smoking ban, let’s be leaders again rather than sheep.

    Good luck with the follow up programme on how we can solve this problem. ;)

  30. John

    At least youre not bitter.

  31. Ed

    David, I agree that it’s now time for vision and not more analysis as this will only lead to paralysis by analysis. Academics love analysis and Economists in particular, for it is essentially their stock in trade. The problem with vision is that it involves risk and most people instinctively have strong aversion to it.

    SpinstaSista and Marie are typical and are looking for security and are equating qualifications with currency – no degree in a Western Market Economy carries a promise to pay the bearer and at the end of the day it only increases the probability of achieving a higher standard of living. A public sector job will give you security, but little opportunity to realise your full potential, while a job in the private sector can be insecure, but can lead to greater things in a relatively short time frame . Again, it’s the luck of the draw – if it’s a hi- tech. company that can command very high returns, like a 900% mark-up, then you’re in clover – it’s all about choice and risk. Those two ladies comparing themselves to the lady on welfare is only an exercise in self pity – they have so much more potential and in time, their lives will be poles apart from hers.
    Every ambitious person should read “ Against the Gods” the amazing story of risk by Peter L. Bernstein.

    The two most important things that Ireland needs now is vision and people that are prepared to take genuine risks – not the property type risks. Only enterprises with a global market can create the necessary jobs into the future. On the job front, we’re now in the comfort zone with the Multinationals – but we’re merely the well paid servants at their party. When you stand back an look at it, it’s a modern version of the old Landlord days, except that we now have a good measure of economic freedom. We are, however, as dependant on the Multinationals as our ancestors were on the Landlords.
    Perhaps the Government should introduce a tax incentive scheme like it did for the Racehorse Industry, but unlike that scheme, put a cap on earnings. Incentive is the best or possibly the only method to boost the indigenous enterprise culture. It would be self regulatory in the sense that competition would weed out the none performers and leave only the stars to shine.
    I personally have been through the mill – had to emigrate in the 60s, study at night, travel long distances to work, worked with multinationals for thirteen years, went in to business, went broke twice, succeeded on the third attempt and built a business with a global market.

  32. David

    I guess the overall concern should be the environment and global warming. The paradigm of non-recyclable, non-reusable, non-organic costing less than the biodegradeable, 100% recyclable and organic product costing more than former does not make sense. If you take into account real costs, the cost to public health and the environment of polluting products then it actually costs the tax payer more to subsidise polluting products. This leads to the point that the ‘vision thing’ should be leadership in social entrepreneurship and environmental stewardship, something we appear to be overlooking in this vibrant economy. Quite simply, we could design products that are actually needed and good for the planet at the same time. We could take a leadership role in this area. The starting point is through our education system, reengineering science and engineering courses to take account of design for the planet rather than design for obsolescence. Think of the opportunities. How about sustainable agriculture, forests etc? How about robust public transport solutions, such as Maglev, criss-crossing the country and bringing all areas of the country into the economic cycle. Some kernels of thought that might stimulate discussion.

    The Iroquois Indians in the US had a famous saying ‘ we must plan for the next seven generations’. That’s the ‘vision thing’ in terms of sustainability. That’s where we need to be.

  33. David


    Second sentence should read:

    The paradigm of non-recyclable, non-organic costing less than the organic, biodegradeable equivalent does not make sense.If you take into account real costs, the cost to public health and the environment of polluting products, then it actually costs the tax payer more to subsidise polluting products. Think about it, you pay for environmental clean up for products that you use, that can never truly be cleaned-up…example most plastic! The company that makes it doesn’t pay to clean it up, the consumer does…We’ve small indentations on this through WEEE and RoHS but we have a long way to go.

    In the end, you can’t really blame the company for making the product, they’re answering the call of consumer demand, however, companies do take an extra step in convincing people that they ‘need’ a product, it’ll make you better, safer, healthier etc. etc. SO why doesn’t the company share the cost of clean up, example, chewing gum…dropped on the ground and hard to clean up, why doesn’t the producer pay for clean up in this example. I guess it begs the question of why do people litter in the first place, but we could around in a circle on that one…but why not a chewing gum that’s more easily degradeable under certain environmental conditions or something to that end.

  34. Shona Godkin

    Absolutely loved the series – thought many valid points made. I do think the irish economy still hasn’t even felt the effects of higher fuel prices on both domestic spending & on Manuf industry costs and these will also hamper the mad spending spree Ireland is on

  35. rickg.pat

    David, Do you know where I can buy bread in the shape of a turtle? I was told it was close to the Avoca store but my cheap foreign import cant find it! I asked the retail boys and they dont know either. Hopefully its within walking distance of Ailesbury Road. I plan to sack that girl before christmas anyway (great saving on holiday pay!!!!). If anyone knows where this shop is can you let me know as Im told it will go nicely with the expensive salad I get in a box everyday. Thanks . rick.g.Pat

  36. David,

    What is all this nonsense about lumping all SUVs together?
    With a growing family, I recently changed my 2 litre car for a 2.2 litre SUV that averages 40mpg. Many cars (including all those driven by Government ministers) have much bigger engines and consume far more fuel.
    This includes Dick Roches 3.5litre Lexus Hybrid which averages 30mpg.
    The debate should not be about SUV v Car but rather about fuel economy and emissions.
    Current government taxation policy does nothing to address this as they seem to be incapable or unwilling to grasp the implications of Kyoto.

  37. Seamus

    It continues to amaze me, that whenever I look for news on the inevitable Irish property collapse, it is only to be found either on David’s website/article in the SBP or the very rare mention in the Irish media. We are now at the point where dec’s rate rise will up the average mortgage by e500 a month! This has happened in a year. Interest rates have not even got going yet, standard variable in Australia is 7.5%. What happens if the Irish standard variable at 4.6% edges just up just one more whole point to 5.6% Every Tom, dick and harry in Ireland will be paying an extra @ e850 extra a month since Nov 05. This should be front page news every day, There is no way Ireland will get a soft landing, this whole theory is spread because the reality of a hard landing sinking in will only speed up its inevitable arrival. I really feel for the young couple who have spent e450,000 on a small two bed apartment in Dublin. Interest payments for year one – e20,700, term of loan 35 years, size of apartment – TINY. People will tell them they got a bargain, try telling them that in Dec 07.

  38. David

    Ireland still chooses to be a laggard on all things environmental to our detriment. Whether you drive an SUV or a 4-cylinder, the net result is that the environmental carbon footprint is bad and according to recent reports, getting worse.

    In 2003, the human population used 125 per cent of the Earth’s output. That means that it takes our planet a year and three months to generate what we used in just one year. This has been the trend since the 1980s, according to a recent World Wildlife Fund report. “People are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.” The problem is that populations are growing, and so is industry, at a rate too fast for the biosphere’s organic growth to keep up with. If nothing changes, by 2050 our demands will require two Earths worth of resources to be sustainable.

    So let’s park the SUV argument and housing and think bigger….. We need to get serious in Ireland about redesigning our systems to be sustainable, renewable, recyleable. There is a reasonable but arduous way of rebalancing the equation here, quite simply a consumption tax. You pay for what you use. One proposal would be to scrap income tax and apply a ‘Green’ tax.

    Why- it’s more efficient. It’s a productive tax as both consumers and producers would pay and innovation would be an added benefit. Producers would seek out alternative energy and biodegradeable material because the non-renewable resources would be too expensive long term…….

    I think the Japanese are on to something. They innovate during downturns, forced to do so because they’re raw material inport dependent economy is continually pressured to do things better, faster and more efficiently. We are not unlike Japan in terms of the overall energy equation- An island nation, heavily dependent on foreign energy and raw materials. Yet, Japan will always manage expansionary and contraction cyles better than anyone. They continually outpace every other nation in terms of innovation. We could be a leader in Europe, it’s not like we don’t have smart people, right?

    Couldn’t we just think longer term. Think about the next seven generations of people to come after us and what they will think when we waste their future by exploiting non-renewable resources. It’s not a National Development Plan that we need, it’s a Millennium Plan.

  39. David

    (In 2003, the human population used 125 per cent of the Earth’s output. That means that it takes our planet a year and three months to generate what we used in just one year. This has been the trend since the 1980s, according to a recent World Wildlife Fund report. “People are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.” The problem is that populations are growing, and so is industry, at a rate too fast for the biosphere’s organic growth to keep up with. If nothing changes, by 2050 our demands will require two Earths worth of resources to be sustainable.)

    (Note: From WWF report 2006 and ‘Humans are devouring the planet’- Brian Jackson, 2006)

  40. Ray

    Great job on the whole series. Loved the book, and will remain a stronger avorite than the tv series, but a great show nonetheless.
    Just a brief point, on the second show you joined the now infamous buyers trip to Bulgaria, and in this pointed out, with the help of the scottish man you met, that the local area was still relatively third world, and none of the locals could every aspire to own, let alone rent, one of these luxury apartments. A very interesting point well made. Maybe you could advise your ill advised presenters on the “Overseas Property Show” that their rhertoric on new properties abroad is available at any sales agents peddling these false dreams and that were the show to display the real world around these “luxury duplex apartments with full 24 hr……” that it would be of better help and make for better viewing, or even a spin off show for yourself.
    Many thanks for your series and articles.

  41. David J.

    As an FYI, in some of the commentary above the notes are not David Mc Williams so I have changed the name to David J. going forward. Sorry for any confusion.

  42. Dear David,
    I am a second level business teacher. I found your programme very interesting. I would love to use the resource – The Pope’s Children in my classes. Will there be a dvd available? Well done, keep it up.

  43. Hi
    Maybe, this is not the best way to reach David,but i found it as possibility to contact.
    I am TV journalist,and I would like to interview David. Is it possible to send me any contact tel.number or e-mail
    where i could give more details about my visit to Ireland. It should happen from 12th February.
    Thanx in advance

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